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Or is my husband - doesn't want sex unless stop cosleeping with DC

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dhnosex · 06/11/2024 22:53

DC is just under 3. Cosleeps with us for about half a year now.
I love the cosleeping - it leads to more sleep for me and in all honesty I love waking up to the tiny sleepy face or the little hugs I get in the middle of the night, DH not so much - he occasionally gets woken up by DC turning over in the night and DH believes a bed should just be for parents.
We have a large and comfortable sofa (for sex or to sleep in) and a spare bedroom (which, in fairness is full of clutter and used as a storage room but has a bed).
DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.
DC sleeps through the night when we cosleep but wakes up every couple of hours if we sleep apart. Inevitably I'm the one that has to resettle DC if they wake up because DH absolutely can't (DC will not go back to sleep, just gets more agitated). If we were to end cosleeping I'd just end up marching back and forth between our room and DC's all night, or camping in DC's room.
So... who is being unreasonable? Him for wanting DC out of our bed and threatening no sex until I do or me for not wanting to kick DC out? What solutions do I have? I do want sex, in theory could easily live without it but it's not great for a marriage to be sexless.

OP posts:
jeaux90 · 07/11/2024 12:14

JFC the attitudes on this thread.

I co slept until DD was 4.

I was working full time, sleep was a premium to me and she didn't sleep well unless in bed with me.

All good, millions of women do this.

I am a lone parent though so had no relationship to maintain but I think your DH is an idiot.

Unless he is doing his share of the waking in the night etc

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2024 12:20

I always find it interesting when people think the child should sleep alone so the adults can sleep together.

It’s difficult to think of anything less “interesting” when it’s the norm across the western world.

dhnosex · 07/11/2024 12:33

Borninabarn32 · 07/11/2024 09:55

You moved a previously independently sleeping 3 year old INTO your bed? Are you off your rocker?
I'm still battling to get DS to sleep in his own bed. He has done for over a year but still argues the toss about it, his dad still cosleeps at his house so it's not helping and it's just no help to them.

Your DH is not unreasonable to not want a child in bed with him at all. And to say he's not comfortable having sex with the child in the room, as nobody should be really, the fact some parents do that is rank. And he's not unreasonable to not want to get out of bed and go to the living room or a storage room to have sex either.

No, I moved a non-sleeping almost 2 year old into my own bed whilst I was sleep deprived and my DC started sleeping through the night immediately.

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Astrabees · 07/11/2024 12:33

It is utterly ridiculous to allow a situation to develop where a 3 or 4 year old sleeps with their parents. When mine were that age I went in and sat by them if they were poorly or upset. If they had wanted to sleep with us I would have turned them round and led them back to their own beds. We are now seeing children arriving at reception class in nappies, unable to use cutlery and being transported in buggies. There is no excuse for any of this, parents need to encourage independence and learn how to say No.

dhnosex · 07/11/2024 12:34

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 07/11/2024 12:06

So if I'm reading this correctly [the spare room/the second bedroom/the other room]- your three year old doesn't actually have a bedroom?

So where does he actually sleep if not with you and is not settling [if you are off shagging on the sofa]

Because I'd start there. Convert the spare room - give him a double bed so you can co sleep through the transition phase if he is VERY unsettled and give him a lovely room of his own that he might be inclined to sleep in.

The spare room is in addition to a toddler bedroom. So it's a 3 bed house.
There are only 2 bedrooms in the house with an adult bed - master bedroom and spare room.

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dhnosex · 07/11/2024 12:39

@Onthesideofthespiders I didn't suggest having sex with a toddler in the bed. We discussed lack of sex and he said he can't have sex with a toddler in the bed so that's why there is no sex. I questioned why he feels like that bed is the only place for sex when we've also got a spare room and sofa etc

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dhnosex · 07/11/2024 12:51

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 07/11/2024 09:01

Would you husband be content to continue cosleeping if you were having frequent sex?

If so, can you have sex somewhere other than in the bed where your 3 year old is asleep?

This is exactly the point of the thread. He wants sex but only in our bed in our bedroom. Only at night (when the child is asleep).
But since we can't do it at night in that bed, because the child is asleep in that bed, we don't have sex.

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tillylula · 07/11/2024 12:51

As someone who also Co sleeps, my opinion is that he is unreasonable.
Humans are the only mammal that doesn't sleep with their babies next to them anymore (and that's been quite recent in history). You have many many years to have sex with your husband, and you're right it doesn't have to be in a bed every time (how boring!, though it is nice to do it on your bed when it's free and you haven't been able to because of cosleeping). But you don't have all those years of snuggling little one at night. I say make the most of it and treat yourself to a nice little lingerie set and see if you can get him to the sofa. 😆

Strawberrysaucee · 07/11/2024 12:51

The attitude to co sleeping on here is actually quite sad.

