To think this is an unacceptable wage?

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I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

I think there are useful contributions to the debate.

You didn't answer my question about the pay rate.

As you're in a combative frame of mind, why not ask the agency for more money?

@NigelHarmansNewWife I rest my case.
Wouldn't it be great to have more men on this site to give useful contributions rather than snide/sarky ones?

Re cleaning, my wife currently works as a part time cleaner for a university. Her gross pay is £12 per hour. If this was her second job, her net pay would be less than £9 per hour.

Whereas these are mature, constructive contributions are they?

@Fluufer Indeed. Men are often so much kinder and well-considered than women. It really would be wonderful to have some balance.

There have been considered posts. I think mine were and they aren't the only ones.

@ilovesooty I agree that many have.

Off to reddit you pop then.

I think mine was helpful as well but my positive suggestion was ignored.

@Fgfgfg What do you mean by "ignored"?

And wouldn't it have made more sense to have checked the rate before taking the job?

You've been snarky yourself, in multiple responses.

Oh the irony, not even trying to hide the misogyny now.

If you want more men to advise you try a male dominated forum - that's about 99% of the internet from which to choose.

If you want to spend your time complaining about women on here then you are of course free to do so and anyone else is free to call you on your more ludicrous claims.

Its not the fault of women if your first husband was a shit.

Its not the fault of women that your current husband (and yourself) struggle with managing money and that he refuses to claim benefits to which he may be entitled.

Its not the fault of women that you choose to work part time and to stay on basic scale without additional responsibilities.

Its not the fault of women that you had a third child to support.

Its not the fault of women that you seem to struggle comprehending basic taxation and average and median salaries.

Its also not the fault of those worse off than yourself whom you seem to look down on.

From your posting history some of these events are a consequence of mens' actions. You know those people who are so much better than women.

All workers get holiday pay. Including agency/zero hours workers.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/calculating-holiday-pay-for-workers-without-fixed-hours-or-pay/calculating-holiday-pay-for-workers-without-fixed-hours-or-pay--2

Absolutely 👏👏👏

I’m a teacher too and now supply teachers are paid less but they also do a lot less so they do not planning or thinking on their feet as they must be left planning and no marking.
There’s also none of the assessing, parents eves, staff meeting, INSETs, forms and the endless other tasks that if you were a class teacher you’d have to do so I’m confused why this pay is a shock to you.

@C8H10N4O2

What a fabulous post!

She is a part-time class teacher, she's not happy about that job either.

And sites like MN reiterate to me just why I prefer men to women. They are, in the main, much more decent human beings. Yes you get some nasty ones, but you get some nasty women. I think men are far less bitchy.
But I know so many of you are also men-haters. Probably the same ones going by the title of Mrs at the same time.

In my opinion, you're the one who has been rude, nasty and extremely snobbish on here.

You constantly go on about being a d
Degreed professional, seemingly to indicate that you are better than everyone else .

We have all pointed put to you that the vast majority of us have degrees.

Someone on here talked about how much nannies get paid.

You immediately said snobbishly
"I don't think that's a comparable career".

My friend is a nanny. She has a Degree in Early childhood education. She has lots of experience.

Instead of looking at your own bad behaviour, you then say that everyone else is wrong.

Same, it makes no difference though, if you are paid in cash then it's still treated the same as bank transfer for tax purposes, it really irritates me when people say cash in hand. My DS earns almost all his income cash in hand, he still has to declare it though so he can pay tax and NI.

Quite the feminist aren't you? Wow.

@Lisanoonan No, I don't think being a nanny is a comparable job to a teacher, nor do I think is a cleaner. Neither of these jobs require a degree.
I do think there is very little respect for teachers any more, especially by parents and this filters down to their children. You can clearly see this from this thread, in which supply teachers have been likened to as "babysitters" by some. I suppose that is what some parents see us as.

@Fluufer Yes, Mrs ????.

Dr actually.

HTH. HAND.