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I can't go dutch

154 replies

Whatinthedoopla · 21/11/2024 21:08

I am currently low on funds, and will be going out to a distant cousin's birthday, but didn't realise the meal is costing £80! And this is without drinks!
I accepted the invitation before knowing the price.

I assume people will be drinking alcohol etc, I am literally going to order 1 soft drink and that's it!

How do I politely decline going Dutch? These are family members I don't see often

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Whatinthedoopla · 22/11/2024 04:15

worcesterpear · 21/11/2024 21:41

Can you take cash, work out your share as you go plus a tip, then when the meal has finished, announce a reason why you need to leave early and leave your money to cover your share.

I think this is a great idea! Thank you!

Sorry everyone for the confusion in my post, what I meant by going Dutch is that the bill is split evenly (with drinks included). I don't mind paying my own meal and drinks, but if people start ordering alcohol, this I can't afford.

She is a distant cousin, but one we dearly love and don't get to see often.

I like the idea of taking cash then leaving a bit earlier, I can definitely make an excuse for this.

I want to go to the meal, but just hate also paying for others having alcohol when I'm not. Even when I did have money I hated doing this.

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Dorisbonson · 22/11/2024 04:28

Dartmoorcheffy · 21/11/2024 21:26

It really does

Google it. You are incorrect.

Dorisbonson · 22/11/2024 04:29

Onthesideofthespiders · 21/11/2024 21:28

It does. “Shall we go Dutch?” Means shall we just split the bill.

Paying for ourselves means paying for yourself. Going Dutch mean splitting is evenly. That’s literally the definition. It does not mean to just pay for what you ordered; it means splitting the bill evenly.

Google it.

mm81736 · 22/11/2024 04:58

Whatinthedoopla · 22/11/2024 04:15

I think this is a great idea! Thank you!

Sorry everyone for the confusion in my post, what I meant by going Dutch is that the bill is split evenly (with drinks included). I don't mind paying my own meal and drinks, but if people start ordering alcohol, this I can't afford.

She is a distant cousin, but one we dearly love and don't get to see often.

I like the idea of taking cash then leaving a bit earlier, I can definitely make an excuse for this.

I want to go to the meal, but just hate also paying for others having alcohol when I'm not. Even when I did have money I hated doing this.

Just check that they accept cash! Increasingly restaurants don't .

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 05:03

Whatinthedoopla · 21/11/2024 21:08

I am currently low on funds, and will be going out to a distant cousin's birthday, but didn't realise the meal is costing £80! And this is without drinks!
I accepted the invitation before knowing the price.

I assume people will be drinking alcohol etc, I am literally going to order 1 soft drink and that's it!

How do I politely decline going Dutch? These are family members I don't see often

You don't go if you cannot afford to pay for it.

LAMPS1 · 22/11/2024 05:04

Well if you can’t afford to go Dutch and pay for your own food and drink, then you can’t go at all and should let them know you can’t attend asap.
It sounds as if the terms of this ‘invitation’ weren’t communicated properly to you from the outset, in which case, you have been put in a difficult position.
Just message to say you are sorry to no longer be able to attend the birthday dinner but wish them all a lovely evening and will arrange to see them when you can.

Wingingit11 · 22/11/2024 05:21

I think if everyone else’s expectation is to simply split the bill, you leaving cash (if that’s allowed) will potentially cause some ill feeling. Personally I agree with others that you should cancel and suggest to your distant cousin you take her for dinner (cheaper!) At a later date. Be honest and and say you can’t afford it !

Coconutter24 · 22/11/2024 06:33

Onthesideofthespiders · 21/11/2024 21:28

It does. “Shall we go Dutch?” Means shall we just split the bill.

Paying for ourselves means paying for yourself. Going Dutch mean splitting is evenly. That’s literally the definition. It does not mean to just pay for what you ordered; it means splitting the bill evenly.

That’s not the definition. Splitting the bill is equally, going Dutch is paying for your own order

trader21c · 22/11/2024 06:43

i wouldn’t go - I have a wealthy (ish) sister who always wants to meet for lunches out and expects everyone to just pay an equal share of the bill while her DH tucks into endless starters, puddings etc and we don’t - needless to say he never chooses cheaper options for food or for the meeting place - I’ve decided it is easier not to go to spare the fuss although obviously would be happy just to pay for what we’ve eaten/drunk …

icanatilldancetowhigfield · 22/11/2024 06:48

A distant cousin is a funny way to describe someone you love dearly. These seem two opposites - in the first post it sounds like you hardly know her and the whole thing is a bind, then in the second it sounds quite different.

