To just be loving The Donald Win!

[Farting]

I just love it. So pleased.

If they weren't telling the rest of us how to vote/think/live, nobody would be as bothered by their lifestyle.

While the rest of us have been fretting about recycling and using paper straws, a new study shows that the super-wealthy have been polluting more than ever.

Despite being owned by just 0.003 per cent of the population, research shows that private jets of the rich make an 'outsized' contribution to climate change.

Scientists from Linnaeus University in Sweden found that private jets produced 15.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) in 2023, up 46 per cent from 2019.

The most frequent fliers each churned out 2,400 tonnes of emissions in 2023 – more than 500 times as much as the average individual.

Last year, ultra-rich jet owners – including the likes of pop star Taylor Swift and Amazon founder Jeff Bezos – flew for almost 26,000 hours over 4,301,561 individual flights.

However, the researchers argue that a sizeable amount of these journeys could have been made by car or other means of transport.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14054663/Carbon-emissions-private-jets-increased.html

"Talikg to him about it, he said that most want cheap fuel/energy, and couldn’t care less about eco policies, most want low inflation/prices, most think Trump will make them richer, most want immigration (from Mexico) stopped, and most hate the trans issues. They also hate wokery."

Most people who he mixes with? His friends and colleagues?

What does 'most hate trans issues' mean do you think? The right talks ceaselessly and aggressively about transgender people and legislation to restrict the rights of transgender people to live freely, despite the fact that very few on the right have had any meaningful engagement (or indeed have ever met) people from this community.

'Couldn't care less about eco policies' - because they're ignorant and also selfish. Which isn't really something I'd find easy to defend, but you crack on.

"While the rest of us have been fretting about recycling and using paper straws, a new study shows that the super-wealthy have been polluting more than ever."

Climate change is an existential threat that requires international co-operation and really well thought through legislation.

Which nobody's going to get from a Trump administration.

Shockingly, Taylor's average flight time was just 80 minutes and only covered 139 miles (225km) – a distance that the star easily could have driven.

You need to tell Taylor, your "vote Harris" poster girl this, not us, as she is the biggest problem.

No, the right do not talk ceaselessly and aggressively about transgender people and legislation to restrict the rights of transgender people to leave freely. Where is your evidence? Sources?

Transgender people have the same rights as everyone else. Women don’t want men, regardless of how they identify, regardless of their pseudo reality or how they cosplay at being a woman, in their sports and spaces. Or gender ideology in schools.

I’ll say it again, no one has to be forced into believing in an ideology if they don’t want to. Trans ideology included.

What is 'transing children'?

"They don't get to have additional rights that oppress women"

Have you personally oppressed by a transwoman? What happened?

Literally no-one said that being assaulted is funny. You are purposefully misinterpreting what is said to support your [lack of an] argument.

You make no sense. If sexual assault isn't funny then why would you find a joke an about sexual assault funny?
I guess it's funny if it's referring to someone else eh?

Most of your comments have been deleted which probably tells you something. I didn't report them so clearly others also find your views abhorrent.

"Does any gender critical person ever mention trans men? No, because they don't carry the same risk statistically, as they are female."

But the core of your hatred and contempt for transgender people is that you think their whole identity is 'a lie' and you think that people who feel the need point this out are being oppressed.

There seems to be a theme of low comprehension.

Why would someone (even if they enjoyed her music) take political advice from Taylor Swift, who lives her life in a way environmentally wise "do as I say not as I do" or "it's somehow different for me, I am special"?

She lives a life in definace and oppositional to her woke beliefs. I also don't understand her claims that she is Christian, it's an identity, she doesn't live the life of a Christian.

Yes. I’ve had a male rapist who is an all round menace to women stand in front of me and tell me he’s a woman, that I’m supposed to refer to as a woman and call him she. My company policy would dictate I would have to go along with this. I didn’t btw but there are many women who would risk losing their jobs as a result, who need to put food on the table, why does this person’s feelings (as that’s all it is) overrule theirs?

I also have a trans woman colleague who is lovely (and uses the neutral toilet) and I refer to them by their chosen name.

It doesn’t matter if I have personally been affected or not and even if I didn’t know any trans women doesn’t change anything, plenty of women are being affected by this ideology.

Thankfully I’ve never been to prison or been raped, doesn’t stop me from caring about the ones who have and who could potentially be locked up with or have a male in their groups where they go to get help, despite the efforts of the oh so open minded your brains have fallen out brigade, such as yourself.

@izimbra what about my other points?

Should trans women be allowed to compete in women's sports? Change in women's changing rooms? Be incarcerated with women? Should children and teenagers be prescribed puberty blockers?

Stop inventing nonsense. I already said no one hates trans people but it is a lie yes. Humans cant be the opposite sex. Their identify relies on old sexist stereotypes and 'dress'.

You really have nothing except to repeat this mantra. You do more harm to trans people than you think by ignoring women and their valid safeguarding concerns.

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1854524202289680780/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1854524202289680780&currentTweetUser=libsoftiktok

Imagine being 14 and stuck in this algorithm.

You clearly have huge contempt for transgender people. You may not realise that this message comes across loud and clear from your posts. You think the way they think about themselves is simply wrong, and they should think about themselves and see themselves differently.

"You do more harm to trans people than you think by ignoring women and their valid safeguarding concerns."

