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A jury had found Conor McGregor guilty of assault

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Cartwrightandson · 22/11/2024 18:44

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyrxl00151o

Nikita had such terrible bruising, a paramedic hasn't seen such extensive bruising, she had to have a tampon removed from her cervix, she's had her house/car attacked, mum threatened, intruders broke into her home and tried to stab her bf/ threatening her and her bf he tried to pay her off in 2019 for a million, she said no I want justice.

Conor McGregor wearing a blue shirt, white shirt and black tie. He has light brown short hair and a beard

Woman wins civil rape case against Conor McGregor

A civil action was taken by Nikita Hand who had accused McGregor of raping her in a Dublin hotel in 2018.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyrxl00151o

OP posts:
SquirrelSoShiny · 29/11/2024 14:34

BlondeFool · 27/11/2024 09:31

Dees posts are absolutely shocking. 'Warn her sons about women like Nikita'? She's be better to advise her daughters about rapists like their father.

This absolutely.

I wonder how women like Dee square away living with men like McGregor. He has been publicly named and shamed for exactly what he is. By staying with him she becomes 'the woman staying with the man found guilty in a civil rape case'. So her choices are leave or forever be known as the woman who stayed and if you are going to stay I suppose mudslinging becomes a more attractive option, in the hope that people don't gaze at HER.

dogwal · 29/11/2024 15:51

From the Irish Independent, copied the article as it's behind a paywall.

Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano this week and hit almost every victim-blaming trope known to womankind

Ellen Coyne
Today at 02:30

Carmela Soprano was being moralised by the therapist, who was putting it to her plainly. Her man had done bad things, he’s prone to anger and he’s been unfaithful.

“Is that your definition of a good man?”

One of the most iconic episodes from The Sopranos is when Carmela is forced to rationalise out loud her reasons for staying with her husband. The scene has it all, every cliched excuse adored by women in denial: the unqualified assumption that men become good when they become fathers; that there is valour for women who stay loyal to bad men; and the time-honoured, hackneyed delusion that she could change him, that she was even going to try.

On Instagram this week – the national cathedral for Ireland’s idolaters of spin and aesthetics – Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano.

She used a picture of her own children as “testimony” to the man her long-term partner Conor McGregor is. She made reference to the “beautiful life” of wealth and plenty they’ve built together.

All we know about McGregor and Devlin’s relationship is what they choose to present to us. But in posting an appalling broadside against Nikita Hand that hit almost every single victim-blaming trope known to womankind, Devlin put forward an argument that has been eagerly repeated by some of McGregor’s most devoted supporters.

The problem with McGregor, Devlin and all his supporters is that they think the former mixed martial arts fighter is exceptional. The way Ms Hand has been savaged since she won her civil sexual assault case against McGregor proves that those on McGregor’s side have been conscripted into believing the most boring, predictable, moronic and sexist rape culture myths.

Like how being a mother damns Ms Hand, but being a father exonerates McGregor. Comments made by Devlin, and echoed by McGregor’s supporters, condemn Ms Hand for the original sin of being a mother who did not live a cloistered existence and had a weekend on the tiles. It seems people tend not to be as preoccupied with fathers who admit taking cocaine on a night out while their pregnant partner is at home with his children.

Devlin tried to protect her relationship with a garbled reference to a Bible verse – “They without sin cast the first stone” – all the while joining in with those firing rocks at Ms Hand.

Bear in mind that even before he lost his civil sexual assault case, McGregor was in hot water with the authorities for everything from driving offences, smashing a phone and trying to throw a trolley at a bus window.
And in the days before his partner gave birth last year, he was busying himself on social media pouring fuel on a fire that almost burnt down Dublin. But because he has a devoted fiancee and children, he gets to be a rich, complex and flawed character.

Ms Hand, despite winning her case, is unfairly cast as history’s favourite garden variety villain: The Bad Mother.
With no respect for the verdict, Mc­Gregor’s backers have declared “I believe him, a gendered twist on the slogan of solidarity that has long been the sole comfort of some of the women who have been brave enough to go up against rich and powerful abusers.

Winning her case has only made Ms Hand more of a target. Blind with agg­ression, McGregor’s supporters are trying to turn her into a scary bedtime story for those who find it easier to live in an imaginary world where women invent allegations, rather than the real one where men they may know or admire are capable of abuse.

