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Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

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Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 23:39

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:35

How is it for her own benefit when people like you are ripping her apart?

It's to try to improve her image.

It hasn't worked for me or the OP. But it might improve her image in some other people's minds

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:42

She's been campaigning for the victims of domestic violence for years. She carries on despite people like you.

Hazelnutwhirl · 11/11/2024 23:43

I am with op, can’t stand Camilla, she was complicit in the emotional abuse of Diana, she was carrying on with Charles whilst he was engaged and Diana was only 19. Camilla is only supporting domestic violence to make her self look good.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 23:44

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:42

She's been campaigning for the victims of domestic violence for years. She carries on despite people like you.

And yet she committed cruelty and abuse herself.

People don't forget.

And people also don't forget that she hired a pr team to improve her bad image

Keleshey · 11/11/2024 23:45

Is it a full moon?

I actually think Camilla is far better suited to Charles than Diana ever was, but what I think is irrelevant, they're together and seemingly happily married. Quite frankly I find it madness that anyone gives a shit about something that happened so long ago, especially when the situation clearly isn't black and white with wrongdoing from all parties involved.

I think it's fantastic that Camilla is using her profile to highlight the abuse and violence against women and girls. I've heard one of her speeches on the topic before and she came across as very passionate about the subject. The more people speaking out the better.

PickAChew · 11/11/2024 23:45

There are people on this thread who remind me why I have the Royal family topic blocked.

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:45

'And yet she committed cruelty and abuse herself.'

Don't be so utterly crass and ridiculous.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 23:46

Hazelnutwhirl · 11/11/2024 23:43

I am with op, can’t stand Camilla, she was complicit in the emotional abuse of Diana, she was carrying on with Charles whilst he was engaged and Diana was only 19. Camilla is only supporting domestic violence to make her self look good.

That's what I feel was so bad about it.

They took advantage of and abused Diana, precisely because she was young and innocent. They were ten years older than her.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 23:48

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:45

'And yet she committed cruelty and abuse herself.'

Don't be so utterly crass and ridiculous.

What are your thoughts on what @hazelnutwhirl just said :

"I am with op, can’t stand Camilla, she was complicit in the emotional abuse of Diana, she was carrying on with Charles whilst he was engaged and Diana was only 19. Camilla is only supporting domestic violence to make her self look good."

Gorgonemilezola · 11/11/2024 23:53

Charles and Diana should not have married. Diana had several extra marital affairs, causing grief to several women who she quite obviously didn't give a thought to, but appears to have been canonised by some. Relationships are complex. Charles and Camilla seem well suited. Camilla's work to highlight the plight of victims of dv is to be applauded.

Corey28 · 12/11/2024 00:06

If having an affair with a man constituted abusing the wife then many bitter wives would have pursued the ow legally....but it's never happened because it isn't abuse.

Camilla isn't an abuser! Honestly. It takes away from the seriousness of abuse when people make ridiculous claims.

TofuTart · 12/11/2024 00:09

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 20:54

She's the poster girl for side chicks everywhere. Impossible to like either her or Charlie sadly.

Fully agree with OP.

Same

BMW6 · 12/11/2024 00:17

The use of the term "side chicks" is bringing to mind images of sweaty fat 60+ year old men with comb-overs and terrible teeth leering at girls 40 years too young for them.

Have we been invaded by these creeps?

TofuTart · 12/11/2024 00:20

BMW6 · 12/11/2024 00:17

The use of the term "side chicks" is bringing to mind images of sweaty fat 60+ year old men with comb-overs and terrible teeth leering at girls 40 years too young for them.

Have we been invaded by these creeps?

Edited

Was fully agreeing with the comment, wouldn't have used the word chick myself (prefer OW) but the sentiment I agree with.
🙄 at "somebody didn't speak lady like enough, must be a man" - par for the cause on MN.

TofuTart · 12/11/2024 00:23

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 23:46

That's what I feel was so bad about it.

They took advantage of and abused Diana, precisely because she was young and innocent. They were ten years older than her.

That's what doesn't sit right with me either when it comes to them.

vegaspot · 12/11/2024 00:29

Camilla has always been a defender for women involvedin DM ..am not a fan of the RF but she has been very consistent about this cause.

Snugglemonkey · 12/11/2024 00:33

OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

If the queen had formerly been a perpetrator of dv, I would understand this. But she wasn't and you are being ridiculous.

Anisty · 12/11/2024 00:35

I thought she came across very well in the programme. In fact, it changed my view on her a bit.

I never liked her or knew much about her but she seemed genuinely interested and empathetic. I actually think she connected with 'Natalie' in a way that QE2 would not have been able to.

JudgeJ · 12/11/2024 00:41

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:49

I mean having an affair with a married man , is obviously emotional abuse to the wife, Diana.

So let's be clear, Camilla has been abusive to someone.

Edited

Diana played the saint but didn't act like one.

JudgeJ · 12/11/2024 00:48

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 21:02

I’m sure Julia Carling took enormous comfort from that. 🙄

And the others, wasn't there an art dealer, Oliver Hoare I think. Is it not time to put away the myth of Diana, many people in that messy situation didn't come out well but why is only 1 person getting the blame?

Snugglemonkey · 12/11/2024 00:51

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:15

She's not queen in a lot of people's eyes.

I think a lot of people think

Charles could have married any of the women he was having an affair with. It jsut happened to be her"

Any of his side chicks could have been queen

Edited

Maybe. But this woman is his wife of 20 years and she has been crowned. So she is queen.

Snugglemonkey · 12/11/2024 00:55

MoonWoman69 · 11/11/2024 21:27

For a start, no Camilla is not Queen... She is and should be titled Queen Consort. Because that is what she is.
I have not been a royalist for many years, I have no time for them. But I do quite like Camilla.
And if domestic violence is a cause she chooses to support and a programme is made about it, which is including her support, then who gives a shit who she is and what she's done? Does it really matter if it's her or some celebrity female?
I'm sick of all this holier than thou postulation. Camilla and Charles should have been allowed to marry in the beginning. As for Diana, she was chosen for him purely because of her lineage. He didn't love her, he never did. It was to provide heirs to the throne and that is all. She was young and inexperienced when she became engaged then married. And as time went on, she didn't get the attention she'd have expected from her husband.
In affairs, it takes two to tango, she didn't force anyone to sleep with her! It truly pisses me off when people never blame the other party imvolved.
Anyway I digressed there, good on Camilla for the campaign, let her get on with it!

Every other wife of the king has just been known as queen whoever.

RainbowSnake · 12/11/2024 01:13

I think it’s absolutely batshit to claim that an affair is abuse. It’s shitty behaviour, and abuse could definitely accompany it, but it’s not abuse in and of itself. I have no time for the Royal Family but I’m happy to see anybody using their profile to highlight how much of an issue DV is.

Seasmoke · 12/11/2024 06:07

GiveusatwirlAnthea · 11/11/2024 23:11

You are not pointing it out at all, you are coming up with ridiculous suggestions to an incredibly complex issue.

The fact that homelessness is a complex issue means that really it shouldn't be left to Royalty. It needs proper solutions and money ( just like early childhood), not Royals tinkering and pretending it's their ' life's work' when they are not doing anything effective. Camilla talking about domestic violence highlights a criminal act which affects every section of society and may encourage victims, perhaps older or more middle/upper class victims too to come forward or relatives to question what is happening. William not spending any of his substantial fortune sorting out his own backyard and his own properties, not revealing his taxes ( when that money would go into a pot that is used to treat some of the causes of homelessness via the NHS and housing) and taking money from charities is different. Everyone goes mad with praise when William does a minimal thing but no one questions whether what he is doing is useful or effective. Just like Earthshot, which spent more on glitzy events than it did on prizes last time we were told. The press woukd rather talk about the one outfit a year William may reuse rather than his wifes enormous collection of remarkably similar clothes in slightly different shades or patterns, or the enormous carbon footprint of his family. The problem with Royalty pretending they care about complex issues is that gives the powerful an excuse to sit with Prince William or Kate and nod and pretend they are doing something but no one will scrutinise the actual effectiveness of any of these things because when it comes to the Royals, no one does. I actually think they should go off like old fashioned Royals an shake hands and cut ribbons and visit patronages. Preferably not while ripping off the NHS and charities.

tuvamoodyson · 12/11/2024 07:00

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 20:39

She’s not hosting a documentary. The film is about a year of her life and as a longstanding supporter of abuse charities it’s inevitable that it would include her work with them. The more the issue has a light shone on it the better.

Are you ‘apoplectic’ (how very dramatic!) over Diana’s affairs??