The 'valid safeguarding concern' of being being assaulted in a toilet by a predatory transwoman, the sort of person who makes up a minuscule percentage of a minuscule percentage of people in this country who are transgender women? Statistically what's the likelihood? I know it's a huge issue IN YOUR HEAD, but it's not really a huge threat to women is it - statistically.

"You do more harm to trans people"

You do more harm to trans people by being unable to reference them without constantly talking about criminality and mental illness. You remind me of the many far right posters on X who can't hear the word 'Muslim' or 'Asian' without needing to talk about grooming gangs.

Sharing posts by Libsofticktock?

Wow - just out yourself why don't you.

Mumsnet seems to have become a haven for the alt right.

This is the wikipedia entry for Libs of Tiktok

"Libs of TikTok is a handle for various far-right[a] and anti-LGBT[b] social-media accounts operated by Chaya Raichik (/ˈxɑːjə ˈraɪtʃɪk/ KHAH-yə RY-chik),[10] a former real estate agent.[11][12][13] Raichik uses the accounts to repost content created by left-wing and LGBT people on TikTok, and on other social-media platforms, often with hostile, mocking, or derogatory commentary.[14][15] The accounts promote hate speech and transphobia, and spread false claims, especially relating to medical care of transgender children"

Have you seen the Gary Barlow Wiki entry? It says 3 children, 1 giant.

https://x.com/Harvey9CS2/status/1854294038515458132

If you don't want shocked faces at your content, don't post it, why not make Libs redundant?

You may not realise that this message comes across loud and clear from your posts. You think the way they think about themselves is simply wrong, and they should think about themselves and see themselves differently.

Not everyone believes in your ideology. I don't believe gender identity is innate. I see "gender" as simply a regressive social construct based on sex stereotypes. I'm only interested in a person's biological sex, and then only when I need to be. A "trans woman" is a male person who has a belief (that I don't share) that they are somehow aligned with being female.

What does that even mean?

Do you spend a lot of time seeking out random content to make you feel better about your rabid hatred of people with progressive views?

Find it hard to believe you're an adult.

Well the fact that you are posting links to the Libs of Tiktok Twitter page as you obviously agree with their views, proves that it is a right-wing platform to spread the sort of anti-LGBTQ+ propaganda that you've been spouting all over this thread, along with your extremist views on abortion and assisted dying.

I have high levels of contempt for men who push boundaries and go into spaces and take places in sports where they have no right to be.

I have high levels of contempt who think it’s ok to push this ideology into vulnerable children and young adults and put them on a pathway to making horrific irreversible medical decisions.

I have high levels of contempt for people like you who cheerlead this.

You haven’t addressed any of my points in any way that shows you understand even the basic of what I’m saying.

A female has more chance of being assaulted by a male. Females cannot tell which ones are the bad ones from the good ones. This risk doesn’t change because a man presents in such a way that he thinks makes him a woman, like a dress or make up. Single
sex provisions exists for a reason. It’s called safeguarding. A bit like statistically the chances if you being burgled is tiny, but people still lock their doors and have ring doorbells.

I already referenced a trans woman without mentioning criminality and/or mental illness. You literally have nothing but ‘you all hate trans people’. Address the sports, prisons and rape crisis centres questions then?

Again it’s men. MEN. Boundary pushing men.

Try harder.

@LondonPapa

Like it or not, he was a high desirable prize for women to land. Still is.

I think you may need glasses love.

What I am is a guy who has experienced the kind of locker room talk Trump has been accused of, along with all the previously consensual encounters turning into money grabs due to him running for and / or becoming president.

You experienced a bunch of women trying to get money from you by falsely accusing you of assault, because you ran for President?
Make this sentence make sense, please.
Anybody who is accused by multiple people of assault is most likely actually guilty of assault of at least some of them. Law of probability.

What does that even mean?

It means that the Libs of TikTok Twitter account reposts content that extremist trans rights or other "social justice" activists have themselves posted on social media that many people who do not share their views find shocking or amusing, mostly the latter. They have as much or as little political credibility as many other social media commentators on all sides.

As pp said, perhaps the people you are concerned about should be less quick to post batshit stuff on the internet for attention?

😆 you reference Wiki, so I showed you that wiki can be edited to show anything.

I am sorry that you struggle with comprehension, you sound rude as if it's someone else's fault.

Wikipedia has very little credibility on contentious political issues, its extremely biased.

"I honestly don’t believe Putin would’ve invaded Ukraine, or be canoodling with Korea if Trump had been in power."

I don't think that the strong man approach would have prevented anything, but quite a lot happened between 2020 (when Trump went out) and 2022, and it is quite possible that if those things had not happened, Feb 2022 would not have happened.

Though quite a lot also happened between 2014 and 2020 which led eventually to what happened in 2022, but we would have to look back at policy decisions taken by Trump between 2016 and 2020 (that is, real ones rather than rumours) to form a view. Unless there are any genuine experts here, who can link sources to actual decisions rather than editorial comment. I do remember funding stopped to certain groups in 2018 as a result of senate decisions.

In relation to Korea, I think that that is a different point. And I am not sure what happened exactly in relation to the Korean crisis which arose under Trump, which we were all worried about at the time, but to be fair, it did indeed fizzle out.