Another XL Bully Attack

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Vicious XL Bully attack leaves five-year-old boy with life-changing injuries and needing facial reconstruction surgery | Daily Mail Online

Little Teddy needed 100 stitches in his face but was lucky to escape with his life.

Is it unreasonable now to ask the Government to give a warning in the media, that children are to be kept away from these dogs? Not to enter a house or garden where they're known to be? Even if told that the dog is safe, which they are not.
This little chap was visiting a home with his family when it struck.

They probably did errors @Errors but there are strange pyscology attachments going on a sense of belonging. We are part of the xl bully club, the pooor darlings etc.

I think new laws need to come out to make sure it's an offence to have them within any radius of the children and certain not as family pets.

Re jaw it's been on various things about this lock jaw thing

Personally I'd like them and anything remotely resembling them put down.
Also it needs to be a policing priority with resources and money thrown at it for two years to make it more hassle than worth while

Thing is, if you pass the cost onto the owners (including the cost of clearing up dogshit) then there will be wails of how unfair it is, a tax on "peoples rights*" etc etc.

And I don't see that we should use taxes for something like this whilst children go hungry.

*People need to appreciate that every right is also a privilege.

They all need euthanizing. Seriously.

Its bad enough these attacks are happening in owners homes, but you can always refuse to go in as a visitor. What worries me is what you do when you’re out and about in a park say?

This is my worry too. I don't want that risk, for my dc or anyone

I am no expert on dogs, but I would rather take my chances with a staffy than an XL. Of course my preference would be to not be attacked in the first place!
I think for me, this comes down to risk. It seems that the number of attacks recently are disproportionately down to XLs than any other breed. And after reading that article someone kindly posted up thread about the lineage, I can see why.
Can anyone who knows anything about other Bully breeds explain to me - do other bully breeds at least give a warning?! A growl or grumble or ‘snap’ before they attack? It doesn’t seem like the XL does which is what makes it so dangerous. You can always teach a kid to heed a warning from a dog but sometimes, there isn’t one!
And how common is in-breeding and/or sudden onset rage in other Bully breeds?

It seems like the XL’s have the perfect combination of a totally unpredictable killing machine. I think part of what makes them so dangerous is luring their owners in to a false sense of security by being so docile and loving and then giving no warning before attacking you. And then of course being so powerful that there isn’t much you can do once they flip.

Well predictably change.org is full of 'don't ban the ickle baby bullies' with one suggesting harsher penalties.
Someone needs to create a very clear well worded one

Scarred for life because of thick bastards insisting on having these vicious dogs There should be strict legislation to own one of these dogs if they can't be culled.

Sheer lunacy. These people are brain dead. I wish we could put them and the XLs (and the staffies etc) in a big compound, and leave them to it.

From a previous post on MN:

Staffordshire PITBULL Terriers are just small pitbulls, bred for violence. They are prone to aggression and high up on the list of dogs most likely to attack.
"Staffordshire Bull Terriers commit 43% of U.K. attacks" yet are about 5% of the dog population. And these are just the attacks that get reported.

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2023-09-27/moment-mum-fights-off-staffy-to-protect-toddler

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/boy-five-attacked-staffordshire-bull-terrier-b2434560.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czvv0g5gjx5o

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2024/02/09/staffy-tore-a-chunk-out-of-12-year-old-shrewsbury-schoolboys-leg-causing-very-horrific-injury/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pensioner-attacked-two-staffordshire-bull-32148131

https://www.doglistener.co.uk/staffie-cross-attacks-11-children/

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/staffys-bloody-rampage-in-wakefield-left-woman-with-three-dog-teeth-embedded-in-her-wounds-4594558

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/dog-attack-halifax-mum-of-six-in-court-after-her-staffy-cross-dog-attacks-woman-leaving-her-with-deep-neck-wound-and-unconscious-4564497

I posted on another thread that behind where I work, a family house has got 4 of them. Mum and 3 now almost full grown puppies that they couldn't rehome due to the ban - they obviously didn't get vet treatment for the poor dogs. They are cooped up in a tiny garden, never walked, screamed at constantly - and the family have 3 or 4 kids, all very small who play in the garden next to the dogs. They are HUGE dogs and I'm terrified of walking past them. I've reported to Police, RSPCA, the borough council who owns the house and even social services in desperation. 4 months later, dogs are still there........ and that's the issue, authorities don't give a shit.

