Sara Sharif case - update - horrifying

[amIloud]

This case is just beyond the realms of horrifying,

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl461xwg3do

This poor child.

That they did fuck all about it haunts me.

I'm not sure why you're just replying to me.

Why are you not replying to all the other posters on here, who are saying that particular types of abuse of women and girls happen in certain religions. ?

Time to being back the death penalty. I am well versed in all the legal, moral, religious and sociological arguments against it. I’d still re-ínstate it.

Poor wee sara. I feel so sad. All she could have done with her life.

He has 5 other children.
If his partner isn’t convicted then he may feel she stands a good chance of keeping the children with her (4 are her children - one is a baby, 2 with special needs) and keeping them together.
If she is also convicted and imprisoned then potentially they will be split and housed in foster care or children’s’ home.

Well much as I'm not convinced by state care necessarily, I'm also not convinced that staying with her is a great idea.

Yes that seems to be what happened. . But the court were all too ready to believe it weren’t they?
why is that?
why did they follow a recording made by the dad? Where were the accusations of parental alienation and manipulation against him? When women try to protect their children from abusive men, theses are the accusations they face .

It doesn’t sound like the other two (wife/brother) are safe to be near children.

This might sound horrible but would he be able to successfully say he committed manslaughter as opposed to murder?

I’m just thinking about his confession where he said he hit her as a form of discipline but didn’t intend to kill her. I think logically with the level of injury she received, any person inflicting that injury would surely realise death is imminent. What a horrible job for the jury in this case to decide.

There was an article in the Independent today, as part of their domestic violence series, about how two girls had expressed a desire to live with their mother, were sent to their allegedly abusive father, and smashed a first floor window, jumped out and ran away. They were 11 and 13, old enough for their views to he taken into account, but they weren't.

Honour killing do not happen in all religions. Stop telling lies.

It might be fairer to say that they happen in extreme versions of all religions.

Would you like to name the religions you have issues with? There seems to be a few…. And which particular religion are you assuming other posters belong to? Come on put your big girl pants on and say what you actually mean.

And it’s a good idea to check your posts don’t come across as racist, or potential hate speech, otherwise you will get called out on it.

Might it?

Can you provide some statistics to back this up?

Why didn't they respond? They are culpable

www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj7pm98j94o

This man's habit of vicious violence was known to police.

Why is it not possible to join the dots when a man's violence against women is already known?

@Tandora I think the difficulty comes from the fact it was Sara’s own word against her mother. I don’t doubt that she was coerced into saying those things but her mother likely didn’t have the means to defend herself against the allegations.

Yes , poor poor wee girl.

The poor kid was already in foster care from about age 2. Mother was deemed unfit with neglect and reports of physical abuse. The father probably seemed the most stable of the two at some point.
I thought there was also a full older brother that father also had custody. Did the other children all get left in Pakistan?
It's a shocking mess with terrible abuse being done to a little girl by those who should have loved and protected her.

Two words - male privilege.

And another few words - bias against women, aka misogyny.

If you read: 'A child called It' it's a good explanation if how one child can be scapegoated.

No, but here are a couple of Christian examples

https://www.ncronline.org/news/so-called-honor-killing-catholic-family-shocks-indian-state

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/18/an-israeli-christian-killed-his-daughter-because-of-her-love-for-a-muslim-police-say/

I know south Asian boys and girls who were taught that dating as a teenager and having romantic relationships is extremely sinful.

Anyway it's irrelevant to this case which is about horrific child abuse.

They are living in the home of the man who raised a monster

This is horrific.