Calliopespa · 22/11/2024 08:18

Whatinthedoopla · 22/11/2024 04:15

I think this is a great idea! Thank you!

Sorry everyone for the confusion in my post, what I meant by going Dutch is that the bill is split evenly (with drinks included). I don't mind paying my own meal and drinks, but if people start ordering alcohol, this I can't afford.

She is a distant cousin, but one we dearly love and don't get to see often.

I like the idea of taking cash then leaving a bit earlier, I can definitely make an excuse for this.

I want to go to the meal, but just hate also paying for others having alcohol when I'm not. Even when I did have money I hated doing this.

I like this idea too oP.

Calliopespa · 22/11/2024 08:19

mm81736 · 22/11/2024 04:58

Just check that they accept cash! Increasingly restaurants don't .

She can always give it to one of the guests if leaving early.

Bjorkdidit · 22/11/2024 09:11

Wingingit11 · 22/11/2024 05:21

I think if everyone else’s expectation is to simply split the bill, you leaving cash (if that’s allowed) will potentially cause some ill feeling. Personally I agree with others that you should cancel and suggest to your distant cousin you take her for dinner (cheaper!) At a later date. Be honest and and say you can’t afford it !

But why can't the OP go, order within her budget and pay for what she had?

Why should she miss out if because she can't afford to or doesn't want to pay for others to have more food and drink than she's having? She pays for what she's having and they pay for what they're having, surely?

MumOfOneAllAlone · 22/11/2024 09:15

user942557 · 22/11/2024 01:31

Why would you dump someone because they don't fund a meal for you? Bizarre

Awkward Episode 2 GIF by The Office

Someone who would expect me to pay half when he takes me out on a date? I'd have to dump, sorry 🤭🤭

Crushed23 · 22/11/2024 09:53

Lyannaa · 21/11/2024 21:20

This sort of thing is very unfair. Why do people think it’s reasonable to assume that everyone can afford an £80 meal?

That's the going rate for dinner somewhere half decent these days. As it's a birthday meal, I'm sure the person whose birthday it is doesn't want to have it in a Wetherspoons or whatever. OP is free to decline the invitation.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 10:40

MumOfOneAllAlone · 22/11/2024 09:15

Someone who would expect me to pay half when he takes me out on a date? I'd have to dump, sorry 🤭🤭

Why?
Why wouldn't you pay for what you consume?
It's not the 1950s.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 10:41

Calliopespa · 22/11/2024 08:19

She can always give it to one of the guests if leaving early.

Forcing them to put more on their card?

Spirallingdownwards · 22/11/2024 10:45

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 21/11/2024 21:14

Then it's being used in a way that I've never heard, but perhaps it has changed its meaning over the years.

No going Dutch has always meant an equal division of the bill between participants.

AquaLeader · 22/11/2024 10:57

Spirallingdownwards · 22/11/2024 10:45

No going Dutch has always meant an equal division of the bill between participants.

That is simply not true.

RedPony1 · 22/11/2024 12:19

Spirallingdownwards · 22/11/2024 10:45

No going Dutch has always meant an equal division of the bill between participants.

It's never meant that.

It means paying for your own expenses

Calliopespa · 22/11/2024 12:29

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 10:41

Forcing them to put more on their card?

But does that matter if they have the cash in pocket?

I’m not trying to be argumentative with you; it’s a genuine question. The way DH and I operate finances it would make no difference.

dottiedodah · 22/11/2024 12:36

If its close family going as well .could one of them sub you to payday? Or do what my friend used do .go for the starter and miss the main! £80 seems dear!

MumOfOneAllAlone · 22/11/2024 13:05

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 10:40

Why?
Why wouldn't you pay for what you consume?
It's not the 1950s.

Thank goodness it isn't but if someone wants to woo me, they need to pay for dinner 😅

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 13:20

MumOfOneAllAlone · 22/11/2024 13:05

Thank goodness it isn't but if someone wants to woo me, they need to pay for dinner 😅

Why though?

DieStrassensindimmernass · 22/11/2024 13:21

Calliopespa · 22/11/2024 12:29

But does that matter if they have the cash in pocket?

I’m not trying to be argumentative with you; it’s a genuine question. The way DH and I operate finances it would make no difference.

Yrs, it matters, especially if you don't normally use much cash.

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