I’ve thought about getting a dog at some point. If I ever decide to, I will do a fuck ton of research and would definitely wait until my child was older.

I do love bigger dogs, I’ve weighed up the pros and cons between getting a rescue or a pup. If I got a rescue, I would get a breed that’s well known for being docile such as a greyhound. Or at least a smaller dog that you wouldn’t have to worry about. If I were to decide on say a German Shepherd or a Rottweiler - it’d have to be from a pup so you can train. I couldn’t adopt an older dog that’s one of those breeds, you would have no idea of it’s temperament!

Happy to be corrected/advised by any dog experts on here though!!

I will not let my children go in any house with dogs. I don't care if people think I am weird. My kids are young teens now, and have gotten through life great with this rule.

There's no need for anyone to own these dogs. They are not appropriate pets, they are not appropriate in domestic homes and they absolutely are not appropriate around children. We love dogs, we have a family friendly breed and my kids are very good with dogs, but I would not let my children in any home with an XL Bully. If I see one, I cross the street, especially if I have my kids or my dog with me. Someone shouted abuse at me for doing that a few months ago, saying their dog was friendly and harmless but I don't give a shit. No one who owns one of them is a responsible dog owner who I trust to control their dog.

And all the 'deed not breed' people can fuck off. When we see chihuahuas routinely herding sheep, or spaniels being guard dogs, you can go on about deed not breed. Breed traits are ingrained and strong.

How many more kids have to be killed and maimed by these brutish dogs owned by thickos?

@EasternStandard Never had a bully but I've worked with dogs and had them all my life. Why?

@Patienceinshortsupply mp.

Because they don't know what they are talking about (Bluey, the bully-defender, that is. Mumofnarnia is correct.).
Bully breeds lock their jaws and maul. I would ban dobermans, akitas, juskies, rottweilers, cane corsos too. I would have a short list of permitted breeds, and people can pick from that.

I think even responsible owners of XL Bullies could find themselves out of their depth . When you look at that post about lineage it’s gone past it’s how they’re trained, responsible owners etc. They are like wild animals and are unstable. I don’t think anyone can control that.

All those puppies bought in the year before the ban are in adolescence now.

The attacks are ramping up.

If all XL owners with children took responsibility and removed the risk from their household, they would be doing a very positive thing for their children.
I guess we can only hope they take action themselves. Good people would.

Responsible xl owner is an oxymoron.
It is utterly irresponsible to get these dogs.

I get it but I mean even if the owner did everything they should ..training, exercising etc these dogs’ would still be unpredictable and unstoppable if they turn .No one can control a 60 kilo monster with knashing teeth if it flips.

Exactly. They are a ticking time bomb, and it is pure luck that someone might have one that doesn't attack. They are now getting to the age where the trigger switches for many of them. These attacks will continue. People get complacent, because they think they are wonder-workers or lion-tamers, then boom, the dog flips and someone is maimed, mauled or killed. Often a child, or an innocent person. I could not care less if the owners themselves were the only victims. Like I said, round them all up, put them all in a compound, and see how they all get on.

The problem is so many people loudly proclaim the problem is the owner and nothing to do with the breed.

Which in this case is complete bullshit. The breed is unpredictable and capable of causing huge injury or worse.

Sure, shitty owners don't help, but this breed can (and frequently do) turn on decent owners who have always treated the dog well.

There was the 23 year old girl in Ireland who was killed by her XL bully, she was on TikTok protesting about the bans and defending the ‘breed’, she went home after a night out and was mauled to death. Really sad reading the article but it shows that owners of these dogs have no awareness n genuinely don’t think it will be their dog.

news.sky.com/story/amp/woman-mauled-to-death-posted-video-of-her-dancing-with-xl-bully-to-song-saying-i-dont-give-a-f-about-the-breed-being-banned-13148665