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Daughter getting fat in school

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joey197860 · 24/11/2024 07:49

Teenage daughter has gained 22kg in new boarding school. No medical explanation for it and she's very happy, wrll integrated and academically excelling. School has a shop on site and girls have access to kitchen in the evenings. Daughter had major surgery last year and specifically should not eat sugar loaded food. What am I to do? I want to pull her from the school at the end of this term. The school is absolutely no help when I discussed this with them.

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Mrsredlipstick · 24/11/2024 10:16

Prep schools include year 7 & 8 so the girls join at 13 although most girls only schools encourage entry at 11.

LawyerMumAsia · 24/11/2024 10:16

I haven’t read the full thread. I say this kindly but if you have the finances for boarding school then you have the finances to engage a private doctor to come and visit her fortnightly and put her on a diet plan. If you’re far away from her you need to have someone close by who can monitor this situation. If she isn’t happy to have gained this weight she obviously needs some help. Best of luck

Becauseurworthit · 24/11/2024 10:16

BarbaraHoward · 24/11/2024 10:07

Boarding since prep school is quite the thing though. I'm struggling to think of any reasons for that.

It is the kids in from Prep that are most likely to have 'needs must' reasons for being there. Thinking back to my day... Missionary Kids, Army Kids, Divorce, Parental Critical Illness, Living in the most remote far flung place and having no access to other children or anything aside from home schooling when both parents needed to work full time, both parents very demanding jobs with great deal of travel so less disruptive for kids etc etc.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 10:17

Amanitacae · 24/11/2024 10:12

This is a choice you’ve made by sending your child to boarding school though OP. Other people’s rules about your child’s health and welfare now affect her life much more than anything you can implement.

Not if it’s medical.

mjf981 · 24/11/2024 10:18

Where was the tumour? Brain?
I'd be worried that the tumour or surgery has affected her appetite (look up satiety centre). Definitely investigate this.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 10:18

LawyerMumAsia · 24/11/2024 10:16

I haven’t read the full thread. I say this kindly but if you have the finances for boarding school then you have the finances to engage a private doctor to come and visit her fortnightly and put her on a diet plan. If you’re far away from her you need to have someone close by who can monitor this situation. If she isn’t happy to have gained this weight she obviously needs some help. Best of luck

RTFT. There are recent relevant medical issues here which OP is investigating.

BarbaraHoward · 24/11/2024 10:19

Becauseurworthit · 24/11/2024 10:16

It is the kids in from Prep that are most likely to have 'needs must' reasons for being there. Thinking back to my day... Missionary Kids, Army Kids, Divorce, Parental Critical Illness, Living in the most remote far flung place and having no access to other children or anything aside from home schooling when both parents needed to work full time, both parents very demanding jobs with great deal of travel so less disruptive for kids etc etc.

Parental illness is the only one that counts as a need though, surely. Any of the others you'd make changes to be home with your young DC, surely.

FinallyHere · 24/11/2024 10:20

the kitchen should be closed at night.

only explanation is free access to rubbish edibles.

If only it were that simple.

I admit I started putting on weight at boarding school exactly because my mother had been unobtrusively careful about what I ate while I was under her control. School was much less controlled so I carried on in the way I had learned at home, that I could eat whenever food was available.

It took me a very long time to learn to control my appetite myself. I discovered that eating some things satiate my appetite, so I stop eating. Eating other things has the opposite effect, making me want to eat more and more of them

Gillian Riley's approach was very helpful for me in realising how my body works. It still took me some time to really understand.

https://www.eatinglessonline.comm//

It's no exaggeration to say this has been a big part of my life. As a teenager and early twenties I could do more exercise to cancel out over eating. Your daughter's school probably had plenty of things to do once she accepts that she has been over eating.

The approach Gillian Riley advocates is the one that has really worked for me alongside MN's on low carb bootcamp.

Maria1979 · 24/11/2024 10:21

Wheresthekitten · 24/11/2024 08:47

Why are you boarding her?

This! I don't understand sending children away to boarding school unless you are having major health problems and there is no other solutions. Even less why OP who says she can send her to day school chooses this option AFTER her daughter having removed tumours. Why have children in the first place if the goal is to get rid of them before they are ready for it? And saying your daughter is not "that type of girl" , she doesn't even live with you so how would you know ?

Shoopstoop · 24/11/2024 10:21

Kids shouldn’t have constant access to junk! I doubt there are many private homes where that flies.

EdithBond · 24/11/2024 10:21

You don’t say exactly how old your daughter is. But even if she’s 13, she’s now a young adult. IMHO the most important lesson for parents of teenagers is to change their approach and tone, so they no longer treat or speak to their DC like a child.

