Call a General Election? Really?

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I mean, I very much doubt this will get anywhere in the parliament but nearly 2 mil people signed it in just over 24 hours 😬

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

A mixture of both perhaps!

It's a fast turnaround for a new gov, losing the lead so quickly

To a petition

Not great for Labour, although they'll trundle on. It'll be interesting to see in a year what's going on with public spending

Most people
I know think they're doing a grand old job 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP, was there a reason you linked to the petition?

Labour can't fix all the problems the Tories caused over the last 14 years. Even the old idea that the Conservatives are good with the economy turned out to be a lie.

We have broken public services and a big deficit. No magic wand will fix it. I'm getting impacted by the VAT policy and that's ok with me. I'd rather have that than the Tory plan to keep blaming disabled people and punishing them.

No there isn’t, well there is only if you listen to the drivel spewed forth from the likes of Farage, Geebeebies etc.

Fortunately the vast majority of the country aren’t that daft, and appreciate that any meaningful improvement to the state of the country will take a fair time, effort and money. Certainly not a few months.

I doubt Putin will de-stabilise western democracy through the medium of an orderly British petition.

Same. They’re doing what they can to fix 14 years of the terrible tories who got worse and worse. They’re not perfect for sure but definitely better than who they took over from.

He's not doing badly in the States.

Most people* I know think they're doing a grand old job*

What kind of jobs do they have? Is it more public sector?

It’s pathetic isn’t it. And really disappointing to see so many people hoodwinked by Musk and Russia. Demoralising.

Who would the people signing this petition want to win? The Tories? Farage’s lot? Or some mythical new party formed entirely of properly competent people?

The petition site itself has the data on where signatures are coming from.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143.json

I think people just want Labour to stop causing harm

With a British petition?

Destabilising Western democracy.

So they’re too thick to have the vote, then, if they haven’t thought through what the result might be.

But that wasn't what the PP you quoted said. Entirely different context.

It's a bit bonkers isn't it? I mean I'm not keen on some of the things Labour are doing - cancelling winter fuel allowance for anyone on an income of £12,000 per year or more (should have been around £30,000 IMO. And the tax on farms if it's worth more than £1 million.

But insisting we have another General Election is farcical. They've only been in 4 months! I've seen a few people on Twitter/X banging on about it - right wing people - saying 'get Labour out/Starmer is a twat etc,' but the Conservatives weren't any better. They robbed the disabled and the poor, and almost destroyed the NHS. (I do feel for the farmers though, and I don't agree with what they're doing there.)

Starmer said (some months back) 'decisions are going to be made that are not going to be popular.'

No Government is ever going to be without criticism, and every Government is going to do things that piss some people off.

As the old saying goes 'you can't please all of the people all of the time.'

True dat!

I think most people realise that the UK is in a dire state, now you can make excuses for that, Brexit/Covid and Ukraine but that doesn't alter the economics.

the root cause of why some taxes have gone up is due to Jeremy Hunt cutting NI by 4% and not budgeting for public sector pay rises... he left it to the next Govt to sort out.
Then there was the PO and Blood compensation pay outs, all not budgeted for.

If you disagree with that, please explain where the OBR's est of £10billion per year, on going, tax take reduction was going to come from?

Thats £50billion over the the parliamentary term.

CBI now bitching about NI, ok so where does that £7 billion now come from? or what would you cut?

I note the CBI never called for business to pass on savings made to the consumer, after the extension of capital investment relief in Nov 2023.... its all one way.

Plenty of peeps voted labour in for change. Give them a chance to scratch the surface of the mess they took on and start repairing it.
I wonder how many labour voters are now regreting their vote and possibly signing this petition?
Get over it, it's here and we have to get on with it the best we can.
Fwiw I don't vote because none of the parties speak for me and I have no faith in any politician to do the right thing as they all seem to think about themselves.

So they’re too thick to have the vote, then, if they haven’t thought through what the result might be.

What are you referring to? Labour voters who now wouldn't vote for them?

I voted Labour and don’t regret it. Yes, the next few years are going to be difficult, I think we all knew that, if we want public services repaired we have to pay for it and it’s not going to happen overnight.

Cheshire 100% agree it will take time.

On Twitter do regular labour voters follow far right groups because it has been retweeted by many far right types. Then reform have mentioned it loads and people that follow them systematically I don’t believe it really is from labour voters I think it’s coming from the far right who ever since July have really tried to stop labour and trying to overthrow what they do because they think they can do that if they have little paddies and stamp their feet.

Nobody honestly thinks there will be another GE so soon - nor should there be. But it is a simple way of people expressing their fury/frustration with the Government, who would do well to take some notice.