McGregor’s servile supporters have been attacking Ms Hand for going out in an attractive outfit, for sending McGregor pictures of herself and for getting drunk – a line of thinking that follows the cues of McGregor and Devlin’s commentary. Unless McGregor, his fiancee and their fans have been cryogenically frozen since the 1970s, there is no excuse beyond clinical stupidity for anyone to still believe in 2024 that the way a woman dresses is a licence to assault her.
Many of McGregor’s supporters are from the kind of intellectual stock that tends to see wives and children as assets and character references for men, rather than people in their own right.

No woman should be liable for the appalling behaviour of her partner. But in Devlin’s case, she has chosen to help cultivate and defend the “family man” image McGregor seems to want far more than he seems willing to earn.
Carmela Soprano found her excuses in the wedding band on her finger. Where did Devlin find hers? In the cushioned seats of a Bentley, in the lining of a Dior bag? Or in the eyes of someone who has managed to convince her he’s a good man, just because he has been good to her?

Supermarkets and retailers have dropped McGregor’s brands like a hot snot. There is one rape culture myth that McGregor and his supporters don’t seem to have invoked so far, and that’s the claim that an assault allegation can ruin a man’s professional life. It’s almost always not true, as many awful men have proved. Maybe this time Conor McGregor really deserves to be the exception.

Toomanywars · 29/11/2024 16:37

dogwal · 29/11/2024 15:51

From the Irish Independent, copied the article as it's behind a paywall.

Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano this week and hit almost every victim-blaming trope known to womankind

Ellen Coyne
Today at 02:30

Carmela Soprano was being moralised by the therapist, who was putting it to her plainly. Her man had done bad things, he’s prone to anger and he’s been unfaithful.

“Is that your definition of a good man?”

One of the most iconic episodes from The Sopranos is when Carmela is forced to rationalise out loud her reasons for staying with her husband. The scene has it all, every cliched excuse adored by women in denial: the unqualified assumption that men become good when they become fathers; that there is valour for women who stay loyal to bad men; and the time-honoured, hackneyed delusion that she could change him, that she was even going to try.

On Instagram this week – the national cathedral for Ireland’s idolaters of spin and aesthetics – Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano.

She used a picture of her own children as “testimony” to the man her long-term partner Conor McGregor is. She made reference to the “beautiful life” of wealth and plenty they’ve built together.

All we know about McGregor and Devlin’s relationship is what they choose to present to us. But in posting an appalling broadside against Nikita Hand that hit almost every single victim-blaming trope known to womankind, Devlin put forward an argument that has been eagerly repeated by some of McGregor’s most devoted supporters.

The problem with McGregor, Devlin and all his supporters is that they think the former mixed martial arts fighter is exceptional. The way Ms Hand has been savaged since she won her civil sexual assault case against McGregor proves that those on McGregor’s side have been conscripted into believing the most boring, predictable, moronic and sexist rape culture myths.

Like how being a mother damns Ms Hand, but being a father exonerates McGregor. Comments made by Devlin, and echoed by McGregor’s supporters, condemn Ms Hand for the original sin of being a mother who did not live a cloistered existence and had a weekend on the tiles. It seems people tend not to be as preoccupied with fathers who admit taking cocaine on a night out while their pregnant partner is at home with his children.

Devlin tried to protect her relationship with a garbled reference to a Bible verse – “They without sin cast the first stone” – all the while joining in with those firing rocks at Ms Hand.

Bear in mind that even before he lost his civil sexual assault case, McGregor was in hot water with the authorities for everything from driving offences, smashing a phone and trying to throw a trolley at a bus window.
And in the days before his partner gave birth last year, he was busying himself on social media pouring fuel on a fire that almost burnt down Dublin. But because he has a devoted fiancee and children, he gets to be a rich, complex and flawed character.

Ms Hand, despite winning her case, is unfairly cast as history’s favourite garden variety villain: The Bad Mother.
With no respect for the verdict, Mc­Gregor’s backers have declared “I believe him, a gendered twist on the slogan of solidarity that has long been the sole comfort of some of the women who have been brave enough to go up against rich and powerful abusers.

Winning her case has only made Ms Hand more of a target. Blind with agg­ression, McGregor’s supporters are trying to turn her into a scary bedtime story for those who find it easier to live in an imaginary world where women invent allegations, rather than the real one where men they may know or admire are capable of abuse.

McGregor’s servile supporters have been attacking Ms Hand for going out in an attractive outfit, for sending McGregor pictures of herself and for getting drunk – a line of thinking that follows the cues of McGregor and Devlin’s commentary. Unless McGregor, his fiancee and their fans have been cryogenically frozen since the 1970s, there is no excuse beyond clinical stupidity for anyone to still believe in 2024 that the way a woman dresses is a licence to assault her.
Many of McGregor’s supporters are from the kind of intellectual stock that tends to see wives and children as assets and character references for men, rather than people in their own right.

