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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

OP posts:
Triffid1 · 06/11/2024 09:15

There will always be people who think tha tmoving to another coutnry will a) be easy and b) solve all their problems. DH's family have this a lot - he barely speaks to his uncle anymore because basically he just gets quizzed on how his uncle could move to England (he can't), and what opportunities there would be fo rhim here (very few). Those members of DH's family who HAVE moved here, have been completely gobsmacked that things don't work exactly the same as they do in their home country!

I am from SA originally and I also know loads of South Africans who moved to Australia or new Zealand thinking it would be the land of milk and honey. hahahaha. I also know many who have returned home, tail tucked between their legs within a year. Because they thought they'd be top of the pile in Australia and the Australians were all like, "haha - screw you all".

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 09:16

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 06/11/2024 09:12

I'm not sure why her choices are causing you so much distress.

You've also said she has ADHD. She won't make decisions the way a neurotyoical person does.

because the op is seething with jealously

At 29, single, financial net provided y parents, giving oz ago…. compared with i imagine the OP feeling bored and old before her time

ThirdStorm · 06/11/2024 09:17

I had a friend who moved in similar circumstances and we drifted apart because she criticised my lifestyle (one of a typical brit I'm sure, office job, living in UK, working hard to afford to buy a house, got a house, paid mortgage etc). Looking back I think she just wanted something different, something more, something she didn't feel she could get in the UK. Which is totally fine BUT I don't accept her looking down at my choices as I'm very happy!

I hope it works out for your friend, but it sounds like she needs to make friends where she is, knuckle down to find a job and get on with it. I'm sure it will settle down once she gets over the culture shock.

TheShellBeach · 06/11/2024 09:18

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/11/2024 09:13

To be fair, MN seem a bit over-enthusiastic with the deletions this morning. My post said that I wasn't sure whether it was genuine but if it was then XYZ. I've seen that wording on many, many posts elsewhere and it's not usually a problem.

But it's been zapped. Seems a bit over-zealous tbh.

I really can't be fucked writing the rest of the post out again so I'm not going to bother.

Actually, you wrote:

OP is a troll

LurkingFromTheShadows · 06/11/2024 09:18

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:23

you don’t like her
she doesn’t like you
you now live on the other side of the world

quit navel gazing about her 🤷

This nails it.

Your contempt for her is obvious. She doesn't sound pleasant either. This isn't a friendship.

Blondiie · 06/11/2024 09:19

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:23

you don’t like her
she doesn’t like you
you now live on the other side of the world

quit navel gazing about her 🤷

This

You dislike her. You don’t see her anymore. What is it about her and her situation that is causing you to dwell? Does your own life need a kick up the arse?

Purplewarrior · 06/11/2024 09:19

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 09:16

because the op is seething with jealously

At 29, single, financial net provided y parents, giving oz ago…. compared with i imagine the OP feeling bored and old before her time

Agreed.

Along with PP I am wondering how the close friend that OP clearly despises managed to emigrate to Australia doing an admin job.

I guess there will be a drip feed to explain, or OP just won’t bother coming back…

Ttcpph · 06/11/2024 09:19

Tbh she does sound like she has ADHD - making decisions on a whim, not thinking things through, not considering the effects of her actions.

i imagine you are frustrated/annoyed at her because she doesn't follow your advice. The advice in your head seems rational, and you don't understand why she doesn't do as you suggest... well unfortunately her brain works differently to yours and sees things from a very different perspective.

instead of moaning about her on MN, be grateful for your life and be there for your friend when she needs help picking up the pieces. Thats what's real friends are for. I do understand that supporting someone like your friend can be hard as I have a sister who sounds very similar to your friend and I regularly lose patience with her and get frustrated by her decisions.

ultimately we can't control other people's life choices, all we can do is choose to be supportive, even when that feels really difficult.

Movinghouseatlast · 06/11/2024 09:21

You obviously can't stand her from your post. You are angry that she isn't more like you.

I had a friend like that, I realised I thought her decisions were ridiculous given her circumstances ( e.g. Blew £20k on designer clothes, laser hair treatment, holidays rather than a house deposit she banged on about really needing) I cut contact with my friend once I realised I didn't like her.

29 is so young though ( my friend was 45) We all mature at different rates, have different skills, different attitudes and values.I

Unless there is some other reason she has a visa it's unlikely she has emigrated which implies a permanent move. You can advise her to stick it out a bit longer before coming back, join a few clubs etc to make a life for herself.

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 09:22

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/11/2024 08:35

Two largely unrelated points but:

a) you clearly don’t like her much and your post is dripping with schadenfreude.
b) you’re probably correct but it might shock some sense into her.

Chances are she will be home in a few months will tail between legs. If she does, don’t tell her you told her so. She’ll have worked that out for herself and you rubbing it in will end what’s left of this friendship.

I think this is fair.

