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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

OP posts:
flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:23

you don’t like her
she doesn’t like you
you now live on the other side of the world

quit navel gazing about her 🤷

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:25

I actually do think that moving away to the entirely new continent without any support network will do her some good. It helped me massively to work through similar issues in my 20s. I had to make a life for myself, my parents categorically told me I will not be welcomed home until I gave it at least a year. 25 years later I have two degrees, a stable job, a mortgage-free flat and I am about to buy my second property on a single income. Sometimes things get worse before they get better so, as a friend, I would advice her to stick it out for a year.

MaggieBsBoat · 06/11/2024 08:25

Totally NBU.

Silly people do silly things. I would be tempted to give it to her straight to be honest. Ask her exactly how she thought her life would magically sort itself out on the other side of the planet?

MatildaTheCat · 06/11/2024 08:25

Is she actually asking you for advice or simply complaining to you? They are different.

Assuming you don’t live in Australia or have experience of it then you just say you’re not able to advise, who could she ask for actual lived experiences?

And it sounds as if her parents will bail her out if that’s what usually happens. I wouldn’t give it much headspace.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 06/11/2024 08:26

She’ll be back ( I’m struggling to see how she qualifies for Australian residency).

Think carefully about whether you want to be picking up the pieces when she returns.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:27

A close friend of mine

this is your version of a close friendship? the two of you don’t seem to even like one another

Datgal · 06/11/2024 08:27

How has she managed to emigrate doing admin work?

BookishType · 06/11/2024 08:27

How did she get to emigrate with a job in admin? 🤔

tuvamoodyson · 06/11/2024 08:28

‘Oh dear, that’s a pity’
’oh dear, I hope you get it sorted’

…then get on with your own life.

MaggieBsBoat · 06/11/2024 08:29

the above questions are good ones. How does one actually get a work permit by doing admin??? EU you need to be earning nearly 60k to get a permit.

TheSandgroper · 06/11/2024 08:29

“You are there because you want to be. I can’t help you from here”. What’s the point of being someone’s lifeboat if they keep jumping out of it? She needs to grow up and you can’t do that for her, adhd or no adhd.

And Australia should be no one’s idea of a magic wand.

supercatlady · 06/11/2024 08:29

There’s no way she emigrated for an admin job.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:29

the op won’t be back

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 06/11/2024 08:30

Are you asking me for advice Shirley? I don't think that's a good idea because you didn't listen to me before. Good luck with your new life. I hope it works out.
And mute.

Parky04 · 06/11/2024 08:30

You can't just relocate to Australia to do an admin job!

FamilyPhoto · 06/11/2024 08:31

No way would she qualify to stay in Aus with the information you've given.
Ive emigrated twice - currently live in Spain. Ive often met people who think that moving to another country will be some sort of lifetime holiday - they usually return home within 6 months.
Id just let this friendship fizzle out , you dont seem to like each other much.

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:32

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:25

I actually do think that moving away to the entirely new continent without any support network will do her some good. It helped me massively to work through similar issues in my 20s. I had to make a life for myself, my parents categorically told me I will not be welcomed home until I gave it at least a year. 25 years later I have two degrees, a stable job, a mortgage-free flat and I am about to buy my second property on a single income. Sometimes things get worse before they get better so, as a friend, I would advice her to stick it out for a year.

Your parents sound abusive

applepipshake · 06/11/2024 08:32

TheSandgroper · 06/11/2024 08:29

“You are there because you want to be. I can’t help you from here”. What’s the point of being someone’s lifeboat if they keep jumping out of it? She needs to grow up and you can’t do that for her, adhd or no adhd.

And Australia should be no one’s idea of a magic wand.

Yeah this. There is nothing you can do and in fact, you need to allow her to make such mistakes so that she can learn from them. Dont rob someone of that opportunity, because it's literally how we learn and grow. That doesnt mean you have to be rude or harsh to her but instead of saying "what can I do to fix this"? say "so, what are you going to do about it"?- put it back on her.

She's a grown adult, not a helpless child. Stop taking responsibility for her life!

Also, I have no idea why she thought Aus would be cheaper- I've googled this in the past and it is very expensive to live there. Sure, wages might be higher but thats because the cost of living is so high.

StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 08:33

How did she get a visa?

How did she manage to get all the way out there without realising Australia was insanely expensive for housing and food?

Towerofsong · 06/11/2024 08:34

BookishType · 06/11/2024 08:27

How did she get to emigrate with a job in admin? 🤔

It's probably a working holiday visa, you get them for a year and can extend

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:34

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Nettleskeins · 06/11/2024 08:35

I've always been very invested in my friends lives and problems and like you thought "advice" was what was required.
Tbh, now that I'm older (nearly 60) I begin to see that a) it feeds something in me to interfere, have opinions and intervene/wring my hands. I mean that not in a good way.
b)when a friend tells you her problems complains you have to push back and ask them what solutions or ideas THEY have, not you.

I'm of the newly found firm belief that if you have strong opinions and beliefs about your own life it can have a positive influence on others. Strong opinions about other people....not so much.

Set an example of courtesy but don't get sucked in to the drama.

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/11/2024 08:35

Two largely unrelated points but:

a) you clearly don’t like her much and your post is dripping with schadenfreude.
b) you’re probably correct but it might shock some sense into her.

Chances are she will be home in a few months will tail between legs. If she does, don’t tell her you told her so. She’ll have worked that out for herself and you rubbing it in will end what’s left of this friendship.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:35

@Catza

* my parents categorically told me I will not be welcome* if you didn’t give it a year

would you say this to your children?

Lovelysummerdays · 06/11/2024 08:36

MaggieBsBoat · 06/11/2024 08:29

the above questions are good ones. How does one actually get a work permit by doing admin??? EU you need to be earning nearly 60k to get a permit.

I went to oz on a backpacker visa for a year. Easy to get ( if under 30) you can work. Although I did bar jobs etc. a few people I know got proper jobs and managed to get sponsored and stay. Then eventually got married, Facebook tells me at least two are still out there.