Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Plenty of boat people?

Please elaborate

@Flatbellyfella you need to get back to Truth social or whatever it’s called.

The Russian Oligarchs love their Yachts in the South of France.
Trump loves his golf.
Goodness knows what sleepy Joe likes, but it won't be hunkering down into a bunker.

I get why they’re joining NATO. To have the threat of superior US weaponry and US, French and U.K. nukes as a last resort. It might well be a good thing, but my point is that countries forming new military alliances is a good indicator that they’re seriously preparing for the eventuality of wider warfare.

Some of us run businesses that will be affected, so planning ahead is a good idea. My business has already been affected by pipelines in eastern Europe and an undersea cable that needs repairing in the Red Sea and can't be because of the Gaza war.

Sweden ( and possibly finland) have issued 'practicalitues' pamphlet onwhat people can do if Russia invaded them.
Initial info was jan 2024, updated as of this week which I feel has to be in response to Bidens actions.
I won't worry too much about it but I think if governments are advising citizens it says something!
Covid taught us it's better to be prepared but unfortunately most of us don't have spaces to stock large amounts of stuff!.

Well if the doomsday clock is anything to go by ... I think one wrong move by any country right now could set off a world war .

Poland has also been preparing for a Russian invasion. It is widely thought by Poland and Ukraine that it will be the next target.

I think you are correct. The US military has the launch codes for the ATACMS which means the proxy element has been removed and America is effectively as war with Russia.

I looked at the Alexander Mercouris and I agree that this is Biden ensuring WW3 gets going before Trump takes over. Trump has been clear he will bring the war to an end.

It's concerning that so many people do not realise that US and European (with exceptions) governments have been edging us closer to all out war for the last 3 years. How can people be so gullible after 2003?

Jeffrey Sachs gives some historical context to how we find ourselves where we are now.

Yes, the CND groups {there used to be many} said those living in London and other major cities would be the lucky ones.

Better to be vaped than to suffer the aftermath.

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I wouldn't be going back to work for some me time and freedom if this was the case (obviously I know you're being sarcastic)

Yes I suspect there are plenty of people happy to beat the drum for war just as long as people they care about don't have to fight it.

I don't understand posts like this.

We are already getting aggressions - cyber attacks etc.

War doesn't always look like traditional war any more.

No. People have been asking this every few months for years. Its party of the anxiety culture of the post war-on-terror years. Oh the irony! Just get on with your life until you have something to worry about.

There’s a view that Putin is trying to build/rebuild the old Russian empire/construct a Warsaw Pact #2.

If true then logically that puts Poland and the Baltic states next on the list, but pragmatically even if Ukraine fell tomorrow I don’t think the Russian Army will be in anything like a fit state to take on Poland for many years (and of course NATO membership comes into play).

TBH I have to say I lived through the 80s and was in the military for a chunk of that decade in a front line role ….now that was interesting at times. Despite what the Doomsday clock supposedly says ATM I’m really not getting feeling this as close to some sort of “edge” as some think…but then again I don’t get to read/hear the interesting stuff anymore..

Exactly. I don't even have a freezer {Just an ice cream compartment} - The empty shelves of Covid showed how much worse a War would be.
For the first time in many people's lives {Those who live in UK ay any rate} there were shops that had been stripped bare as if by locusts.

One woman, her trolley like a mountain with perishables was shouted at by a customer who had a small basket ''You are part of the problem!''

Greed really came to the fore in the lockdown, there were supply chain issues, and delivery issues- a War will make Covid look like trifling thing.

I am under no illusion about how dangerous the world is right now but I’m not worried. Why? Because I’m busy getting on enjoying my life and family while we still have the means and infrastructure to do it. That’s what rich people are doing.

There is a whole world out there still going on holiday, still seeing movies, still falling in love, still making art, still eating out, still buying silly slogan t shirts and decorating for Christmas. Don’t look out of the plane window - just watch the flight attendants still serving drinks.

@oakleaffy

Russia wouldn't have to worry about UK these days. First week after World War 3 starts, civil war will start in UK and we'll all kill each other over baked beans and bog roll.

Im not bothered with any on it.
If there a war or not.

Or they themselves, of course.
War really is ghastly.

Most of us living in UK will have had relatives who fought in WW1 and WW2, and the physical and psychological damage that gave was immense.

Ukraine has young men seeking to escape the 'call~up' even today.

They don't want to die- Russian conscripts don't want to die either.

No one does.

War is brutal and those that start it are safe behind lines.

It's looking like WW1 in Parts of Ukraine- Trench warfare.

Not likely to happen

Op this is precisely what Putin wants you to think.

Russia are in no fit state to even continue the war they are in, they are bogged down in Ukraine.

They have signalled a lower ‘threshold’ for their nuclear activation as retaliation after the US agreed that missiles could be launched into Russia. This was after Russia escalated its drone attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.

I still believe we are reaching the end game. Russia are having to use soldiers from North Korea. Their military stocks are depleted, and this is a failed war. All they have left now is the threat of nuclear war - if they were going to use nuclear weapons they would have done by now.

The Russians are not idiots. If they dare to strike then they will be annihilated in seconds.

Please turn off the news.

@Artistbythewater I agree with the "this is what Putin wants you to think".

But then I wonder why our mainstream media report on it so breathlessly. Is it just a wish for hits. It seems so silly to indulge him with "live updates" that get everyone panicking

No

no

Biden has given Ukraine the missiles in anticipation of Trump having his tongue up Putins arse. A few missiles won't make much difference in a country as huge as Russia.

It's just horrible stupid unnecessary games.