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Daughter getting fat in school

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joey197860 · 24/11/2024 07:49

Teenage daughter has gained 22kg in new boarding school. No medical explanation for it and she's very happy, wrll integrated and academically excelling. School has a shop on site and girls have access to kitchen in the evenings. Daughter had major surgery last year and specifically should not eat sugar loaded food. What am I to do? I want to pull her from the school at the end of this term. The school is absolutely no help when I discussed this with them.

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Orangewinegum8481 · 24/11/2024 18:06

mm81736 · 24/11/2024 07:57

You send her away from home, and wonder why she comfort eats!

Exactly this 💯

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 18:14

ByRoseMentor · 24/11/2024 11:28

Grow up

Grow up in what way. Person is correct.

StormingBurt · 24/11/2024 18:15

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 17:58

Why would OP engage with something so significant as 'bringing up your own child' when this can be palmed off to an deviant, demonic, destructive and deranged institution, as a perverse form of parental privatisation, out sourcing for social engineering purposes. What else are these parents doing all day? Is a career THAT important above bringing up your own flesh and blood. Read Earl of Spencer's autobiography and get back to me x

This isn't the place for a rant about b schools.
But one single post to put the other side (and I hope you can leave it or start a new thread!)

Some students go for very good reasons.

One of my closest friends boarded from age 7 which they say was far too young, and they do bear the 'scars' then went on to one of the top UK boarding schools. It was the thing that upper middle class parents did decades ago.
They spent the next 40 years teaching in very good boarding schools helping to make them happier places for the pupils and run on very different lines.

I've worked in boarding schools and they are very relevant to some children, whose home lives aren't stable (eg Forces) or where parents' work means a lot of overseas travel, sometimes for single parents (widowed - not necessarily divorced.)

Annabella92 · 24/11/2024 18:16

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 07:59

She is not happy, happy teens don't eat three and a half stone on.

I don't think that's true. Food is delicious, it's very easy to put weight on.

PalisadesPatty · 24/11/2024 18:17

Do people really send prep-school age children to boarding school, how sad. Kids learn normal healthy eating patterns by being taught at home around the table with their families, maybe you should rethink outsourcing your parenting responsibilities.

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 18:18

StormingBurt · 24/11/2024 18:15

This isn't the place for a rant about b schools.
But one single post to put the other side (and I hope you can leave it or start a new thread!)

Some students go for very good reasons.

One of my closest friends boarded from age 7 which they say was far too young, and they do bear the 'scars' then went on to one of the top UK boarding schools. It was the thing that upper middle class parents did decades ago.
They spent the next 40 years teaching in very good boarding schools helping to make them happier places for the pupils and run on very different lines.

I've worked in boarding schools and they are very relevant to some children, whose home lives aren't stable (eg Forces) or where parents' work means a lot of overseas travel, sometimes for single parents (widowed - not necessarily divorced.)

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There is zero justification for palming your kids off to boarding school and the idea that regular army can spend money on boarding school is bordering on the ridiculous. It's social engineering pure and simple as mummy and daddy ponse around skiing in the Alps.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:19

Orangewinegum8481 · 24/11/2024 18:06

Exactly this 💯

Why do people insist on going down this rabbit hole ? Have you not read the full thread ? OP is a disabled single mother. She possibly has bursaries in place for boarding school - these are not given without good reason. She hasn’t sent anyone away to school. She says it works for them, DD is happy and settled and the other two children are excited about going away to school. Right from the start, the fact that DD is at boarding school has been the excuse for so much batshit input.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:20

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 18:18

There is zero justification for palming your kids off to boarding school and the idea that regular army can spend money on boarding school is bordering on the ridiculous. It's social engineering pure and simple as mummy and daddy ponse around skiing in the Alps.

Bollocks. Do you think a disabled single mum is poncing around skiing in the Alps ? At least read the thread before posting vapid responses.

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 18:21

Annabella92 · 24/11/2024 18:16

I don't think that's true. Food is delicious, it's very easy to put weight on.

Nobody puts that much weight on is happy. The daughter has been to a medical professional.

And no matter how delicious food is it isn't typical for someone's appetite to multiply in a three month period.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:22

ConstanceM · 24/11/2024 18:14

Grow up in what way. Person is correct.

