Call a General Election? Really?

[Veryoldandtired]

I mean, I very much doubt this will get anywhere in the parliament but nearly 2 mil people signed it in just over 24 hours 😬

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

Do you want my opinion if I was the person in charge of this country? I wouldn’t give a shit because I know that it’s been made by a lot of people who wouldn’t even vote for me in a month of Sundays anyway.

Laughing at all the posters demanding you cannot see who has signed the petition, despite the link being on the petition page itself.

A link that includes this little gem:"Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer MP","signature_count":1550}
If it were written on paper, that petition wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on 😂

They've known about that for ages. That's why petitions are mostly ignored.

its totally insecure and highlights how out of date UK Govt IT is.

Hardly! I'm quite sure the UK government are well aware of its limitations. They simply don't care. It isn't designed to have any meaningful influence on policy. It's designed to be an outlet for the masses to think they are communicating their dissatisfaction. But it's just a smokescreen. The frothing-at-the-mouth brigade are busy thinking they're being clever by signing more than once and pulling the wool over the eyes of the government whilst the business of government can go on undisturbed. It's not the government who are being naïve in this situation!

but what has changed between now and then? not much

so the best thing to do is try to effect change by the regular democratic process: contact your MP, go through your local council, hold the government to account and ensure they stick to manifesto commitments.

To be fair, it doesn't name the petitioners, that entry is the number of people in Starmer's constituency who have (allegedly) signed. Less than 2%! If he is that unpopular, one would have expected far more?

Its cheap and simple to secure a website, that the Govt or whoever is hosting don't do this, is farcical, especially, as you say, they know about it, genuine email addresses are on this site too.

We've already had major security breaches in NHS, DVLC Border control.

What else is hooked up to these website without basic security?

I think you re being v blasé about this.

I disagree. 100s of 1000s of people genuinely do believe their petition will result in a new General Election! 😆 The rantings and ravings from some people (about Labour/Starmer) on Twitter is quite funny to watch. Some posters on there are obsessed. They post 20+ tweets a day about Starmer and Labour, and how 'horrific' and 'stupid' he is, and how 'dreadful' Labour are.

As has been said, it's a democracy, and Labour won. Yeah only around 38% of people who are eligible to vote actually voted for them. But only around 64% of people eligible to vote actually bothered to vote. So they still got votes from around 60% of all the people who actually voted.

No-one gets to complain about ANY Government if they CBA to vote!

Anyway if we DID have another General Election, who should we vote in? The Conservatives who hate the disabled and the poor, and who did everything possible to wreck the NHS, and who tripled University fees? Reform? With Nigel Farage as PM? A far right, misogynistic, racist, party that will take us back into the middle of the last century? Lib Dems or Greens - the far left???

Who should it be?!

As I said, whoever it is, SOMEONE will whinge and complain at the things they do.

While I agree it's a silly petition which may well have some bot 'signatures',
I'm afraid your 'gem' is merely a tally of how many have signed in his constituency.

Please don't use paddy to mean tantrum. I know you're probably unaware but it's an anti Irish slur. Thanks :)

Call a General Election? And vote for who? There's no winners anymore.

To be fair, it doesn't name the petitioners, that entry is the number of people in Starmer's constituency who have (allegedly) signed. Less than 2%! If he is that unpopular, one would have expected far more?

They are a minority, because the signatories are coming from dissaffected red wall areas, coastal areas, farming areas. If we are generous and accept that the majority of signatories are real, then the problem still remains that labours main support is concentrated in liberal left cities, London, Oxford, Cambridge, etc etc Zooming into the map is enlightening.

the problem still remains that labours main support is concentrated in liberal left cities, London, Oxford, Cambridge

Um, what about Scotland and Wales?

I actually didn't know that

I figured :)

As I keep telling these right-wing people on Twitter, I had to put up with 14 f years of the conservative government I have never ever voted conservative, but that's what we got.
And we could go on about percentages to the month of Sundays.

I came on to say exactly this.

I don't think it's embarrassing......I think it is people saying that they are v unhappy with how farmers and pensioners re heating allowance have been treated.

I don't think for one sec a general election will take place...just people are v frustrated.....as they were also with the tories

A bit for Starmer / Labour. They must have the fastest turnaround from a pre GE lead

I think it's embarrassing for those who have signed it. Labour have only been in five minutes, they need to be given a chance.

Petitioning already for another GE just shows people don't understand how the democratic process works in the UK. I think that's embarrassing.

ETA - I would also think a petition for another presidential election in the US would be embarrassing, even though I was very unhappy with the result. That's how it goes sometimes.

Absolutely. But then again, bots have no sense of shame!

I want a Govt that makes a decision (even if it’s a difficult one), and sticks to it … despite the Daily Mail wetting its pants. We had years of Populism, and where did that get us ???

It's not pointless - if it took you an hour of your life to sign then it'd be a waste of time. But it is a simple and effective way of expressing dissatisfaction at the first 4 months of Labour in power.
Although if you are one of the people who has been given a large pay rise and not affected by the inflation that's going to hit the fan then good for you.

There are other petitions available. Maybe you should put one forward to stop these 'pointless' petitions?
petition.parliament.uk/

I think it's embarrassing for those who have signed it. Labour have only been in five minutes, they need to be given a chance.

People are already feeling it, pensioners, farmers, businesses. It might be different if you're public sector or reliant on the state, I can see why they'd still be pro Labour. Plus economic indicators have dropped which is the main issue for them.

Petitioning already for another GE just shows people don't understand how the democratic process works in the UK. I think that's embarrassing.

Petitions are always part of our democracy.

Taking a step back from any actual policies, we surely understand that making change at the national level is like turning an oil tanker. There's no magic wand to wave to instantly improve things for everyone.

Any new government needs to be given time, especially if they've been elected on a platform of change.