Sara Sharif case - update - horrifying

[amIloud]

This case is just beyond the realms of horrifying,

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl461xwg3do

This poor child.

i think the dad ( hate even calling him that as he was no dad to that poor little girl) will get found guilty of murder and the other two will be found to be culpable as they did fuck all to protect her. Everytime I see a photo of her sweet little face I feel such grief for her suffering.

Am I right in thinking there is no law in this country to make adults culpable if they don’t report concerns about a child? I’m sure I read years ago that if a child for example was drowning it’s not illegal to stand there doing fuck all about it.

You are right it is horrific.

When I first read about the hoods I wondered if it was so Sara didn't see who was abusing her?

I think the use of the nappy was that she was restrained for so long it was in lieu of being able to visit the toilet.😟

Is there a need to go over all the horrific details.

Why do we have to look at all these details of torture in depth.

I should think so. BB not providing dental impressions implicates her (as everyone else was eliminated), the uniform in bin means the uncle cannot claim he didn't know etc

Then judge said them not appearing means the jury may make the proper inference.

What does that mean? Their side wouldn't stand up to scrutiny??

If I was a jurors I would feel deeply suspicious if someone didn't stand up and defend themselves?
I also wish the sister who had all those messages has some punitive measures even a fine she herd about abuse and did absolutely nothing and she could have done it anonymously from afar as well.

I dreading the light sentences.

I agree, I think that sister should be jailed too.
I think they should all be made to be cross examined.

I'm amazed they are allowed not to be?
After what this poor victim went through?

A defendant has the right to remain silent and is allowed not to testify in court. It's not for them to prove that they didn't commit the crime, its for the prosecution to provide the evidence to show that they did commit it. However by not testifying it does permit a jury to use that in their decision as to whether guilty or not. The judge's summing up & directions to the jury will explain it all to them I expect.

This shows the step mother was vulnerable - no excuse for her behaviour. It seems she was a victim of honour based abuse and in a refuge at one point as a teen.

karmanirvana.org.uk/news-item/trial-for-sara-sharif-case-continue-with-hba-referenced-in-defence/

The trial resumes tomorrow at 11am and the each barrister will provide their closing speeches.

Who knows what the sentencing guidelines are but I hope there are long and stringent sentences for all those involved

I’ve assumed her spinal injuries may have been the cause.

Just horrific.

I know the lawyers have to do their jobs and no critisim of them, but I wonder what they can possibly say in their defence?

The prosecution have to have proved the charges beyond reasonable doubt.

Plenty of evidence against the father ( and a confession) and stepmother. But little has been shared in court against the uncle, afaik. His defence could maybe argue he was at college and work etc . And also whilst the father admits beating her he says he did not intend to kill her so his defence might try for manslaughter rather than murder.

The fact that the uncle has not testified as a witness means that his defence (if any) has not been subjected to cross examination. Which potentially works in his favour if he is claiming to have been out in the day, working until after the kids went to bed etc.

The defendants do not have to prove innocence, the prosecution have to prove guilt.

Is there a need to go into all the gory details?

Did you mean to quote me?

I would like to see the death penalty for all three of those bastards. Failing that, lock them up in a cold, rat-infested prison (preferably with some other prisoners who know what they did) for the rest of their utterly pointless lives. Scum.

Same here. I am fuming.

So the female refused to have her teeth mold taken. How is she even allowed to refuse? Evil bitch.

I really can’t comprehend how people can do this to any living being, let alone their daughter .

Sara’s mother is classed as vulnerable, she had joint custody of Sara and Sara’s brother but somehow he put an end to it without even having to get full custody. The immigration aspects of this case is a whole other can of worms …

Social services were aware of his previous abuse of partners and children, he was only allowed to have shared custody because of Batool, who is clearly also a monster. Sara was half polish which may have set off and increased the jealousy and the abuse ( there’s elements of internalised racism and misogyny in parts of the world that you have to experience to fully comprehend).

The school had made referrals. Neighbours heard all sorts of horrible noises. I just don’t understand how many people have to fail at doing their jobs and also just being decent human beings to allow this to happen for so long. He dares cry crocodile tears ? Why does he have so many children ? I wish I could erase this case from my mind.

She was washed using a jet wash and dressed in clean clothes after she died, which leads me to wonder about what evidence they were trying to clear away.

I think the brother and step mother are more involved than it appears, but the father wants to save his brother, he knows the evidence is pretty overwhelming and maybe he wants to salvage something or maybe he has made some kind of deal with his brother and wife.

All three are culpable and I hope they rot in jail. I don’t think any punishment is sufficient. I can’t stop feeling sad for her and all the other children of this family and other victims of abuse. Why have children if you don’t like them ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c789qx3zyzwo

Just unfathomably heartbreaking.

every news update is more distressing
i have wept bitter tears for this girl more than once.

I just do not understand how a human can do this to another person… let alone a child… let alone their own child.

calling it abuse is so minimising- it’s torture
systematic and sustained psychological and physical torture.

I pray the 3 of them never know another days peace for the rest of their lives.