Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Because Mohammed did it. He married a six-year-old and consummated with her when she was nine.

now unless you’re going to say their prophet was wrong, then how are you possibly going to stop such laws being enacted around the Muslim world?

What's that got to do with child marriage in the USA

The conservative politicians trying to get it through previously tried in, I think, 2014 and 2017. Both attempts were blocked. Hopefully, with enough support, this can be blocked too, but it's looking like it'll be harder to prevent it this time.

I have asked that my previous post be removed as it was incorrect. The use of rape is sanctioned by Mr Netanyahu and many senior officials but is not enshrined in law.

And then people wonder why there's an increase in immigration.

Lol, this would make sense if the immigrants were women. But they're not. Just guys fleeing and leaving them behind to suffer God knows what horrors.

Presumably there'll be a noisy clamour of strong opposition from our MPs. Or are they too afraid to speak up? And why would that be? Why is freedom to speak out being eroded for certain groups, notably MPs who would otherwise self-describe as being liberal and progressive - but who suffer from convenient moral cowardice when young girls are being raped?

Timothy, 2:12 ‘But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence’. In addition, in Timothy 2:12, St Paul said, ‘I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet’. When laying out the ground rules for worship services in 1 Corinthians 14: 33-35, Paul revisits this by placing clear restrictions on participation by women.

Ah Saint Paul (Saul), the self-proclaimed "apostle" who never met Jesus (apart from his own account of a vision), argues with Saint Peter and was reprimanded by others of the 12 original Apostles.

And of course that was according to Timothy (a book which is considered by many scholars as NOT being written by Paul), and is contradicted by various other statements in the New Testament including Junia ("prominent among the apostles"), and Phoebe being praised as a Deaconess.

But you pick & choose the bits that prove your point (sort of like those Muslims who treat women badly).

Women do escape, it's not just the men. Men are more likely to be funded though by their families etc with the idea that the women and children follow.

This is one of the reasons I will always support Israel against Palestine. Women in Israel have far more rights and freedom than in any other country in the Middle-East. The bigger Israel gets, the freer the region becomes overall.

Oh really? What percentage of women are you talking about?

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lol have you read the Talmud? The attitude towards children in that is pretty interesting.

Tbh I read it as it is the father of the poor child can consent to the 'marriage' of their daughter. I don't think women and girls have much they can consent to in Iraq.

All of the females having sex/babies in the bible are under 12.

That’s no excuse to lower the age.

It was normal for young girls to be married at a young age in the olden days.
It was also normal to have slaves and god knows what else.

In the bible it was also encouraged for fathers to have sex with their daughters.

But we know these things are not ok and you can’t use a book from hundreds of years ago as an excuse.

The book or religion is irrelevant.
If they didn’t exist men would still be doing these things.

Women could drive alone in the UAE in 1985 and for all I know had been able to for a long time before that. Why are you making stuff up and presenting it as fact?

Perhaps the hysterical women stockpiling abortion pills might be better off buying contraceptives?

Oh…and how is that affecting millions of women right now?

what’s that? it isn’t? you just want a bit of whatabouterry?

“Hysterical” wow the world really is turning backwards.

Oh I see.

we are only worried about child marriage when it’s in the US. It’s ok when other people do it.

And you don’t think that stockpiling abortion pills is 1 - hysterical and 2 - disturbing, given that contraception is a better option? Abortion shouldn’t be viewed as regular contraception.

I had to read this twice, it’s actually medically dangerous for a girl to be pregnant at that age and can lead to fistulas which is essentially a tear between the vaginal canal causing bowel movements to be uncontrolled

Jesus! This is truly awful.

Well when men stop raping women and pregnancy is risk free for all we can talk about it but until then I’d say responsible is a better adjective.

I actually live in Iraq so thought I would comment. This was not passed and “quietly” disappeared - there was huge public backlash, protests in the street etc, and pressure from UNICEF and other organisations present in Iraq - especially from female led organisations, of which there are quite a few. It has now mainly been “forgotten” by those who tried to raise the bill and is not going to be voted on.