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Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

OP posts:
MillyMichaelson · 11/11/2024 21:50

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 11/11/2024 21:20

I’ve reported this thread.

On a site where many women are victims of actual domestic abuse, to use a thread to slag off someone for her actions over 30 years ago, and to take away from the topic of domestic violence is disgusting.

As for the poster who compared Camilla to a paedophile, they should be banned.

Oh, stop. She wasn't saying Camilla is akin to a paedophile, she was drawing a parallel between the two people by trying to highlight what they see as an absurdity.

And you know it, so why up the drama and make out like she's saying the queen as good as abuses children.

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 11/11/2024 21:50

This thread is bonkers.

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 21:50

Camilla started quietly campaigning for the victims of domestic violence after one of her friends was a victim herself.

The two most vociferous anti Camilla posters appear to have joined MN today. Funny that.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/11/2024 21:50

Good grief @Sylviacrystal , Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seat belt and was being driven too fast by a drunk driver .
A sad accident .

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 21:51

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 11/11/2024 21:50

This thread is bonkers.

Dont forget the Fiat Uno...

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:51

Wendolino · 11/11/2024 21:48

No, because she THOUGHT he was having an affair. Diana's own grandmother said that she was given to wild flights of fancy and that in hindsight, she herself shouldn't have encouraged her granddaughter's marriage to Charles.

Incorrect again. Diana found romantic gifts between charles and camilla at that stage.

She also found a photograph of camilla that Charles kept in his diary.

How exactly was Diana having flights of fancy, when charles was having an affair with camilla?

The grandmother you are talking about was a cruel old woman. She testified against her own daughter, (Diana's mother) in the custody case, because Diana's father had more money and power

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:52

Mylovelygreendress · 11/11/2024 21:50

Good grief @Sylviacrystal , Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seat belt and was being driven too fast by a drunk driver .
A sad accident .

So how come Diana wrote a note saying

"They are planning a crash in my car"

WhatMe123 · 11/11/2024 21:53

Doesn't she support domestic violent services? Sounds like a good idea to me

Ger1atricMillennial · 11/11/2024 21:54

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:41

No it was before that.

Diana said in her book that Charles was still seeing camilla, while Diana was engaged to charles. Before Diana and charles got married

Diana said she wanted to call off the wedding, but everyone told her it was too late.

OK but was he faithful to her after they got married? I appreciate the bar is low, and she would have been very stressed about them especially given her home situation, but this isn't even close to abuse.

As much as I think that C&C behaved badly, they obviously have an enduring loving and respectful partnership that improves their lives.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:54

Mylovelygreendress · 11/11/2024 21:50

Good grief @Sylviacrystal , Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seat belt and was being driven too fast by a drunk driver .
A sad accident .

Isn't that what they'd want you to think?

Diana wrote a note saying that she believed someone was going to plan a crash in her car

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 21:56

I can't believe we've got this far into a thread about C&C and nobody has mentioned tampons yet!

Genevieva · 11/11/2024 21:57

MoonWoman69 · 11/11/2024 21:27

For a start, no Camilla is not Queen... She is and should be titled Queen Consort. Because that is what she is.
I have not been a royalist for many years, I have no time for them. But I do quite like Camilla.
And if domestic violence is a cause she chooses to support and a programme is made about it, which is including her support, then who gives a shit who she is and what she's done? Does it really matter if it's her or some celebrity female?
I'm sick of all this holier than thou postulation. Camilla and Charles should have been allowed to marry in the beginning. As for Diana, she was chosen for him purely because of her lineage. He didn't love her, he never did. It was to provide heirs to the throne and that is all. She was young and inexperienced when she became engaged then married. And as time went on, she didn't get the attention she'd have expected from her husband.
In affairs, it takes two to tango, she didn't force anyone to sleep with her! It truly pisses me off when people never blame the other party imvolved.
Anyway I digressed there, good on Camilla for the campaign, let her get on with it!

The title is Queen. The type of Queen is consort. Never in English history have we titled the wife of the Monarch Queen Consort.

