Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Un fucking believable that any one in the West would believe & write this crap.

Putin from Litvinenko to Salisbury to Navalny to several journalists deaths has shown that he is not someone to trust.

You would not survive long writing anti Putin articles in Russia and that should tell you all you need to know.

Lord Haw-Haw is busy tonight.

Welcome to Mumsnet deeperdrivens, I see this is the only thread you've ever posted on, what a shame you are spreading russian disinformation.

U24 donation time again?

I have been a member for years and have posted on multiple threads. Everything I said was from western sources, and I was supporting Ukraine's right to the benefit of the resources on its land.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

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Then how about defending Ukraines right to exist, within its pre 2014 boundaries or even its pre 2022 ones?

because if Putin takes over the place, it will mean further bloodshed, torture imprisonment & mass exodus to the West.

People like cause great damage to the cause of Ukraine because some will believe your falsehoods.

I have been a member for years and have posted on multiple threads. Everything I said was from western sources, and I was supporting Ukraine's right to the benefit of the resources on its land.

I can't find any record of you posting under your first username - which you have now slightly tweaked, but your posts are still being deleted .... it all seems a bit suspect.

Is it nice to pile on and bully everyone who dared to have a different opinion to yours...

Poster isn't being bullied but being challenged to back up his/her claims that Putin can be negotiated with plus multiple posts deleted, rarely done with posters who are doing so in good faith.

Is it nice to pile on and bully everyone who dared to have a different opinion to yours...

No if the poster is genuine it isn't nice.
If however the poster is a shill pushing Russian disinformation about Biolabs etc then such bollocks should be countered.
Look back at how this poster has flooded the thread with 'I'm no expert but ...' type posts.
Look at how many posts have been removed and the change to the username. Something seems off with this poster.

Would you have said this about someone who was defending Germany in 1938?

The opinions of apologists, fifth columnists and enemy propagandists should always be ridiculed.

No, I work full time and don't have any children. Am I allowed to worry that we might be entering into a world war?

As should opinions of brainwashed individuals without critical thinking who think that their vision is the right one.. No parallel here - only in your imagination!

I am sorry it has taken a week to get back to you, it is no problem to provide the source as I had offered it. I attach the youtube video in which Christine Parthemore speaks about biolabs in Ukr and what she says is as I had paraphrased upthread. To answer your final paragraph, if you look at this and then look at the document you linked, you will probably see nuanced differences in subject matter though I haven't read your document in details. I have transcribed the interview in part for ease of reference and put key bits in bold below. Any small errors are not intentional (though I don't think that there are any).

Summary of start of interview: A statement is given at the start "Ukraine has biological research facilities", it was referring to something before the clip starts but implicit that at this point the statement is agreed. There is then some general discussion, Christine Parthemore ("CP") says research is for health, research is around pathogens (influenza, things with risk of infecting humans and animals), that Ukr is not developing chemical or bio weapons - she says "we do not believe that Ukr have biological weapons programs". Chair then confirms that there are 16 biolabs on Ukraine soil and this is implicitly confirmed.
The interview continues as follows:
Chair: Does the study involve developing pathogens as well?
CP: No
Chair: Do you know what these pathogens are and why is there such panic? What are the pathogens which, as it is being said out here, that if these pathogens, if these specific pathogens get away then they can be very dangerous, which means inside those biolabs in Ukraine there are some dangerous pathogens and all of this is happening under the DTRA (Defence Threat Reduction Agency) and the DTRA actually got millions for low visibility chemical and biological research that would meet "specific combatant command requirements" which means they were being used for military purpose which means therefore - and I am quoting information which has come from the Pentagon - that means millions have gone into the development of low visibility chemical and biologcal research that will meet specific combatant command requirements which means they are being used for the US military
CP: (time reference 3:46) There is work [ie referring to Ukr biolabs] which is occurring for defensive purposes as well as public health purposes
Chair: [...] There has been increased funding for the Nimble Elder Program of the Defence threat Reduction Agency which is driven by "classified department of defence guidance" and this is aimed with "low visibility" - low visibility which means that the world should not know - chemical and biological research for military purposes...but you just said public health...this doesn't sound like public health to me at all...[please could you clarify what is going on] because you have used biological and chemical weapons in the past
CP: [...] this work is defensive and for public health purposes [...] [not developed for offensive use]
Chair asks for confirmation that it is not for offensive purposes but it is for military use.
End of clip

Thank you for this. It was a bit of a pile on!

You keep asking me about negotiation - I don't think I have said anything about negotiation? It is relevant, but I don't think I mentioned it anywhere. If I did, can you quote?

There were quite a few posts making accusations mostly from people who hadn't actually read what I had written.

I am none of the things you have said. I have provided basic open source information, and asked questions about who will really benefit from how we (in the west) are handling this conflict. My questions were responsible, and referred to factual information such as the EU agreement and the senator talking about minerals. Are you seriously saying we do not have the right to question our governments' foreign policy? And if we do we will be considered a traitor?

You refer to 1938 - 1938 was the year Britain negotiated the Munich Agreement with Hitler. During the 1930s Hitler had support from the monied classes of the west as he was anti Bolshevik as well as anti Jewish and Bolshevism was seen as a greater evil than Hitler. But even if you know your history inside out, you cannot say that just because mistakes were made in the 1930s, we should not question how things are being done now.

I studied this subject at a Russell Grant Group university a long time ago, I remember these basics, but no I am not an expert. Discussion and sharing of ideas is a good and positive thing, but impossible if people scream insults at you for daring to disagree with them.

You mentioned "Peace Terms" should protect Ukrainian resources, who would you suggest the 'West and Ukraine have these Peace Terms with and how?

Peace Terms mean Negotiation, i'd have thought that was clear?

Too many posts deleted to search any further, not that i have the inclination..

The posts were deleted because they were full of disinformation, untruths, half truhs and Putin apologist bollocks.

Now they've bumped the thread, why? To try to keep people reading their rubbish.

None of the posts were deleted because they were full of disinformation, untruths, half truhs or Putin apologist bollocks

All of those accusations were untrue

I think Ukraine deserves a peaceful prosperous future.

So, which talk guidelines did they violate to cause their removal by MNHQ?