Think how you’d like to be spoken to by a family member or good friend if you’d gained a lot of weight? Would you want them to mention it to you, even out of concern? If so, how would you like them to broach it? There’s no easy way to remark on someone’s weight gain without making them feel conscious of it and possibly ashamed. Lots of young women develop unhealthy relationships with food and eating disorders following puberty. It’s so important to be sensitive and not make her feel worse.

I agree it’s a good idea to rule out a medical problem. But you need to be so delicate about it. If her weight gain is due to binge eating, she could feel very ashamed if you ‘take’ her to the GP asking for medical explanations. I’d be led by her on this and how worried she seems about the weight. Say things like: ‘If you’re worried you’ve gained weight, perhaps you should go to the doctor in case it’s because of your operation. Would you like me to make an appointment?’.

You say she’s ’not that kind of girl’. But who’s her biggest influence? The people she spends most time with. It can be hard enough for young women to deal with peer pressure and influence at school and online, even when living at home with their family to counterbalance what they’re hearing. If they’re not living at home, they’re only hearing the attitudes of the other young women at the school. Even if they’re not judging, teasing or bullying her, their attitudes may be rubbing off. If they’re obsessed by weight and eating (as many young women are), it may have made her obsessed and triggered binge eating.

This may be why the school is taking the approach it is, as it may be best practice not to remark on young women’s weight. I wouldn’t dwell on it either. I’d just keep focussing on all the positives about your daughter, showing her lots of love and keep instilling healthy eating and exercise at home. Young women’s weight can fluctuate a lot in their teenage years. It used to be called (awful term) ‘puppy fat’. They often grow out of it.

And don’t expect her to confide in you if she’s unhappy, being bullied or even having sex. Most teenagers don’t share too much with their parents. It’s hard as a parent that they have their own life. But you just have to keep being there in a loving, non-judgemental way and provide lots of opportunities for them to talk if they want to.

Lemonadeand · 24/11/2024 10:23

I’ve taught at boarding schools and seen this happen with teenage girls, with parents ringing to ask why their daughter has out on a stone in a term.

It’s lifestyle change, mostly. So in this instance a girl had gone from cycling to school everyday to a life where everything was on site: she lived on site and went to school where she lived. Although there was loads of sport and exercise options available after school and at weekends, she wasn’t interested in taking them up and nobody was “making” her (whereas parents might insist there child attends swimming class etc).

Also, there was cake every day after school and dessert every day after dinner, whereas this wasn’t something she was used to at home. Finally puberty, hormones etc.

I should add, this was at the lower end of UK boarding schools and in my opinion not great.

At the end of the day, this school quite literally isn’t a healthy environment for your child and she is learning habits that will shape her whole life, so if school aren’t going to help her make changes then yes remove her.

southpawsofthenorth · 24/11/2024 10:24

Not sure how pulling her from school will stop her eating crap if that’s the problem 🤷‍♀️

soupfiend · 24/11/2024 10:26

Lemonadeand · 24/11/2024 10:23

I’ve taught at boarding schools and seen this happen with teenage girls, with parents ringing to ask why their daughter has out on a stone in a term.

It’s lifestyle change, mostly. So in this instance a girl had gone from cycling to school everyday to a life where everything was on site: she lived on site and went to school where she lived. Although there was loads of sport and exercise options available after school and at weekends, she wasn’t interested in taking them up and nobody was “making” her (whereas parents might insist there child attends swimming class etc).

Also, there was cake every day after school and dessert every day after dinner, whereas this wasn’t something she was used to at home. Finally puberty, hormones etc.

I should add, this was at the lower end of UK boarding schools and in my opinion not great.

At the end of the day, this school quite literally isn’t a healthy environment for your child and she is learning habits that will shape her whole life, so if school aren’t going to help her make changes then yes remove her.

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Yes thinking back to when I started to drive in my early 30s, I was overweight already but had to walk everywhere/public transport and had a job that involved working in a large county with client visits all day long, back to the office, back out again. Didnt have a clue just how much this was compensating for my vast appetite.

I put on 3 stone in 3 months after I got that bloody car!

80s · 24/11/2024 10:26

I'd be careful about knowing "what sort of girl" she is. It implies that if she is not "that sort of girl", you won't be happy about it. So if she does anything that doesn't fit into your idea of what sort of girl she is, she will try to hide it from you. That will not be good for her self-esteem (she will feel ashamed of her behaviour) and it will mean that any difficult situations (medical, psychological, practical - bad marks, etc.) will come to light only when things reach a crisis point.

Becauseurworthit · 24/11/2024 10:27

BarbaraHoward · 24/11/2024 10:19

Parental illness is the only one that counts as a need though, surely. Any of the others you'd make changes to be home with your young DC, surely.