No woman should be liable for the appalling behaviour of her partner. But in Devlin’s case, she has chosen to help cultivate and defend the “family man” image McGregor seems to want far more than he seems willing to earn.
Carmela Soprano found her excuses in the wedding band on her finger. Where did Devlin find hers? In the cushioned seats of a Bentley, in the lining of a Dior bag? Or in the eyes of someone who has managed to convince her he’s a good man, just because he has been good to her?

Supermarkets and retailers have dropped McGregor’s brands like a hot snot. There is one rape culture myth that McGregor and his supporters don’t seem to have invoked so far, and that’s the claim that an assault allegation can ruin a man’s professional life. It’s almost always not true, as many awful men have proved. Maybe this time Conor McGregor really deserves to be the exception.

Edited

Excellent post. The stupid supporters do anything other than accepting he is a vile agressive rapist who doesn't value women. He thinks beating a woman black and blue is sex.

BlondeFool · 29/11/2024 17:58

dogwal · 29/11/2024 15:51

From the Irish Independent, copied the article as it's behind a paywall.

Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano this week and hit almost every victim-blaming trope known to womankind

Ellen Coyne
Today at 02:30

Carmela Soprano was being moralised by the therapist, who was putting it to her plainly. Her man had done bad things, he’s prone to anger and he’s been unfaithful.

“Is that your definition of a good man?”

One of the most iconic episodes from The Sopranos is when Carmela is forced to rationalise out loud her reasons for staying with her husband. The scene has it all, every cliched excuse adored by women in denial: the unqualified assumption that men become good when they become fathers; that there is valour for women who stay loyal to bad men; and the time-honoured, hackneyed delusion that she could change him, that she was even going to try.

On Instagram this week – the national cathedral for Ireland’s idolaters of spin and aesthetics – Dee Devlin gave us her best Carmela Soprano.

She used a picture of her own children as “testimony” to the man her long-term partner Conor McGregor is. She made reference to the “beautiful life” of wealth and plenty they’ve built together.

All we know about McGregor and Devlin’s relationship is what they choose to present to us. But in posting an appalling broadside against Nikita Hand that hit almost every single victim-blaming trope known to womankind, Devlin put forward an argument that has been eagerly repeated by some of McGregor’s most devoted supporters.

The problem with McGregor, Devlin and all his supporters is that they think the former mixed martial arts fighter is exceptional. The way Ms Hand has been savaged since she won her civil sexual assault case against McGregor proves that those on McGregor’s side have been conscripted into believing the most boring, predictable, moronic and sexist rape culture myths.

Like how being a mother damns Ms Hand, but being a father exonerates McGregor. Comments made by Devlin, and echoed by McGregor’s supporters, condemn Ms Hand for the original sin of being a mother who did not live a cloistered existence and had a weekend on the tiles. It seems people tend not to be as preoccupied with fathers who admit taking cocaine on a night out while their pregnant partner is at home with his children.

Devlin tried to protect her relationship with a garbled reference to a Bible verse – “They without sin cast the first stone” – all the while joining in with those firing rocks at Ms Hand.

Bear in mind that even before he lost his civil sexual assault case, McGregor was in hot water with the authorities for everything from driving offences, smashing a phone and trying to throw a trolley at a bus window.
And in the days before his partner gave birth last year, he was busying himself on social media pouring fuel on a fire that almost burnt down Dublin. But because he has a devoted fiancee and children, he gets to be a rich, complex and flawed character.

Ms Hand, despite winning her case, is unfairly cast as history’s favourite garden variety villain: The Bad Mother.
With no respect for the verdict, Mc­Gregor’s backers have declared “I believe him, a gendered twist on the slogan of solidarity that has long been the sole comfort of some of the women who have been brave enough to go up against rich and powerful abusers.

Winning her case has only made Ms Hand more of a target. Blind with agg­ression, McGregor’s supporters are trying to turn her into a scary bedtime story for those who find it easier to live in an imaginary world where women invent allegations, rather than the real one where men they may know or admire are capable of abuse.

McGregor’s servile supporters have been attacking Ms Hand for going out in an attractive outfit, for sending McGregor pictures of herself and for getting drunk – a line of thinking that follows the cues of McGregor and Devlin’s commentary. Unless McGregor, his fiancee and their fans have been cryogenically frozen since the 1970s, there is no excuse beyond clinical stupidity for anyone to still believe in 2024 that the way a woman dresses is a licence to assault her.
Many of McGregor’s supporters are from the kind of intellectual stock that tends to see wives and children as assets and character references for men, rather than people in their own right.

