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to think that DW could do ever such a little bit more around the house?

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Triathlete · 28/04/2008 22:12

I know how hard it is to look after an infant all day, and I'm really glad that I was able to take paternity leave and help in those early weeks.

And I'm happy to take over fully when I get in from work - bathe, feed and put DS (6.5 months) to bed, cook for us, wash up, make her a cup of tea and let her put her feet up.

And DW does do stuff in the house, but only what suits her and what she likes. She makes a great deal out of "tidying your wardrobe" for instance, but I've never asked her to do it.

The one thing that I would like her to do is the vacuuming. We have a dusty house - allotment, garden, walks in the country and so on. When I was living alone I did it in the morning before going to work. It's only a small house - ten minutes doing one room every day and every room gets done at least once a week, and the place is cleaner, fresher and healthier.

The other week I worked hard on a friend's car in exchange for the loan of an industrial carpet cleaner, then I spent Saturday cleaning all the carpets - they came up beautifully.

But she won't vacuum. And I refuse to do it at the weekend - I cook, iron cothes, clean windows, bake bread and fix the car, but I won't vacuum. If I start to do it again, it'll be at 7am before I go to work. She can deal with the woken up baby then.

And then today, when I had to go straight out again to the supermarket after getting back from work, I asked her whether there was anything ready to eat. "No, I couldn't think of anything". Well honestly, boiling 4 potatoes won't win any prizes, but it would have been more than acceptable to a hungry, tired husband with a busy week ahead. What makes it worse is that she was on the fricking internet when I came in.

I'm pissed off.

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alfiesbabe · 30/04/2008 22:36

Sounds like the OP has a bit of a vacuuming fetish. Carpets don't need to be vacuumed that often you know .. a bit of dust won't do any harm. However, in other respects, your wife is totally taking the piss. For you to be the sole earner, then have to do the shopping, cook the dinner, do the ironing etc... she's having a laugh!! Looking after a 6 month old is piss easy compared to what you're doing. I was on maternity leave for 6 months with a newborn and 2 pre schoolers, breasfeeding night and day and still managed to do the shopping, cook dinner and do a bit of cleaning. Tell the lazy bint to pull her weight or go get a job!

Elasticwoman · 01/05/2008 07:41

Maybe your dp works full time, Tinierclanger. On the days that I am out all day, I am also teaching at home in the evening so have no time to make a meal for 5. I know some adults like to eat later, but we all eat together if at all possible - more sociable, more economical and prevents cooking/clearing up all evening.

People have different preferences, of course, but the OP has indicated he wants dinner when he gets in after a day out at work and I think that's perfectly reasonable.

tinierclanger · 01/05/2008 10:38

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, Elasticwoman . I still think dinner is a mutually agreed thing, rather than to be issued at someone else's request, just because they're chief breadwinner.

On the whole, I think OP sounds more grumpy than anything else. If you look at the list of stuff he does, it's not actually that big a deal. I don't, for instance, see cleaning the kitchen or bathroom in there. I'm guessing actually their efforts are not that discrepant, it's just a question of priorities.

Also, in real life, probably one person ALWAYS does a bit more than the other - I bet it's never totally evenly balanced. But if there's something you really care about, like the dusty floors, I guess you either need to discuss it, do a deal, or do it yourself. Or find a partner with the same standards as yourself.

themildmanneredjanitor · 01/05/2008 17:17

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MrsMattie · 01/05/2008 17:19

Is this still going on? I wonder if OP's wife has shoved the hoover up his jacksy yet?

podsquash · 01/05/2008 20:05

My two pence worth is to get a cleaner for 2 hours a week if you can afford it at all! I have no idea whether you are being unreasonable and you need to sort it out with her. But life with a small baby puts enough stress on your relationship without getting your boxers in a twist about the hoovering (or whatever) and letting it escalate. It took me ages to adjust to the change in housework required with kids, esp once they are on solids and make way more mess. I used to work outside the home and a traditional role comes as a shock to the system - pushes lots of buttons with a lot of women in a way that it just doesn't with men. So get a cleaner for 6 months to do other things, get a hippychick hipseat so she can hold the baby while she hoovers on the other days and argue about it later when sleep settles down, you've all had a chance to adjust etc. Good luck.