Grown man wants cuddles after sex so must retain master bed = totally okay and normal.

Young child seeks comfort at night when they awaken and get scared = fuck em. They must learn.

I must be mental because that to me is weird.

It's mostly in the western world we have this attitude to sleep.

And the argument they will never leave is uttter bullshit - I used to sneak into my mum and brothers rooms when I was younger - I am certainly not doing that now and we all happily live in our own homes.

jeaux90 · 07/11/2024 12:52

@Astrabees I think your attitude is very western. Millions of women sleep with their kids. Millions of women don't have two bedroom places. I find your attitude judgemental and snobby.

I co-slept with mine, lone parent, working full time and she was a bad sleeper. It was great and when she was 4 she was all ready for her own bed.

Do what's right for you OP. I think your DH is holding you all to ransom a bit here.

Ohhbaby · 07/11/2024 12:55

Strawberrysaucee · 07/11/2024 12:51

The attitude to co sleeping on here is actually quite sad.

Grown man wants cuddles after sex so must retain master bed = totally okay and normal.

Young child seeks comfort at night when they awaken and get scared = fuck em. They must learn.

I must be mental because that to me is weird.

It's mostly in the western world we have this attitude to sleep.

And the argument they will never leave is uttter bullshit - I used to sneak into my mum and brothers rooms when I was younger - I am certainly not doing that now and we all happily live in our own homes.

I agree with co sleeping but still maintain, why does op not start of the kid in their own bed and let them come into their bed when the child wakes.
We have 3 DC with which we've all coslept at some age/some parts of the night, and starting them off in their own bed seems like a reasonable compromise.

@dhnosex hasn't answered this.

Flossflower · 07/11/2024 12:57

YABU. Sleeping with your child is only OK if both parents are happy with it.

Wannabedisneyprincess · 07/11/2024 12:59

when we have needed to cosleep the cosleeping parent alway took the DC into the spare room (which you already have) and slept in there with them
we used to alternate each night but DC always started off in their own bed

jeaux90 · 07/11/2024 13:01

Flossflower · 07/11/2024 12:57

YABU. Sleeping with your child is only OK if both parents are happy with it.

Incorrect. It's down to who gets up all the time and does the shitty night waking stuff, in this case I would assume it's the OP who probably also works and was getting exhausted.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 07/11/2024 13:01

blackpooolrock · 07/11/2024 11:55

It's madness to let a child sleep in the master bedroom while you move out for any reason.

Put the child in it's own room.

Or a kennel.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/11/2024 13:02

@dhnosex - I agree with the pp who has suggested moving the toddler into the other double bed. You could co-sleep with them there, while they get used to it, and then you could put the toddler to bed in their double bed, while you and dh go off to your room for sex and cuddles. If the child wakes up, you can go and co-sleep with them, but who knows, maybe they won't, and that would be good for all of you.

NewGreenDuck · 07/11/2024 13:06

Strawberrysaucee · 07/11/2024 12:51

The attitude to co sleeping on here is actually quite sad.

Grown man wants cuddles after sex so must retain master bed = totally okay and normal.

Young child seeks comfort at night when they awaken and get scared = fuck em. They must learn.

I must be mental because that to me is weird.

It's mostly in the western world we have this attitude to sleep.

And the argument they will never leave is uttter bullshit - I used to sneak into my mum and brothers rooms when I was younger - I am certainly not doing that now and we all happily live in our own homes.

Actually some of us grown women were quite keen on cuddles after sex.
Neither of mine wanted to sleep in with us, if either was ill one of us went to them. But quite honestly it was better for all of us to get a decent night's sleep in our own beds. FWIW my oldest has a chronic health problem and it was better if he was in his own bed.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/11/2024 13:06

YABU.

Superscientist · 07/11/2024 13:09

I have a poor sleeper, mostly due to severe silent reflux and food allergies. We bed share and she's 4. I love the cuddles but hate the flying limbs. I also get touched out and need some time without her. At 2 we put my daughter into a bed, we co sleep whilst she goes to sleep in her room. We used to go to bed at 10 and she typically woke around midnight and then came into our bed for the rest of the night. At 3 she had an awful reflux relapse and went to waking every 40 minutes and only sleeping when held which was excruciating. We started going into her and cosleeping in her bed. The biggest improvement with this was she now asks for daddy as well as mummy in the night so we can share the night. She comes into our bed in the mornings. Her sleep improved by us going into her bed and our relationship improved with having some time for us.
The only options you have proposed have been tweaking the sex and I wonder if it would be worth looking at if the cosleeping could be tweaked to give some intimacy. Could they go to bed in their bed, then you have evening sex in your bed and when you go up to bed to sleep you can bring your son into your bed? I'm with your husband I prefer a bed, I wouldn't be fussed by the spare room, especially if it was set up so that if we fell asleep afterwards I'd still get good sleep - comfy pillows, place to charge phone etc

OrangeGreens · 07/11/2024 13:14

It is utterly ridiculous to allow a situation to develop where a 3 or 4 year old sleeps with their parents

But why is it ridiculous if the mother is enjoying it and the child is enjoying it?