There is also the question of how the OP's friend-that-she-doesn't-like managed to get through a pretty stringent immigration process when she doesn't appear to have skills in short supply in Australia? Or is it just one of those temporary working holiday visas?

Runningribbit · 06/11/2024 09:23

You clearly don’t like this person. Hopefully she will settle and find a supportive network around her where she is.

RomeoRivers · 06/11/2024 09:23

Wow! I could have written this word for word about my brother!!

He’s due to fly to Australia tomorrow to be with some girl he dated for 6 months, over a year ago, who has repeatedly shown that she’s not that into him. It’s absolute madness. He will be phoning my parents homesick, depressed and broke before Christmas and beg them to bail him out (yet again).

He never listens to advice or takes any accountability for his behaviour or poor life choices. We no longer speak.

SilkyWoo · 06/11/2024 09:27

Parky04 · 06/11/2024 08:30

You can't just relocate to Australia to do an admin job!

Working holiday visa. Totally normal.

AnneLovesGilbert · 06/11/2024 09:29

You clearly despise her and she doesn’t need friends like you.

My sister went to Australia for a few months after leaving her job, her housemate moving out and a break up. She’s still there many years later with an incredible life she could never have had here. She’s married an amazing man, lives in the most stunning place, has a qualification and a job she couldn’t have here, two brilliant children. It’s more than she could have dreamt of when her life was crap and she took a punt on moving away for a bit.

Focus on making your own life as you’d like it so you have less time to think about a woman you can’t stand.

Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:32

A large number of people I know have moved over to Australia without ever preciously visiting it (in fact my OH's first time on a plane was to fly to Australia for a year!), they all went out on working holiday visas and got their visas extended after a year, the vast majority were home sick for the first 2 months (totally natural as moving to a brand new continent, country, other side of the world is a BIG fucking move!!!!), and a fair few of my female friends that went got their hair done before they went because Australia is notorious for expensive hairdressers....... OP you do not sound like she is your friend at all! A horrible, judgey post, you clearly think you are better than her, just cut the friendship off now. Ask yourself genuinely why are you trying to maintain a relationship with a person you clearly have little respect for!

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 06/11/2024 09:33

Why are you friends with someone who makes snide comments about you?

Someone who made two comments like that to me would never get a chance to make a third, because I'd be done with them.

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 09:39

SilkyWoo · 06/11/2024 09:27

Working holiday visa. Totally normal.

Sure but then the OP is massively overblowing the situation -- her 'friend' whom she doesn't like is essentially taking an extended working holiday. If she's unhappy she can cut it short. And she can't have spent her £30k inheritance on the move, as the OP claims, as she won't have moved many belongings.

Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:41

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 09:39

Sure but then the OP is massively overblowing the situation -- her 'friend' whom she doesn't like is essentially taking an extended working holiday. If she's unhappy she can cut it short. And she can't have spent her £30k inheritance on the move, as the OP claims, as she won't have moved many belongings.

The move includes the cost of living over there until you get a job, paying for accommodation, paying to set up bank accounts, phone bills, paying to organise appropriate transport depending on where you move to! It's not just about getting a few bits sent over.

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

OP posts:
Caroparo52 · 06/11/2024 09:44

Just be vague and make positive noises. You've tried to give advice. Its been ignored. This patrern will repeat itself indefinitely. Do yourself a favour and step back emotionally.

OhshutupSimonyounobhead · 06/11/2024 09:45

But you don't seem to like her so why are you friends as pp have asked?

Fireworknight · 06/11/2024 09:46

StudioFocusTricky · 06/11/2024 08:49

Yabu to be obsessing about this person's life to the extent of making a mumsnet post about it. Don't you have enough worries of your own? Live your own life.

Don't get sucked into giving her more help or advice than you can easily spare if she starts asking. She's not your responsibility.

Yes, I agree. She’s not your responsibility, but for some reason she seems to need you to support her. Maybe time to cut the apron strings.

Is she wanting ‘permission’ to come home , or wanting you to sort out her mess? How I see it, she has three options.

  1. Do nothing and just tick along as she is
  2. Make changes in Australia to improve things, eg change jobs, etc (but only she can do that)
  3. Leave , ie return to UK

However, these are her problems to solve, not yours.

Amyknows · 06/11/2024 09:47

Tell her to ask mum and dad to bail her out?

You can't advise people like her. She makes stupid decisions without any thought, and you can't change her thought process. She's done something huge like immigrating but not nearly as mature enough, so you really can't help her in any way.

Iamnotalemming · 06/11/2024 09:48

She needs to work it out for herself. You might think you're being supportive but we all have a tendency to give advice on the basis of what we would do, which isn't the same as what she could or would want to do. Take a step back.

Purplewarrior · 06/11/2024 09:50

So why did you write that she’s emigrated to Australia? She’s just working there for a year with a fixed return date.

You sound incredibly jealous of her.

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