Sometimes career, finances, location of home & business don't give the luxury of choice. And yes, people who can afford boarding can be as hamstrung as anyone anyone else when it comes to childcare.

Who knows what the situation is here, but the attitude that it is always the worst decision in the world is not true.

And no, I do not send my own kids to boarding school, but if I was in a position where it made sense, I would not be adverse to it, nor would I automatically think less of anyone else who did.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 10:28

RabbitsEatPancakes · 24/11/2024 08:17

Oh you're in Dubai?

Massive obesity issue there with kids. All my clients from there have fat children, constantly eating/ drinking sugary crap.

Location completely changes things.

l don't think OP is in Dubai. She said I can assure you all, boarding schools are like 7 Star hotels in Dubai these days. Then goes on to say The problem is there is too much acceptance in the UK of obesity and like it is affecting democracy and a child's rights if they are not given free access to whatever they want. I think she was just making a comparison to show that the school food is of a good standard.

swipeup81 · 24/11/2024 10:31

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LoquaciousPineapple · 24/11/2024 10:31

I think it's very telling that OP has ignored every question about whether the daughter was underweight to start with and is now a healthier weight. Yes, gaining 3.5 stone in such a short time is potentially concerning, but if she was underweight before then it's no surprise the school aren't super concerned. At my height (5ft 5), there's 2st10 between the very bottom and top of the healthy BMI bracket.

But the obvious thing is that OP has a teenage daughter who had a tumour removed in the past few months, and she has to ask whether she should take her to the GP when the girl's body shows drastic changes shortly after? I hope OP's daughter is at a high academic boarding school, as she's clearly not inheriting much common sense from her parent.

NC10125 · 24/11/2024 10:32

As a teenager with fast unexpected weight gain you do also need to encourage her to do a pregnancy test.

This is no sort of judgement on your daughter or your parenting. Almost everyone develops sexual feelings in teenage years, and it only takes one slip. But the earlier you find out / rule this out the better.

semideponent · 24/11/2024 10:33

How frightening for her to have surgery,

What troubles me about your post is how little curiosity you have about your daughter's internal state of mind and wellbeing. "Excess" signals deprivation somewhere.

Yes, there is a behavioural level as well, of course, and I'm surprised to hear the school doesn't have a wellbeing strategy in place.

Please treasure and love her...we all need this.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 10:34

Maria1979 · 24/11/2024 10:21

This! I don't understand sending children away to boarding school unless you are having major health problems and there is no other solutions. Even less why OP who says she can send her to day school chooses this option AFTER her daughter having removed tumours. Why have children in the first place if the goal is to get rid of them before they are ready for it? And saying your daughter is not "that type of girl" , she doesn't even live with you so how would you know ?

Many reasons why boarding school would be a choice. And her daughter was already at boarding school when she had the surgery. It also sounds very much as though DD is home at the weekends so could be necessary due to work commitments. Whether or not she is at boarding school, or the reasons behind the choice isn’t the point of the thread or the reason OP has posted for advice.

Annielou67 · 24/11/2024 10:35

Hi. I am curious as to why the school aren’t as concerned as you. As a boarder, she will have a house parent whose job is to act in loco parentis. What is their view? If they genuinely don’t seem bothered there are channels to get this issue escalated, but that would be unusual. Your child’s physical and mental health at school is an integral part of their job.
The other oddity here is activity. Boarding schools are generally active places, with significant sports lessons and when school finishes there are usually activities. Often the children are advised to do a range of activities, not just cerebral, or dance/drama for example. Your houseparent could easily have suggested incorporating more sport/games into your daughter’s routine, or indeed your daughter could instigate that. My daughter had a weight problem, hated sport, but it was arranged that they walked another houseparents dog every day, which they loved, and they were given counselling and nutrition support ( they asked for help).
Please don’t force your daughter into anything she doesn’t want and please don’t judge her. If the gp comes back with no answers other than over eating, just, with a light touch, encourage a change of behaviour and work alongside your houseparent.

Wonderfulstuff · 24/11/2024 10:37

Given that she has been poorly and this weight gain has been so rapid I would be wanting a second opinion on her health. What bloods have they run? Has she had her cortisol levels checked via a 24hr urine collection? Has she seen her specialist who performed the operation? What do they think?

Whatever the cause, this is a massive red flag re: her physical and/or mental health and must be treated delicately and with care rather than shaming and blaming.

Gloriia · 24/11/2024 10:40

I'm astonished that the school Dr doesn't think putting on 22kg in 4months is a cause for concern and warrants further investigations.

Good that you're taking her to the gp op.

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