Quattrocento · 01/05/2008 20:10

When I was on mat leave I used to keep the house sparkling and have massive and complicated meals ready for my DH as soon as he came through the door

This is of course because I was bored

Of course she could do the cleaning it is nonsense to say that she has too much to do or can't find time

But the fact is that she doesn't want to

And that's a much harder issue to reconcile

My DH and I had slightly different standards in respect of cleanliness and tidiness

We only came to terms with one another when we got a cleaner

So that's my suggestion

Thankyouandgoodnight · 02/05/2008 06:32

Are you actually the DW who is now trying to get an honest opinion on whether you should do more??

Elasticwoman · 02/05/2008 17:12

We can agree Tinierclanger, that dinner should be a mutually agreed thing. The OP does not agree to late dinner, so in his situation it is not mutually agreed.

Agreed?

Thankyouandgoodnight · 02/05/2008 19:08

I do think that if it was a new mum posting about not getting to the hoovering, then all replies would be to not worry about the housework and cooking etc and just do what you can and not worry about having a sparkly house......?

loobrush · 02/05/2008 19:13

..and you do triathlons as well as all that...?

ivykaty44 · 02/05/2008 19:28

Oh goodness and I have hoovered twice since Christmas.... to be honest my carpets don't look that bad.

I will add the kitchen and bathroom are clean and the house is very tidy - I just hate hoovering

I have been out probably 10 times with my 9 year old dd for bike rides though which we both enjoy.

Toss up between the two and I would go out on my bike with my dd rather than hoover.

Spent time with your children when they are there - when they grow up and leave home the dust will still be there.

mybabysinthegarden · 03/05/2008 13:56

Where is he!? [stamps foot] I need him to come back here so I can explain to him how his marital difficulties might be stemming from the fact that he is gay.

Triathlete · 24/05/2008 22:15

Cor! 11 pages. I never expected that!

baby in the garden, that's really funny! Thank you.

I'm not a woman, namechanger, journo or troll. And DW doesn't use mumsnet, so I wasn't trying to get my point across sneakily. I should also call myself EX-triathlete now. And I simply haven't had time to join back in this conversation, sorry for the bad form.

DW is lazy. When she's honest, she'll admit it. She's an only child and she never had to do anything around the house. Lived with her parents until we married, except for a short time with a REAL chauvinist.

I am the oldest of three, and was ironing my own shirts at 13 years old. My mother trained us all in cooking, cleaning and housework and the three of us married women who can't believe their luck. They all think my mum is great (and she is!)

The allotment is her idea. I spent enough of my childhood growing veg and looking after goats and chickens, and ducks, turkeys and pheasants, thanks. However, although it's her idea, I do most of the heavy work. Today I asked her whether she could strim the weeds - "I'm really tired, I want to rest". So I'll have to do that next weekend after I get back from my business trip.

I do most of the cooking. At the end of the weekend, my feet hurt - cooking, cleaning, chores, repairs, playing with DS to give her a break. I'm usually shagged on Sunday evening. And the vacuuming IS important - I used to use a push-along carpet cleaner until I got a chest infection caused by dirty carpets. And I cleaned the carpets with the professional steam cleaner because DW asked me to. And I traded the work because we couldn't afford to hire one. But she won't vacuum them subsequently. We absolutely can't afford a cleaner.

I make bread and carrot cake because DW asks me to. She think carrot cake is a staple food. She knows where the recipe is but won't make it herself.

DS is easy to look after. He sleeps all night - 7pm til 8am. He's a good-natured baby. However, I KNOW how difficult it is to look after babies - I was around plenty when I was growing up, helping look after them, feed them and entertain them. Some of those babies and children had learning difficulties. So I know what it's like, and DS is easy.

