Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

#notmyqueen

I wish more people would stand up to the royal family in England.

I saw videos of people shouting at the king of spain (after the floods in valencia).

And the king took it and answered back. They talked to the king like he was a human with flaws

They don't fawn over the royal family like many people do in the UK. Camilla is just an old biddy that was a side piece. I wouldn't respect her

Well we don’t know how long she was concerned about it behind the scenes do we ?
The fact that the programme was made and is being discussed is surely a good thing ?
Even if she has “ only “ been involved for 10/12 years so what ? She is highlighting DA .
Surely better than flitting from cause to cause spouting word salad !!

They had a nasty shock last week when their scandalous rip off of the public was exposed by channel 4 and the Times. I suppose they're trying to plaster over the gaping holes in their images.

Is there a timeline for when we expect to see the findings and results of all these experts convening? If they are just siting there because William is there, then its useless. Kate has spent 10 years on her early childhood project and every 5 years we see a rudimentary pie chart produced. What results have been achieved, and how are they going to do it? If something comes out of these projects, great. But if they are just vehicles for people to sit around with Prince William, then what's the point of wasting the time of these experts?

In less than a week? The domestic abuse film was a year in the making, before all the editing time.

Exactly.

As far as the programme last night hypocracy filled the air and it was merely to promote Camilla. Not all abuse leaves bruises. Princess Diana was put in an intolerable position by her entitled and selfish husband.

HRH Queen Elizabeth 2nd said before she died Camilla was to be called Queen Consort NOT Queen Camilla but Charles ignored her after death.

Funny how some (on Mumsnet particularly) seem to have a short memory.

HRH Queen Elizabeth 2nd said before she died Camilla was to be called Queen Consort NOT Queen Camilla but Charles ignored her after death.

How many times does this have to be explained, I will say it again so you can understand

Every single Queen throughout history who is married to a King is Queen Consort. Queen Consort is a job title, recent examples
Queen Mary, Queen Consort
Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Queen Consort.
It’s the same for males who marry a Queen Regnant
The Duke of Edinburgh was Prince Consort.
None of them are called Consort it’s Queen/Prince name.

Thank you @OWRLOSERS I knew I'd heard that somewhere, re Queen consort! She would be a Queen if she had been through the coronation process, but as she is only married to the king, she hasn't, so she isn't a true Queen. Prince Philip was never a King, it's exactly the same.

https://www.royalhistorygeeks.com/the-five-different-types-of-queen/

This article explains for the posters who don’t understand.

Queen Consort
This is the most common kind of Queen in history. The wife of a King. In the British system, she is ‘Her Majesty the Queen’ and signs ‘R’ for ‘Regina’ after her name – exactly as a Queen Regnant would.

She would be a Queen if she had been through the coronation process

She did. She was crowned in Westminster Abbey at the same ceremony as the King.

This thread just gets better and better

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I am going to say this loudly and proudly. I like Camilla. It takes a real strength of character to face up to all the very public criticism she's had thrown at her for 20+ years (as well as navigating her role with her husband and his 2 children). She serves this country well and with dignity.

Everyone in the royal family has faced up to criticism though.
Remember how much criticism Diana went through, how much criticism fergie went through, how much criticism they all went through

Nothing of the sort.

i was responding to specific posts at various points along the thread, which I thought needed correction or expansion.

I think the work of both the Queen and the Duchess of Edinburgh is admirable against DV, other VAWG, FGM and rape as a tool of war.

And I am always pleased when it gets some prime time coverage, as these important issues that rarely get coverage.

And I don’t think the motivation is anything as transient as PR management (the RF is on totally different timelines anyhow) as there is longevity to their support, and the start of a level of knowledge, even expertise, that you only get from involvement that is counted in decades. Though of course they aren’t in their roles as experts - they are supporting and showcasing the experts and drawing attention to the issues, the victims (notably Sophie’s recent visit) and those who work to counter the violence.

Another example of the hypocrisy of the RF. Charles was abusive to Diana. Queen Camilla may not have been responsible but you can bet she's not going onto the programme saying, "my husband, an example of an abuser..."

Same way that the RF are poor and opportunistic landlords. But naturally they think the are the bastian of high moral standing.

Meh. Frankly I could care less given Diana was.a vile human being in her own right who had not an ounce of sympathy or empathy for the women whose husbands she slept with.

Aside from that, all this happened 40 years ago. most of the people posting in outrage here weren’t even born then. In fact there will be quite a few who weren’t even born when Diana died, but in typical virtual signalling manner have taken on a cause they know absolutely nothing about.

And to compare Camilla being the other woman where clearly the marriage shouldn’t have happened in the first place, where they were clearly mismatched, and have now ended up with the people they were meant to with domestic violence where women are often beaten, hospitalised, murdered by their partners is fucking offensive.

The difference between Charles and Diana’s affairs is that while were both wrong, Charles’ carried on with an affair with a woman he actually loved, who he should have married in the first place. Whereas Diana slept with anyone’s husband purely because she could. Because she was an expert manipulator. Because she thought she should be seen as something special. So if you’re looking to judge women for being the OW, the worst of the two was most definitely Diana.

You obviously didn't know her as others did.

What Charles and the Royal family did to her was appalling and should not be forgotten or excused away with time or pathetic excuses such as 'Charles’ carried on with an affair with a woman he actually loved' - imagine if a woman like Diana came on the relationships thread and revealed just how she had been treated by her husband ...and mistress. There would be calls to lynch him never mind LTB.

Double standards. Charles has always been an entitled creep and Diana was totally exploited by the Royals. She did more to catapult them back into a positive limelight than anyone.

Camilla was exceedingly cruel and calculated as far as Diana was concerned. Is it any surprise due to the abuse, neglect of her husband and total trauma she suffered she acted so appallingly or is everyone saying it is fine for men to behave like utter shits in their marriage but a different rule for women?

Yes - stayed from the off. 5 years (and we’re now about 1 year in)

Nope. Diana was responsible for her own conduct. Or do you think Will Carling’s wife should have blamed Camilla for the fact Dianna shagged her husband.

The only ones guilty of double standards are the ones treating Diana like some sort of saintly victim while Camilla was the devil. When Diana’s behaviour was significantly worse than Camilla’s.

I bet if Diana was still alive and did a documentary on dv people would be praising her to the hilt rather than accusing her of hypocrisy given the number of times she’d been the OW.

Diana died in 1997.

So anyone over 28 years old was alive when she died.

A lot of women in mumsnet are in their 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s and we remember it all!

I remember the long charles, Diana and Camilla shitshow in the 1990s.

40 years ago is incorrect anyway. A big part of the charles/camilla/Diana triangle happened in the 1990s, which was 30 years ago.

The affair is thought to have started in 1986 so nearer 40 years ago than 30 if we want to be pedantic.

So they were clearly meant to be a couple if nearly 40 years on they're still together!

Yes but why talk about when it just started.

A lot of the main explosive events happened in the 1990s.

In the 1990s -
Diana released a book, it mentioned Charles and Camillas affair.
Charles did a documentary admitting adultery.
Diana did an interview saying " there were three of us in the marriage."
Charles and Diana separated, and then divorced.

They all happened in the 1990s