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 21:58

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 21:56

I can't believe we've got this far into a thread about C&C and nobody has mentioned tampons yet!

The opening post quashed any talk of periods.

5128gap · 11/11/2024 21:58

If it gets people watching and discussing a documentary that gives a voice to survivors, and raises awareness to help other women escape, they could bring on the devil in a frock and tiara for all I care.

chipsaway · 11/11/2024 21:59

really??
nit sure the point of the post to be honest

OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 21:59

doodleygirl · 11/11/2024 21:06

Educate yourself OP, she has been involved with domestic abuse charities for many years, she is not fronting this programme just because she is the Queen.

No need to educate myself, I'm well aware of Camilla's involvement in domestic abuse charities and always felt the hypocrisy.

Charles had a choice, leave Diana, end the marriage. Hardly a man of integrity. Camilla had the option to decline his approaches until he divorced, she didn't and instead rubbed Diana's nose in it.

The passage of time does not make their actions any less grievous.

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OrwellianTimes · 11/11/2024 21:59

What a vile thread. Infidelity is not the same as domestic abuse.

Well done to her for educating herself and using her position to raise awareness. Whatever the sordid details of the past love affairs were.

LuluBlakey1 · 11/11/2024 21:59

Diana had several relationships with married or attached men-
A four year affair with married art dealer Oliver Hoare- when he ended it she made over 300 anonymous, traced by the police phone calls to his home and hundreds more before his wife involved the police and they began tracing them. His wife was terrified of who it might be.
An affair with Will Carling who was married and whose wife, Julia, faced phone calls to the house and Press picking up on the affair and staked out the house and her husband to catch him and Diana. It broke up the marriage.
An affair with James Gilbey who was in a relationship and engaged at the time.
A relationship with Dodi Fayed who was engaged to be married.

Camilla's husband, Andrew Parker Bowles had affairs from the start of his marriage to Camilla.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 22:02

LuluBlakey1 · 11/11/2024 21:59

Diana had several relationships with married or attached men-
A four year affair with married art dealer Oliver Hoare- when he ended it she made over 300 anonymous, traced by the police phone calls to his home and hundreds more before his wife involved the police and they began tracing them. His wife was terrified of who it might be.
An affair with Will Carling who was married and whose wife, Julia, faced phone calls to the house and Press picking up on the affair and staked out the house and her husband to catch him and Diana. It broke up the marriage.
An affair with James Gilbey who was in a relationship and engaged at the time.
A relationship with Dodi Fayed who was engaged to be married.

Camilla's husband, Andrew Parker Bowles had affairs from the start of his marriage to Camilla.

We've already said that.

So is your point - that it is bad for people to have affairs

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 22:03

steff13 · 11/11/2024 21:49

Maybe, but not the most efficient way to kill someone, considering she likely would have lived if she'd been wearing her seatbelt.

We've been told that she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Was there any proof of that.

Diana's sister sarah said that Diana religiously wore a seatbelt, that she never travelled anywhere without putting her seatbelt on

ChitterChatter1987 · 11/11/2024 22:03

GiraffesAtThePark · 11/11/2024 20:25

How was she complicit? I get being the OW is not sisterly but I don’t see how she’s responsible for anything Charles did.

Well she is with him now,knowing how he treated Diana....so she is condoning abusive people by being with one!

FKAT · 11/11/2024 22:03

You're right OP. ITV should definitely seek a high profile woman of unimpeachably pure character to host a domestic violence documentary. Let's shelve it until they find one.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2024 22:04

YABU and very weird @OWRLOSERS.Confused

She is the queen. ITV didn't choose her. She's doing an amazing job of highlighting and amplifying the damage done by domestic violence.

comedycentral · 11/11/2024 22:04

I think she probably has a platform among an age demographic of women who might traditionally hide abuse and never report it or seek support. Someone with a platform like hers can only shine a spotlight on an important issue and potentially lead to support for people.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 22:06

A woman said to me earlier this year, when talking about kate,

She said

"I'll aways be convinced that the royal family killed diana".

I think there's a good few people that think this way