All the above info on my childhood can probably be explained by saying that I grew up in rural organic goodlife Ireland.

I go to work at 7am and don't get back until 7pm. I don't expect dinner on the table every night, but when I have to go straight back out again to go shopping, it would be nice to be able to eat something quickly.

When we both worked it wasn't an issue, because I'd do it in the morning as usual. Now that she's at home, and it's something that needs to be done frequently, it seems unfair to me that I should have to do it at the weekends, especially when there are so many other jobs that apparently only I can do, such as putting shelves up, digging the allotment and strimming the weeds.

To be honest, the relationship is going from bad to worse. Every weekend starts with an argument, DW will never apologise, or look for a solution together, or stop and step back. Everything is zero-sum, win-lose. I use a different model of conflict resolution, but there's no longer an incentive to, as it depends on both people. She's becoming more and more sullen, and I don't know how much longer we can last. I'm thinking of giving relate a call.

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MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 24/05/2008 22:26

wow, you sure took your time to reply.

I linked to an article about resentment, something which seems to be winding it's way between the two of you. I'll link when i find it. I am sorry it's gotten so bad at home.

no1putsbabyinthecorner · 24/05/2008 22:27

I think your wife sounds a bit lazy.
Like you my Dh does most things around the house. I m not saying I dont do anything but if I do my dh goes over it again anyway.
I do the ironing though (I know he doesnt like it)
I am a bit lazy sometimes, but more of a do it tomorow rather than today.
Dh says why do it tomorow when you can do it today and get it out of the way.

saffy202 · 24/05/2008 22:37

Can you get a chest infection from dirty carpets??

blueshoes · 24/05/2008 22:44

Triathlete, it sounds like you are shouldering the burden for the whole family, including your DW who should be pulling her own weight a lot more. She does not seem to have much energy or drive. at ds being easy.

I think it is sad for something like this to drive a wedge between you two. But yes, do seek counselling. Your DW needs to understand how you feel about this.

megcleary · 24/05/2008 22:45

i think you need to have one of those clear the air conversations and be honest try not to hold grudges and let it all out see what happens

KnickersOnMaHead · 24/05/2008 22:45

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posieparker · 24/05/2008 22:48

Your DW sounds like me, not though!!, and I have even considered getting a psychotherapist because I'm so lazy! Instead have a cleaner twice a week. Perhaps you need to sit down and work out what you both think is reasonable.

alittleone2 · 24/05/2008 22:49

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UniversallyChallenged · 24/05/2008 22:53

does your wife secretly use MN and go by the nickname "johnso"?

sorry, cant link the thread - never works out when i try!

KatyH · 24/05/2008 23:06

Hey, you're shagged on a Sunday evening...what are you complaining about?!

TinkerbellesMum · 24/05/2008 23:18

DS is easy to look after. He sleeps all night - 7pm til 8am. He's a good-natured baby.

Describes Tink, however she is still hard because of that. She needs a lot of stimulation and company, so much so that I can't go to the toilet without having a conversation sitting on the loo. I don't get much done but this is how we fit it all in:

Washing up after I've eaten breakfast and she's finishing hers.
Washing during the day, Tink helps!
Cooking with Tink in her highchair, have to do food that doesn't need me to be at the cooker too long.
Toys when she's gone to bed.
Vaccing on a Thursday when someone else has her.
Living room and kitchen blitz on a weekend when TD is home.

TD works in London (we live in Birmingham) at the moment so I have to do it all during the week or nothing gets done. It's not easy because I am still suffering from PND.

It sounds to me like there is more going on with you two and you probably need to address that before you sort out the symptoms. I also don't think you realise how hard it can be to look after a child. My brother has Aspergers (as do most eldest sons in my family) and I know how hard that was on Mum, but I don't think I could have realised fully how hard it was because I'm worn out with an "easy" baby!