Nope. OP has said several times her DD can go to day school if there’s a problem and many posters have said taking her out of boarding school will be even more of a problem if she’s happy and settled there. So many stupid assumptions about boarding schools here.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:24

Marblesbackagain · 24/11/2024 18:21

Nobody puts that much weight on is happy. The daughter has been to a medical professional.

And no matter how delicious food is it isn't typical for someone's appetite to multiply in a three month period.

The daughter has had surgery to remove a hormone related tumour. The weight gain is overwhelmingly likely to be linked to that. And the daughter hasn’t been to any medical professional other than the school doctor. OP is consulting the GP with a view to investigating what’s been going on since the surgery.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:27

StormingBurt · 24/11/2024 16:25

Isn't it not that likely that this is medical because @joey197860 wasn't warned by the consultants. If the surgery might provoke some kind of endocrine response after a few months, she'd be told. Even if it was 1:million chance, she'd be told.

And because her reaction is to change schools,(to take her D away from the temptation of rubbish food) it suggests she doesn't think it's related to the surgery at all - or a specialist would be her first move.

Considering the 'brutal' discipline at home, I'm wondering if her D has low self worth and is being bullied at school?

Is it an all girls boarding school or mixed?
Is she a weekly boarder?
How does she behave/eat at home?

So many unanswered questions around all of this.

She won't admit being unhappy to her Mum, because she (the mum) likes to think everything it hunky dory - that she's happy, excelling, well adjusted etc.

If this is not medical, it's saying' Help! Why can't you see I'm unhappy.'

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Things go wrong after surgery. They may not have got all of the tumour. It may have resurfaced. In any event considering how recent the surgery is, and the fact that it’s hormone linked, this is the most sensible avenue to explore first.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:29

IncessantNameChanger · 24/11/2024 13:42

I'm presuming your talking about a English boarding school saying that no other country has such an obesity problem as the UK?

I know two bordering schools very well. Both only open kitchen for evening meals. Can't belive any private UK boarding school can offord to employ catering staff all hours. Both of my examples contracted catering. Evening meal is more like a supper. Lunch is hot meal and pudding.

Is that what your saying? Unlimited refectory all hours? Who pays for that? Your fees must be astronomical.

OP didn’t say that catering staff were employed all hours. She said pupils had access to the kitchen at night for snacks, drinks etc.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:30

Cyb3rg4l · 24/11/2024 16:56

Having experience of boarding school I guarantee the core diet will be well balanced and regular exercise will not be negotiable. The Matron and Housemistress would without a doubt have picked up on disordered eating very quickly and alerted OP and the school GP. OP will also have BUPA as part of the fees - honestly I don’t understand why she has not definitively ruled out a medical cause before jumping to the conclusion she has. All the resources and support will be in place. My take is she would rather be angry at the school than manage her child’s health because being angry is easier and less scary than looking for the cause when the family has already been through a lot with DC’s tumour surgery and assumed life would go back to normal

Most sensible post on the thread.

AccountDeleted · 24/11/2024 18:31

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:19

Why do people insist on going down this rabbit hole ? Have you not read the full thread ? OP is a disabled single mother. She possibly has bursaries in place for boarding school - these are not given without good reason. She hasn’t sent anyone away to school. She says it works for them, DD is happy and settled and the other two children are excited about going away to school. Right from the start, the fact that DD is at boarding school has been the excuse for so much batshit input.

Where does it say the OP is a disabled single Mother? I can’t see that anywhere?

Normallynumb · 24/11/2024 18:31

Are you actually able to talk to your DD?
You're insistent that she is happy yet seem quick to blame the school for an open kitchen
You fail to acknowledge a possible connection to her surgery for a tumour
My first thought is the weight gain is due to fluid or something hormonal due to the surgery.
Whatever the reason I do think you need to ask DD gently if she's ok rather than assume she must be

Tigertigertigertiger · 24/11/2024 18:32

It doesn't matter how fancy and hotel like her upmarket Dubai boarding school is.
She's comfort eating,
She's not happy.
She should be home with you

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:33

StormingBurt · 24/11/2024 13:59

Disregarding the emotional side of this (which I tend to think is the key) I'm surprised there is no follow-up from the surgery last year.

