Yes. People should protect children. That applies to men as well. Since men set up the society (which you agreed with) they have the most power to protect the kids.
That doesn’t abscond women, who can report just as easily. We aren’t shackled FFS, the information is out there on how to report, even toddlers understand dialling 999, there’s no excuse to ignore abuse. Also it’s BS that men have more power to protect kids when “protecting” is simply reporting abuse. Why shouldn’t the onus be on women who know about men raping children?. I’d report abuse every time - wouldn’t you? I wouldn’t sit and think “Oh but this is men doing it, the onus isn’t on me!”. Would you?
Given men are more likely to be abusers they have more power to stop the abuse. It’s more women’s faults that men abuse. Of course if they know they should report. Both men and women.
Actually it’s the authorities, made up of both men and women, who have duty and power to stop the abuse.
Hoenstly this thinly veiled downplaying of abusive women is fucking me off. And you have the nerve to say women are always blamed, whilst also trying to imply they too powerless to be blamed when they know their husband is raping or torturing a child.
You are putting the onus (or at least equal responsibility) onto women to stop men abusing. Men are in the majority of cases the abuser. Men also hold more weight with authorities. Men are more likely to be listened to.
Right, listen to what you’re saying. Men abuse, and they shouldn’t. Thats a given. And sadly it happens. But that doesn’t mean that when other people, including women (or other men), find out about the abuse, they can just do nothing because “Hey it’s not MY responsibility”. I am putting the onus on ANYONE who knows abuse is happening to stop it. Men OR women. And I disagree that in this day and age men are more likely to be listened to when reporting a child being raped. Everyone would be listened to.
I know you think you’re helping women’s causes but this is sailing too close to abuse not being the problem of anyone but the abuser. Which is an enabling behaviour that meant I was abused for far longer than I needed to be (yes it was her responsibility too and she failed at protecting me). I couldn’t give a flying fuck what someone has between their legs, the nanosecond you know about sexual abuse of a child it’s absolutely your responsibility to try and stop it, wether you want to or not. Do you realise how offensive you’re being to a CSA survivor who had said the wife knew about it and did nothing?
But non of that counts? How many men have to show they are unbothered, unaffected, are aware of other men’s poor behaviour do you need to prove it’s an issue? The fact that you are dismissing it because it doesn’t fit what you want it to doesn’t change it.
What am I dismissing exactly? I’ve said men are a problem. I’ve said individual men can be wonderful and that I don’t like to play in identity politics. How you’ve stretched that to mean I don’t think men are an issue I’ll never know.
All you anecdotes from your female perspective isn’t proof of anything either. Why are you talking over the men, in defence of them?
Im not. Someone asked for examples of men being good and I gave them. You viewing that as me defending men is entirely to do with your own lack of comprehension and nothing to do with me.
I think I’ll have to step away from this thread when it’s turned into a child abuser apologist thread (and yes ignoring sexual abuse of children is child abuse, even if you are a woman).