Obviously a compromise needs to be struck so the adult relationship is not affected, but OP has offered that compromise and he isn’t interested. Why should he get the thing he wants, on his own terms, when the OP has to entirely give up something meaningful to her in order to facilitate that? And then take on all the burden of sleepless nights in addition.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 07/11/2024 13:21

Franjipanl8r · 06/11/2024 23:25

We did loads of co-sleeping which I absolutely loved. DH was more than happy to hop off to another room in the evening or have sex during the day instead. It’s 2024, husband’s aren’t allowed to demand sex from their wives when and where they want it!

He's not demanding sex. And wives shouldn't be allowed to exclusively dictate the terms of intimacy either: sex is a shared experience between adults. He's perfectly reasonable to expect to have sex in his own bed without a kid around. 3 is old enough to sleep alone.

Babyboomtastic · 07/11/2024 13:25

sunflowersngunpowdr · 07/11/2024 13:21

He's not demanding sex. And wives shouldn't be allowed to exclusively dictate the terms of intimacy either: sex is a shared experience between adults. He's perfectly reasonable to expect to have sex in his own bed without a kid around. 3 is old enough to sleep alone.

The only person here trying to exclusively dictate where and when they have sex is the bloke. Theirs the spare bedroom. There's the sofa, there's probably lots of other places - I don't know their specific house, any of those could be used. I don't see why it has to be one specific bed at one specific time and nowhere else. How utterly boring.

ShiteRider · 07/11/2024 13:29

TheWonderhorse · 07/11/2024 09:02

I don't have a 3 year old, and they're hidden in the drawer, it's not made of perspex or labelled or anything. I don't feel the child is necessarily too young to sleep on their own either.

I am advocating for a mutual solution being found that the father participates in with good faith. Not having him dictate to his wife what she needs to do so that he can have all the sex he wants with none of the parenting required to make that happen, and withholding sex until she complies. That sort of behaviour is adversarial and would have me hugely unaroused.

What a strange interpretation. Is it withholding sex till someone complies or is it not wanting to have sex under the conditions that it is currently ‘available’?

For example, if my husband said from now on we’re only having sex in the conservatory and I find that a massive turn off so chose not to, am I withholding sex or am I just making an adult choice about my own preferences and boundaries?

Astrabees · 07/11/2024 13:30

@OrangeGreens Because it discourages independence, self settling and the child developing ways to entertain itself if it is awake and others are not. As the OP has indicated it rules out the normal comfortable marital sex that most couples have in their own beds. If the child has a perfectly comfortable bed of its own after age 2, or a cot before this, it should be encouraged to sleep in it.

Autumnchilltime · 07/11/2024 13:34

dhnosex · 06/11/2024 22:53

DC is just under 3. Cosleeps with us for about half a year now.
I love the cosleeping - it leads to more sleep for me and in all honesty I love waking up to the tiny sleepy face or the little hugs I get in the middle of the night, DH not so much - he occasionally gets woken up by DC turning over in the night and DH believes a bed should just be for parents.
We have a large and comfortable sofa (for sex or to sleep in) and a spare bedroom (which, in fairness is full of clutter and used as a storage room but has a bed).
DH has declared that he is uncomfortable having sex when a toddler is in our bed. Understandable. To my suggestion that there are other places to have sex he's said he just likes it in a bed, after a cuddle rather than a scheduled walk to the second bedroom or on the sofa.
DC sleeps through the night when we cosleep but wakes up every couple of hours if we sleep apart. Inevitably I'm the one that has to resettle DC if they wake up because DH absolutely can't (DC will not go back to sleep, just gets more agitated). If we were to end cosleeping I'd just end up marching back and forth between our room and DC's all night, or camping in DC's room.
So... who is being unreasonable? Him for wanting DC out of our bed and threatening no sex until I do or me for not wanting to kick DC out? What solutions do I have? I do want sex, in theory could easily live without it but it's not great for a marriage to be sexless.

Dear God, I hope this is a reverse