To stop using Mumsnet for a while because of the constant negative comments about men?

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I've just posted a thread about my missing (now turned up) friend. So many posters assuming that her DP was violent, controlling etc. etc.

Someone else posted about their DP getting a letter from child maintenance about a child he'd never met - again people slagging him of for "sowing his oats" implying he'd been violent and god knows what.

That's just 2 examples. There are some horrible men out there of course there are but it makes me so sad to see this constant underlying misandry here on mumsnet. Men our are sons, brothers, partners and fathers and the very vast majority of them are decent people - flawed perhaps, made some mistakes perhaps but that does not make them violent controlling etc. etc. it makes them human.

Please stop it mumsnet. Certainly attribute blame where it's genuinely due but stop making these awful assumptions it's unhelpful and nasty.

Signing off will be back in a few weeks to see whether or not things have improved - doubt it sadly

Why don’t you put in a suggestion to MN for a board perhaps ? Like the ‘all men are lovely’ board.

DH told me a story last night about an older man he worked with in one of his first jobs. This man was loved by all the women in the office. He was an old geezer but well dressed and charming. Every day he asked them about their day, listened to them and made them feel part of the team. They all would all say he was one of the good guys.

One day DH went to lunch with him... and he got a one hour monologue about every single woman in the office, what this old man would do to them, what they'd do to him, whether they were sluts or battleaxes, whether they'd enjoy it.

The way some men, these good men, speak about us when we're not listening is not what you think.

There's 4 women PER WEEK in the UK killed at the hands of men.

1 women every six seconds has been killed by a man somewhere in the world.

That's 4 probably in the time I typed this. Maybe 5 now.

The vilification of men is thoroughly well deserved.

Or maybe a “let’s not make generalisations about one entire gender” board?

Poor menz.
No-one understands them. No-one sees their entitled, rapey, porn-fuelled behaviour as ok.
Not all women accept their rancid dicks up their arses, or being choked to unconsciousness because the menz find it a thrill.
Some women even object to being beaten!
You even find women who run out of patience with cocklodgers who live their own lives whilst scrounging off a woman, living in her home and making life uncomfortable for her children.

Misandry. That's it. Unreasonably negative attitudes to men.

NOT.

Every single man I know speaks confidently about what they'd do to rapists and child abusers if they came across them. The punishments they'd inflict, the justice they'd extract. And they've come across them. And they've turned the other way. Even if the victim is their own friend, their own children, their own partner.

Yep. Mumsnet is the most sexist place I have ever been, which is saying something.

Absolute hatred of men is widespread here and it's both small minded and unpleasant.

One of the reasons for the Second World was the punitive harsh treatment of Germans at the end of the First World War. There was a determination not to destroy Germany and Germans at the end of the Second World War.There is so much historical evidence against alienating huge groups in society.
Honestly, some comments on here are really dangerous.

There's quite a lot of bitter women on mn. They were probably left by someone and now they hate all men.

Its tedious.

Well as a sex class as a whole, men ARE worse than women. Statistically so. 98% of the sexual and crime that occur is committed by men. And that's not including low level shit.

I've worked in various areas of criminal justice over the years including a sex offender management unit, they included men with friends and family members who had no idea of their crimes or refused to believe it and thought they were lovely.

NAMALT obvs, I have a lovely male partner, and I've met some horrific women, but when I get off the bus late at night I know which sex I'm more wary of. I've come to the conclusion, based on my experience, that as a sex class as a whole, men are cunts.

'NAMALT obvs, I have a lovely male partner, and I've met some horrific women, but when I get off the bus late at night I know which sex I'm more wary of. I've come to the conclusion, based on my experience, that as a sex class as a whole, men are cunts.'

This fits me too.

My - low - opinion of men as a cohort is based on my own experiences.

In the same way that if you have a high opinion of men that will be based on your own experiences.

Both opinions are valid.

This is so true

It is annoying. And when you point out that not all men deserve to be tarred with the same brush you get accused of being a man. 😂

I just roll my eyes now. I have a few really good men in my life, one of whom is my therapist. He is the kindest and most compassionate, respectful person I know. Just judge the people around you, not their sex.

Christ this is the exact misandrist bullshit the OP is talking about.

It's impossible to have a reasonable adult debate with someone who immaturely shouts poor menz at everything 🙄

'Just judge the people around you, not their sex.' Which I essentially have done throughout my life. And a pattern has emerged.

Please stop it mumsnet. Certainly attribute blame where it's genuinely due but stop making these awful assumptions it's unhelpful and nasty.

Fuck no. I hope mumsnet never stops as I didn't realise I was a boiled frog being systemically abused until I came here. Reading all those posts from other women unpicking an OPs relationship, and explaining it all, is the only thing that stopped me from literally killing myself. I'm so close to leaving now and looking forward to having a better, happier life, and it's all thanks to these warrior women.

You want a nicer, man friendly place? Stay on the rest of the Internet - although they do hate women over there.

Perhaps a trip over to Reddit and you can see what men say about us?

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Men feeling alienated is a direct result of their behaviour towards women. The way society works was set up by men.

Men feel alienated when their poor behaviour is pointed out and not accepted.

Is anyone worried about another world war starting because of the way men (as a whole) treat women.

Look how much support the ‘your body, my choice’ slogan got. Men out and out saying to women ‘your body, my choice’. Is that alienating women and risking another world war? And then when individual men have been identified on line and had attention drawn to it, they are the ones being alienated?

Yes there are many negative comments about men. But there are so many of these awful situations, so a lot of bad guys out there.

What I struggle with most is the name calling, assumptions and attacking OPs. People come here to genuinely ask for help. People can disagree but the name calling of both OPs and their partners is awful.

This I do agree with! 🤣

Horrible. You have to think twice before posting here these days.

Give over. Have you never stepped outside your door? Watched TV? Been on a social media? Never been anywhere else on the internet?

The thing is no one actually says it's ALL men. That's where you get the comeback, women describe their valid experiences at the hands of shitty men, and nowhere do they state ALL MEN, and yet you still get the Not My Nigel's popping up and stating 'but it's not all men'. And act surprised when those women get rightly angry.

It's the falling over yourselves to defend men at the merest slight.