Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Sara Sharif case - update - horrifying

1000 replies

amIloud · 13/11/2024 12:21

This case is just beyond the realms of horrifying,

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl461xwg3do

This poor child.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
34
Kendodd · 13/11/2024 15:30

One thing I noticed in the video of them being arrested on the plane arriving in London, they were sat in first class. I do wonder who paid for that.

RooBarbRooBarbara · 13/11/2024 15:33

I hope this bastard is beaten to a pulp every day in prison. No mercy.

Penguinmouse · 13/11/2024 15:35

Absolutely horrific story and another complete failure of family courts to allow this man to have unsupervised contact. How many times do children have to die?

timenowplease · 13/11/2024 15:36

You've really had to scrape the barrel haven't you? Apparently 2 worldwide? and one who's a man and killed because of the caste system.

mathanxiety · 13/11/2024 15:36

Anonymousess · 13/11/2024 14:56

To the posters asking why he had custody of her and not her mother, it is covered here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98e6zle170o

The jury heard that in 2019 Sara was living with her mother Olga Sharif, but then made allegations of neglect and violence against her.
She said her mother was smoking cannabis, not feeding her, leaving her alone with another child and burning her with a lighter.
Mr Sharif recorded the allegations in a video.
This led to a court order that Sara should live with her father and his new wife, Ms Batool.

My opinion is that he might have forced Sara to say those things about her mother to get custody of her? She was probably being burned by a lighter by him - considering what he went on to do.

@Slowgrowingelm @Tandora @Chowtime @TinyGingerCat

Of course the statement was made under duress. How could anyone believe it was genuine? Apart from the stupid family court judge, that is.

JoMumsnet · 13/11/2024 15:37

We're just dropping in to remind you that this is a current trial and as such we will have to remove posts which speculate about the case or those involved. If these posts continue, we will remove the thread.

More information on contempt of court can be found here

Contempt of court

What being in 'contempt of court' means, who can be in contempt of court, what the consequences are, how to report it, how to avoid it on social media (such as Twitter and Facebook).

https://www.gov.uk/contempt-of-court

fedup33 · 13/11/2024 15:37

They all knew, family, relatives, neighbours, school. They all bloody knew and did nothing.

Actually, in some ways this does not surprise me. If somebody else is taking the hatred, the spotlight moves off you.

murasaki · 13/11/2024 15:38

timenowplease · 13/11/2024 15:36

You've really had to scrape the barrel haven't you? Apparently 2 worldwide? and one who's a man and killed because of the caste system.

Do your own googling. I sense a whiff of islamophobia here. And I'm not Muslim. It's extreme and uneducated religion that does this. Not just one faith. Your bigotry is showing.

crumblingschools · 13/11/2024 15:40

@fedup33 school did report it

Fizbosshoes · 13/11/2024 15:41

fedup33 · 13/11/2024 15:37

They all knew, family, relatives, neighbours, school. They all bloody knew and did nothing.

Actually, in some ways this does not surprise me. If somebody else is taking the hatred, the spotlight moves off you.

The school did raise concerns and iirc report to social services
She was removed from school not long afterwards

timenowplease · 13/11/2024 15:41

murasaki · 13/11/2024 15:38

Do your own googling. I sense a whiff of islamophobia here. And I'm not Muslim. It's extreme and uneducated religion that does this. Not just one faith. Your bigotry is showing.

How dare you accuse me of being a bigot.

You'd like to make it so this is an equal opportunity crime but we all know it's not. I asked you for statistics and you don't have any. You found two odd cases worldwide.

murasaki · 13/11/2024 15:44

This wasn't an honour killing, it's child abuse. So your requests for stats on the above is questionable at best. Briefly indulged you. You also have Google.

Greatandsmall · 13/11/2024 15:47

I think the death penalty would be too kind. He needs to have done to him what he did to that little girl. Tie him up, beat him, slap him, burn him.

timenowplease · 13/11/2024 15:49

murasaki · 13/11/2024 15:44

This wasn't an honour killing, it's child abuse. So your requests for stats on the above is questionable at best. Briefly indulged you. You also have Google.

I'm well aware what this case is about. You're the one making baseless claims. You're getting snippy because you can't back them up.

And please, don't demean yourself to 'indulge me' again. I have no wish to engage with lying hate mongers spreading mis-information.

MatildaTheCat · 13/11/2024 15:50

Kendodd · 13/11/2024 15:30

One thing I noticed in the video of them being arrested on the plane arriving in London, they were sat in first class. I do wonder who paid for that.

I imagine it’s possible that the airline were well aware of the arrests and may have moved them to an area with more space/ fewer people to facilitate a swift removal from the flight.

I really hope they weren’t indulging in first class food and drinks on the flight itself.

Dutchesss · 13/11/2024 15:51

My heart breaks for what Sara had to endure. Her death would have been freedom for her. I'm happy she can't be hurt anymore and I'm terrified for all the Sara's out there who are still enduring. Why are these monsters walking among us? How can a human be so cruel?

Greyrocked · 13/11/2024 15:51

I had missed that his wife wasn't Sara's mother. Did he normally have custody?

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 13/11/2024 15:53

fedup33 · 13/11/2024 15:24

Why didn't they respond? They are culpable

It reminds me of the hairdresser of Arthur Labinjo-Jones' step mother, who could see he was being abused and starved and did NOTHING!
Utterly selfish. How could they sleep at night.

fashionqueen0123 · 13/11/2024 15:54

Slowgrowingelm · 13/11/2024 13:05

This. In a case like this surely the police have powers to take the cast?

I don’t know the back story concerning the father having custody. I seriously doubt the mother could have possibly been a worse option for custody.

I read that sometimes the children were with a foster carer. God knows why they thought he was suitable to be handed the children back to.
And yes we don’t know why they were taken off the mother.

oh just seen an update someone posted about that. Well that sounds reliable - a video made by the father!!

Thebellofstclements · 13/11/2024 15:56

daretodenim · 13/11/2024 13:59

I can assure you it is not religion that makes men beat women and children - and rape them too. Don't give them the luxury of that escape route. They alone are responsible. Men of all religions and none are more than happy to make women and children suffer. Nothing to do with any of the religions.

I guess you're aware of the Archbishop of Canterbury resigning and why? I assume you're not talking about men who follow that religion, right?

Religion is not what causes men to abuse. It only offers a shield. Don't give it to them.

These kinds of actions are definitely more acceptable in some cultures more than others. For him to say "that's not a slap" shows just how much physical violence he is used to. That comes from a culture that condones violence by fully grown men towards vulnerable parties. Absolutely horrific.

StMarie4me · 13/11/2024 15:57

Mumlaplomb · 13/11/2024 12:40

It’s so awful I couldn’t read it in full. Glad he’s admitted it now though.

Still pleading not guilty to murder tho 😡

fedup33 · 13/11/2024 16:01

crumblingschools · 13/11/2024 15:40

@fedup33 school did report it

Yes, then the poor wee kid left and nobody bothered.

Mainoo72 · 13/11/2024 16:02

Denying that a misogynistic culture played a part here is unhelpful. It has to be acknowledged & recognised so that other abused children can be appropriately identified & helped. We mustn’t be afraid of saying it.

Slapping & beating children is accepted & the norm in some families from certain cultures.

fedup33 · 13/11/2024 16:03

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 13/11/2024 15:53

It reminds me of the hairdresser of Arthur Labinjo-Jones' step mother, who could see he was being abused and starved and did NOTHING!
Utterly selfish. How could they sleep at night.

Edited

Monsters. Really. Chatting over a cut and blow dry? And the relatives that all come out when the dollar appears.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread