To dislike the increase in dogs in shops/cafes

[amymel2016]

I’ve recently noticed a huge increase in non-service dogs in cafes and shops. I was in Joules earlier today and there were 3 in there, two of which were barking and growling at each other. I was in a cafe last week with 2 in there. Surely it can’t be fun for the dog having to sit under a cramped table?

I’m very allergic to dogs and the smell absolutely sets me on edge. I don’t understand why they are allowed in? I’m not about to walk in with a cat or a rabbit so why dogs? It’s also the attitude of most (sweeping generalisation!) dog owners which annoys me, no, I don’t want to talk to your dog or about your dog. I don’t care if you say he’s friendly I don’t want it anywhere near me.

Goes without saying that service dogs are bloody amazing and they should absolutely be welcome everywhere.

But is he a working dog? I have a healthy respect for those - but still shouldn't be in public indoor spaces unless serving a need.

Garden centres seem to accept dogs even if they sell food. One near me has a large section selling cakes/biscuits/general groceries and this week there were three dogs all sniffing round the food items. Dogs are also welcome in the cafe.

Nobody mentioned deodorant. I said perfume and aftershave. Even deodorant can be perfume free.

There is literally no reason for anyone to wear perfume or aftershave, other than that they like it.

People do things they like doing which are not banned. It’s simply normal behaviour.

He would have been. But he had a dodgy back paw with only 2 pads formed on it. It never hindered him but they couldn't use him on the farm. He did love fly ball and agility in his youth though

But so what? Even if that were the case, why is it this random woman's job to try and get my kid to like dogs? We see her in the park and she comes over and is weirdly insistent. It's like she's offended that people exist in the world who don't like dogs.

I never used to hate dogs before they started being everywhere and jumping up at my tiny children.

Was it an open kitchen type of place?

So tell the restaurant and shop owners.

If it’s allowed, people will do it.

Just a normal consequence of being in society then.

However I don't think the public at large needs to put up with non assistance dogs being in spaces there are specifically food and drink related.

Just because its a recent change doesn't mean we need to accept it.

What if another group of people decided that parrots were all the rage?

Should we start a menagerie at the pub? Why only dogs? Why not cats, guinea pigs, foxes, snakes etc?

Thats a shame - I'#m probably off target completely, but is he a border collie by any chance?

My grandparents had a BC at their farm growing up and she was very agile and loved fly ball.

There are 2 resident cats at a pub we go to when away. Free roaming ones. As long as your dog gets on with cats they're allowed too

I think your dislike of dogs is the least of your issues. You definitely have anger issues though. Yoga and gentle meditation could be helpful for you…..

Some of these dog owners are ruining joy for the rest of us

Always moaning about fireworks and insisting they come everywhere with them

I even like dogs but it's enough! 😄 x

Yeah he's a border collie. He's been my best friend in dog form his entire life. He was a sickly pup and grew up to be a star. He doesn't come shopping with us. Apart from the one hippy shop in town where the owner insists on him going in for a fuss (my dp was stood outside with him)

He does come to pubs and the odd cafe. Moreso cafes when we're on holiday. But he does genuinely stay out of the way unless someone invites him out. And even then he has to look at us for our nod of approval.

My dislike of dogs isn't an issue at all!! This is precisely my point. Why can't dog people understand that other people don't like dogs, and that's ok? Other people not liking dogs is not a problem!

I don't think that I have anger issues, and I'm surprised to receive a confident diagnosis (with prescribed remedies, to boot) on the basis of a single forum post.

Get off your high horse! Your tone and attitude makes me think I don’t care about your allergy you sound like an arse!

Couldn't agree more! Also some odd dog owners get offended if my kids are scared of their either over excited or aggressive dog.
Number of times we ckme face to face with irresponsible owners who bring their badly behaved dogs to cafes and expect everyone else to go out their way to accommodate them.

I have dogs. I don't think there is any need to take a dog into a shop (unless it's a pet shop).
The thought of having a dog wandering round a food shop is awful.
However, I don't think there is any issue with taking a dog to a dog friendly pub after a nice walk. This is presuming they are well behaved and not yappy or whatever. Often the dogs are only allowed in certain areas of the pub so people who aren't keen on dogs are separate.

Obviously this maybe wouldnt help the people with allergies who I can totally understand not liking dogs in indoor places.

It is a sign of the times, but businesses clearly see it as a business opportunity that benefits them. They wouldn’t do it otherwise. They’re not going to allow dogs in just to keep customers happy - they do it because it brings in money. It’s as simple as that really. Someone who might take their dog on a regular daily walk past their cafe is going to prove to be a regular customer. More than someone who might pass by on a weekly or monthly shopping trip. I recall when I was young - children were not allowed in pubs/bars at all. This changed because their customers were becoming more family orientated, and children were then allowed in. I recall loads of resistance to this at the time by some, but now, years later, it’s just the norm. And I’m sure 20 years from now, it will also just be the norm with dogs, and no more will there be daily threads on MN about it, other than in a reminiscent way.

Here we go, another thread on this.
I love to be able to to take my lovely dogs to places with me, most often we are in the woods, in the farm, on the beach etc but now and then I might want to pop for lunch or have a coffee with my dogs in tow and if I do then I will chose and I visit friendly venue.
If you don't want to be around dogs then there are plenty of places which don't allow them so really there isn't an issue.
I take them very occasionally into a shop if it allows dogs and I need something.

I like there are places I can take my puppy. It's great for her to learn how to be around people and be calm and to join in on trips out. She's being trained early on, sits and waits for permission to approach anyone and eyes on me. It's almost always shit owners, not dogs, that cause problems.

Why stop at dogs? bring your cats, parrots and lizards too! I'm terrified of snakes but have the sense to just keep my distance (not sure why you dog haters can't just do that).

And today my puppy definitely didn't stink, fresh out of the bath with baby powder shampoo.

I saw dogs in Selfridges and TK Maxx yesterday, so consequently learned they are both dog friendly shops. I just feel sorry for a dog being carried around the ridiculously busy aisles of TK Maxx, surely it can't be a pleasant experience for them?

If you don't want to be around dogs then there are plenty of places which don't allow them so really there isn't an issue.

All the cafes where I live advertise themselves as Dog Friendly. I've tried to find ones that aren't because I'm allergic, but they don't seem to exist.

All this “there are plenty of places that don’t allow dogs”

my village has 2 pubs & 2 cafes - all of them Allow dogs so no actually there are not plenty of places

What business don't seem to realise is that they are responsible for the health and safety of everyone on the premises. If they have written rules which stipulate 'No Dogs' or 'Paws on the Floor' and they fail to enforce those rules, the business is liable if a dog causes an accident or injury to another customer.

AndI live in a city! It's mad.