For such a major operation, I'd assume there were regular reviews with the specialist.

I'd also expect forewarning of weight gain if it was likely.

I'd also expect a teen to be able to control the eating of 'sugary foods' if they have been advised, after the surgery, to avoid them.

This is why I don't find a medical reason easy to accept because after such an operation it would be usual to consult the medics who did it, not a boarding school GP. (These are usually local GPs who do a stint at the school each week or less often.)

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I’ve had several benign tumours removed. No follow up. Discharged into the care of my GP. If the tumour has regrown or wasn’t fully removed, then the weight gain could be due to this unforeseen complication. It’s impossible to consult with the medics who carried out the removal if DD has been discharged, OP would have to go through her GP for a referral back.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:34

Tigertigertigertiger · 24/11/2024 18:32

It doesn't matter how fancy and hotel like her upmarket Dubai boarding school is.
She's comfort eating,
She's not happy.
She should be home with you

RTFT. There is a significant and relevant medical history here. And the boarding school is not in Dubai, it’s in the UK.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:35

AccountDeleted · 24/11/2024 18:31

Where does it say the OP is a disabled single Mother? I can’t see that anywhere?

She started another thread and details are there. Another poster found it upthread and posted a link.

Frozensnow · 24/11/2024 18:37

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:19

Why do people insist on going down this rabbit hole ? Have you not read the full thread ? OP is a disabled single mother. She possibly has bursaries in place for boarding school - these are not given without good reason. She hasn’t sent anyone away to school. She says it works for them, DD is happy and settled and the other two children are excited about going away to school. Right from the start, the fact that DD is at boarding school has been the excuse for so much batshit input.

Why would being single and disabled mean all 3 of your kids get bursaries to private school? And even if they are bursaries, op still has chosen to send her kid away. This is not the first boarding school from what she says and the child could attend as a day pupil but op has chosen not to do that. If you’re hugely worried about your child, you have them home of an evening! Bursary or not! Surely?!

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:38

Hoppinggreen · 24/11/2024 12:48

I am usually pretty anti Boarding school but I believe that in a very small number of cases the awful homelife can mean its a better option .

Why can’t it be a choice made because of the parental circumstances. The OP is a disabled single mother of three kids. If she has bursaries in place to send her children to boarding school there must be a very good reason. Are you always so sneering ?

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:43

Frozensnow · 24/11/2024 18:37

Why would being single and disabled mean all 3 of your kids get bursaries to private school? And even if they are bursaries, op still has chosen to send her kid away. This is not the first boarding school from what she says and the child could attend as a day pupil but op has chosen not to do that. If you’re hugely worried about your child, you have them home of an evening! Bursary or not! Surely?!

It depends on her circumstances and her disability doesn’t it ? From experience as a disability outreach worker, in 20 years I only came across a handful of mums in OP’s situation who received bursaries, and they were all for very good reasons. OP may be wealthy of course, but again in my experience there aren’t many single disabled mums out there in a position to fund boarding school education. OP has chosen not to divulge any further details about her circumstances and judging by some of the input on this thread, I don’t blame her.

Scarfitwere · 24/11/2024 18:43

joey197860 · 24/11/2024 10:55

I didn't post out if lack of love or care. Everything else has been tried. Please do not insult me for caring about my child. There are plenty of other countries where obesity is not a problem. Anything goes is acceptable here. But when it is my child's health, well-being that is at stake.
And boarding school or not, it's a parental choice. Her younger sibling can't wait to go boarding. Boarding school has many advantages over day school for us.

You said she's had surgery to remove a tumour but you haven't even taken her to the GP or contacted her surgeon about the weight gain....that is not 'trying everything else', that's barely doing anything.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/11/2024 18:44

Scarfitwere · 24/11/2024 18:43

You said she's had surgery to remove a tumour but you haven't even taken her to the GP or contacted her surgeon about the weight gain....that is not 'trying everything else', that's barely doing anything.

School GP said there was no medical reason for the weight gain. OP posted for advice here and was advised to go to her GP and take it further. She’s doing that. And if surgery was straightforward at the time, the consultant would have discharged DD back into the care of her GP. You can’t just contact the surgeon again, your GP has to re-refer you.