Where is Kamala?

[Annabella92]

Just saw this post on X, and I tend to agree...

"Kamala lost as she campaigned - a coward who couldn't face the media, couldn't handle the pressure. Didn't even have the character required to concede on election night. Went home to sulk. The opposite of presidential material."

Really and truly was there nobody with any substance the Democrats could have put forward. What on earth did they expect. The bar was so low.

I don't like either of 2 but to be fair, Kamala was thrown into the deep end with very little time to have a proper campaign, with her party (namely Obamas) giving interviews telling she is the least suitable candidate abd then switching to "she is the best" overnight.

Then having to turn around completely in a matter of 16 weeks and likely having been convinced she would win. It's not easy, esp with such a short preparation.

But Dems deserve what they got, this loss is of their own making.

I never thought she would win
But I did think she was the least worse option.

But that’s a completely different system and norm. It also only happens after someone has actually won the election. In 2010 Gordon Brown’s speech was 5 days after the election and that was completely normal in those circumstances, as coalition talks had to be completed before anyone had a majority.

They did indeed, MillyMichaelson, but put it this way ... if the incoming results had been going Kamala's way does anyone suppose she'd just have scuttled off and left someone else to suggest the faithful go home?

As PPs have said this is about grace under fire and leadership skills, and to many she'll just be confirming that they did right to reject her

In practical terms she has a terrible speaking voice. It is weak and high pitched and faint so doesn't convince anyone she is capable of boiling a kettle.

She had, in her favour, an education, experience and the backing of the Obama's. Should have been plenty for a discerning audience.

They were not a discerning audience unfortunately.

It did make her look very weak that she couldn't speak to her supporters last night, I agree. She didn't have to concede then, but she could at least have spoken to them and thanked them for their support. That's what a real leader would do, in my opinion.

Frankly the whole darned thing looks strange to me, EasternStandard, and the fact they hung on to Biden despite his obvious frailty is just one more aspect

If they'd had the sense to act decisively much earlier we probably wouldn't all be having this conversation, but they didn't and here we are

Yes, I wonder why Kamala, a black woman, would be held to a higher standard than those who went before her?

She's not even going to win the Democratic party nomination in 2028 not to talk of win the presidency.

She would have never got the nomination this time if she ran, she only got it because Biden dropped down mid race and they had to scramble to replace him. Obama was reluctant to give her his support for a reason and took about a week before he finally did. There was the conversation that was overheard between Biden and Obama a few weeks ago discussing how she wasn't popular enough.

She performed worse than Biden and Clinton which is saying something, so bad she lost ground in solid blue states like NY and Illinois, yeah she won but lower votes and Trump secured more votes than expected in those states that have been historically blue.

Yeah don't expect her for 2028.

Why on earth are you expecting a US politician, in a US election, to act in accordance with UK political norms with regard to the timing of their concession speech?

Honestly, just listen to yourself!

She comes over as very lightweight. Now Michelle Obama would have had a really good chance of beating Trump. IMHO. So it's nothing to do with being black or a woman. Folk need to look further for the reasons she lost.

How is it bitter to critique a senior political figure? Isn't that a democratic right?

Can only imagine the reaction if Trump had taken so long to concede defeat. 'He's trying to overthrow democracy!!!!'

Agree, it’s not always about sexism or racism.

Not surprising at all from her, she is a complete disgrace.

Christ, imagine if this was the other way around, , the national guard were on standby....

Except he and his supporters did try to overthrow democracy, didn't they? It's not exactly an unfounded fear? He still hasn't conceded 2020.

But that's what he did!

It’s been 4 years and we’re still waiting. 😂😂

Maybe she's treating Trump with the same contempt he's treated her. He declared himself winner before the election was even called, so I doubt he cares about her urgency or lack thereof.

I think we also need to discuss Tim Walz as her running mate as well.

I don’t think he was a good choice especially as this election was always going to be decided in Penn.

JD Vance wiped the floor with him in the debates. He seems like a nice guy but being a nice guy isn’t the criteria for VP.

He did when Biden won...he still does and incited a riot, I'm assuming you're being ironic...

Well that would be ridiculous with a landslide.

@Puzzledandpissedoff oh stop it. People who just gave up months of their lives for a cause they believed in, are in no mood to party when they lose to an actual misogynist facist.

Be sensible will ya instead of picking holes in the perfectly normal actions of the losing candidate.

I thought it was said he was scare of her? The narrative changes but always vitriolic. Just accept the results and move on.