To just be loving The Donald Win!

[Farting]

I just love it. So pleased.

But you can think all this, and still mot vote Trump. You should recognise that a vote for Trump may look on the surface like it rolls the clock back to a "men are men women are women" world. But Trumpists are not going to stop those aspects of trans rights which are secretly driven by the men's rights movement. They don't care about women's spaces. They ARE the men's rights movement, they are a different part of it!

You have been sold down the river if you put gender critical thinking together with the rest of Trump's disgusting shit-filled package of values.

You think it's extreme that most of Americans voted against abortion being available, where they don't want it to be? You think it's extreme to speak about the reality of assistance suicide?

This being a primarily U.K. website, very few of us here actually had to make the difficult choice of which of the two evils to vote for, I think @Tiedyesquad

I’m not a Trump supporter. He’s no good for women anywhere. I was addressing the Trans viewpoint. The dems are very much let men participate in women’s sports and this is clearly one aspect that gives/gave a hand to the Republicans. But yeah, Trump is vile.

Said it better than me.

Is being against assisted dying "extremist" now? God help us (I'm an atheist)

I don't like Trump either, he was just better than Harris.

The chances of women being assaulted by a man in a single sex space such as a women's toilet are much higher than the chances of being assaulted by a trans woman.

I have lived in two different large cities as an adult, socialising in pubs, night clubs and gay bars and I have never met a trans person, never mind being threatened or assaulted by one. I've had many narrow escapes from men.

I think women's single sex spaces should be protected but the hatred and prejudice towards trans people is disgusting. It feels like the McCarthyism of the 1950s with the 'reds under the beds' scare, completely out of proportion to the reality.

Apparently dying (suffocating whilst anestheia makes you unable to move) and for a diagnosis like diabetes, then having your organs harvested, is just a really nice gift to give others.

The chances of women being assaulted by a man in a single sex space such as a women's toilet are much higher than the chances of being assaulted by a trans woman.

Statistic? It would be recorded that a "woman" did it. Males with a gender identity of "woman" pose the same amount of risk to women as any other male.

Yeah I appreciate that @AccidentallyWesAnderson and I wasn't having a go at you.

I honestly don't know how to create caucuses and coalitions around baskets of values now, to allows voters to feel like they are in groups who are voting for a shared informed vision of the world. The fault lines seem to go through all traditional groupings.

Sometimes I think we have been given tne keys to a a globalised world with the power to inform global-level threats, but fundamentally we have not passed the driving test to drive it. We have the blinkered, overly personal, overly superstitious vision of medieval villagers. We don't see how complexity and risk works or understand how they apply to us.

I'm not calling Trump voters stupid. I think all of us simply don't have the thinking skills to vote in our own long term best interests in a world as complex as this one is.

The liberal elite don't practice what they preach. Everyone is sick of them.

@Tiedyesquad did you have any concerns about the Democrats' plans/record?

The poster that I was replying to has extreme views on abortion and assisted dying. She said that pro-choice women would send their children to Canada for MAID if they got ill or had an accident.

Sorry Boris, hope you have a splendid time celebrating xenophobia and misogyny in the US well done you.

Again (can people read before falling over themselves to shout ‘you hate trans people,
its getting boring), how does one tell the difference between a man who wants to cause you harm, and a trans women who just wants to pee/get changed/whatever. You don't even have to dress any certain way, you just have to say ‘I am a woman’. Both are men. Women who don’t believe people have an inner gender identity would just see men. Women would really benefit from that insider knowledge, an inner crystal ball.

It’s not even about being attacked. Women have a right to be in such places without the presence of a biological male. End of.

I know plenty of lovely men, I still wouldn’t want them to go into female sex spaces if they woke up tomorrow and decided they were a woman despite being 99% sure of their intentions. Why? Because their mere presence may make women feel uncomfortable.

The comprehensions skills (or lack of) is frightening.

I think women's single sex spaces should be protected

By this, do you mean you think the biologically male people that are considered "trans women" should be excluded from them? @thepariscrimefiles

You will not be able to supply evidence of this

I said that their older children that knew their parents aborted due to disability, may fear that their parents may (if they get sick/have an accident) find them also inconvenient and take up the offer of MAID in Canada.

🥱 again, I am sorry that you seem to have comprehension issues.

It's shocking.
Sharron Davies MBE
@sharrond62
The level of hysteria in America by young people is in itself very worrying. Regardless of politics when Trump was president last time life in the USA still carried on. It will this time. Instead get into politics & change it. Crying on TikTok, shaving off your hair or declaring celibacy to punish men is seriously insane! This mass mental breakdown has been brought on by terrible MSM whipping very un resilient girls in particular into a frenzy of depression! It’s very self destructive ..

I think the Democrats have dropped the ball. I am very fearful of the Starmer gov doing the same thing. There needs to be a much more radical look at how the whole system works and how to connect with voters and the political system is basically tired and old.

The thing I fear most is that lots of political folks think that the adversarial, abstract crap that is talked among themselves, about what people want, is a feature not a bug - they think they're doing all this stupid shit with Whips and Private Members Bills and blah blah and they think it leads to good policy and legislation and don't even realise how far off they are from real life.

So yeah I think the Democrats did that and also here we are doing that. I don't think either gov has "plans" that are strategic enough to take on the challenges we really face and describe them accurately to people.

I agree with this, Tiedy.

The failure of all the left leaning pundits to predict the result on both sides of the Atlantic was really stark. Twitter is not real life. Your bubble is not everyone's.

The level of hysteria in America by young people is in itself very worrying. Regardless of politics when Trump was president last time life in the USA still carried on. It will this time. Instead get into politics & change it. Crying on TikTok, shaving off your hair or declaring celibacy to punish men is seriously insane! This mass mental breakdown has been brought on by terrible MSM whipping very un resilient girls in particular into a frenzy of depression! It’s very self destructive ..

Sharron is right. It's really not good.

That's disgusting thing to say. It's actually very difficult to get an assisted death in Canada, anyway. That poster knows nothing about the process and is talking errant nonsense.

How can anyone who is a woman vote Trump? He’s a misogynistic, rapist sexual abuser who thinks that any woman who has an abortion for any reason, should be punished. Can anyone think that a man would put up with being told what to do with their own body and if they for example had a vasectomy, being punished for it? Being arrested for manslaughter because you’re miscarrying?
A dark day for women in the states and I feel very sorry for them all.

I have comprehension issues as your posts don't make any sense. What relevance does that Sharron Davies quote have to my comment about your views on abortion and assisted dying?

This is a direct quote from your post at 18.15 yesterday in response to my query to you about who believes in full term abortion:

Their older children must feel scared each time they get sick or have an accident, that they will be sent to Canada and given MAID.