No woman should be liable for the appalling behaviour of her partner. But in Devlin’s case, she has chosen to help cultivate and defend the “family man” image McGregor seems to want far more than he seems willing to earn.
Carmela Soprano found her excuses in the wedding band on her finger. Where did Devlin find hers? In the cushioned seats of a Bentley, in the lining of a Dior bag? Or in the eyes of someone who has managed to convince her he’s a good man, just because he has been good to her?

Supermarkets and retailers have dropped McGregor’s brands like a hot snot. There is one rape culture myth that McGregor and his supporters don’t seem to have invoked so far, and that’s the claim that an assault allegation can ruin a man’s professional life. It’s almost always not true, as many awful men have proved. Maybe this time Conor McGregor really deserves to be the exception.

Edited

Absolutely spot on 🎯

Lallydallydune · 01/12/2024 19:34

All of mcgregors drinks being pulled from the shops now.

SquirrelSoShiny · 01/12/2024 19:42

Lallydallydune · 01/12/2024 19:34

All of mcgregors drinks being pulled from the shops now.

Long may it continue.

Lallydallydune · 01/12/2024 19:52

SquirrelSoShiny · 01/12/2024 19:42

Long may it continue.

Yes. This isn't over yet though.

He's going to appeal. If he wins his appeal against her though, he could then sue her for millions for damages and loss of earnings .

Member984815 · 05/12/2024 08:01

The Court hearing for the costs is happening today

Lallydallydune · 05/12/2024 17:01

Efacsen · 05/12/2024 17:00

Conor McGregor ordered to pay Nikhita Hand’s €1.5m costs in civil rape case

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/05/conor-mcgregor-ordered-to-pay-nikhita-hands-15m-costs-in-civil-case

Ooh 1.5 million costs. That's huge.

A solicitor wouldn't cost that much.

I've used a solicitor myself before for a case.

So what is the 1.5 million awarded for?

Lallydallydune · 05/12/2024 17:03

I'm glad the judge decided not to award James lawrence any costs, as that would have taken all of Nikitas money

Fair play to Nikita.

Havalona · 05/12/2024 17:26

As they say in Ireland (and maybe elsewhere) "Well good enough for him"

Nikita Hand is one brave woman. She didn't need to throw a punch to knock him out.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 05/12/2024 17:26

Wow. That is a lot. Grin

19lottie82 · 05/12/2024 17:28

Lallydallydune · 01/12/2024 19:52

Yes. This isn't over yet though.

He's going to appeal. If he wins his appeal against her though, he could then sue her for millions for damages and loss of earnings .

I bet he doesn’t appeal. Words are cheap.

Efacsen · 05/12/2024 17:41

19lottie82 · 05/12/2024 17:28

I bet he doesn’t appeal. Words are cheap.

Appeal is scheduled for 16th January but as you say it might not go ahead

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 05/12/2024 18:08

Lallydallydune · 05/12/2024 17:01

Ooh 1.5 million costs. That's huge.

A solicitor wouldn't cost that much.

I've used a solicitor myself before for a case.

So what is the 1.5 million awarded for?

Edited

Her legal team might well have done. This is a complex case that's gone on a long time. It will have taken considerable preparation, there were offers to settle which would've involved work to consider and deal with, there were multiple witnesses. I'd expect they'll have had to justify their costs, that's how it would work in England.

Fabuloosaloo · 05/12/2024 18:10

He just vile and gets off on humiliating women through rough sex .

dogwal · 05/12/2024 19:12

Good on the judge.

"In his ruling the judge declared: 'Mr Lawrence and Mr McGregor went with the one narrative. The defendants filed a single defence represented by one legal firm. Mr Lawrence has modest means and McGregor was footing his legal bill.

'It is completely inappropriate to award Mr Lawrence any part of his costs even though he succeeded in his defence against Ms Hand'. "

McGregor the world's greatest sleaze ball. Wonder if Nikita can sue him and the girlfriend for defamation after the abuse and insults they wrote about her.

ScrollingLeaves · 05/12/2024 19:35

'It is completely inappropriate to award Mr Lawrence any part of his costs

Ir seems the judge may have thought Lawrence reprehensible even though he was acquitted.

The judge seems to have been so much more expert about the nature of rape than is usually the case. For example making it clear that a photo is not consent; submission is not consent etc.

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