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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

OP posts:
295bkq · 06/11/2024 09:50

You don’t like her - there’s nothing you can do to help anyway. Why are you still in contact with her?

JC03745 · 06/11/2024 09:51

Which part of Aus is she in? Its as big as Europe, so the cost in 1 city can be vastly different to another, and yes, its more expensive that people realise!

OP- you made it sound like she has emigrated permanently, not that she is on a working holiday visa! If you don't like her, then don't have contact!

bitsalty · 06/11/2024 09:52

It actually sounds like she's very much impacted by her ADHD. She's struggling because everything feels harder for her due to her condition.

I agree with others that you don't like her and sound incredibly judgmental so maybe just end the friendship.

Letsgodancing · 06/11/2024 09:54

I think the Australian dream is not what it once was, I've seen many videos online of people excited to go there, than once they get there it's expensive, a big housing crisis (some say even worse than UK) and not as easier as it once as to pick up jobs. I'm sure many people do go out there and it's the best decision for them but most countries right now have similar issues to the UK especially in housing.
It can be hard to say it wasn't for me but your friend will figure it out, her parents will get her back to UK. There's many expat groups out there on social media which I'm sure advises on the hard stuff so advise her in that direction.
Or maybe it will take her time and australia will be the place for her long term or the learning curve she needs

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:55

JC03745 · 06/11/2024 09:51

Which part of Aus is she in? Its as big as Europe, so the cost in 1 city can be vastly different to another, and yes, its more expensive that people realise!

OP- you made it sound like she has emigrated permanently, not that she is on a working holiday visa! If you don't like her, then don't have contact!

She has. She went out there to not come back and to live there permanently via sponsorship.

OP posts:
Katiesaidthat · 06/11/2024 09:55

SilkyWoo · 06/11/2024 09:27

Working holiday visa. Totally normal.

Interesting, but that isn´t emigrating!

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 06/11/2024 09:56

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

She job hops constantly and works in admin but her company would go through the trouble of sponsoring her?

DyslexicPoster · 06/11/2024 09:59

I have a friend who makes choices I wouldn't that end badly. That's just her way as it's a series of the same mistakes. I offer advice if asked for but don't expect her to follow it. Thing is my friend doesn't pick holes in my choices in return. Sometimes I just go along as that is what she wants to hear.

So in your shoes I'd advise her to try longer but ultimately if she refuses to listen you either agree with her if you love her or you distance yourself. It's her life to fuck up however sad it is to watch.

Lostsadandconfused · 06/11/2024 09:59

If she only went recently, what on earth has she spent the equivalent of AUD 60K on??

Falalalalah · 06/11/2024 10:00

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:42

@Falalalalah She's on a year working visa, that's how she's managed to move there. She also had a job back home that could sponsor her in Aus, but she doesn't want to do it because it was too stressful

OK, but then she's basically on an extended working holiday -- it's far from unusual for people who do that to not have been to Australia before, because they're not emigrating, they're just having a longer than usual trip. It's no big deal, and there are no repercussions for her being unhappy and returning home, other than it having involved blowing her inheritance.

Lostsadandconfused · 06/11/2024 10:01

Heidi2018 · 06/11/2024 09:32

A large number of people I know have moved over to Australia without ever preciously visiting it (in fact my OH's first time on a plane was to fly to Australia for a year!), they all went out on working holiday visas and got their visas extended after a year, the vast majority were home sick for the first 2 months (totally natural as moving to a brand new continent, country, other side of the world is a BIG fucking move!!!!), and a fair few of my female friends that went got their hair done before they went because Australia is notorious for expensive hairdressers....... OP you do not sound like she is your friend at all! A horrible, judgey post, you clearly think you are better than her, just cut the friendship off now. Ask yourself genuinely why are you trying to maintain a relationship with a person you clearly have little respect for!

Edited

We do have hairdressers here and I can tell you none of them charge 1000 bucks for a colour job.

TerryKirby · 06/11/2024 10:03

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:27

A close friend of mine

this is your version of a close friendship? the two of you don’t seem to even like one another

Close doesnt mean you have to agree with their decisions.

I have close friends who are totally opposite to me and do things I never would - and I tell them. And vice versa.

The fact OP has posted for advice shows she wants to help but also is fed up. Totally understandable

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 10:04

sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 09:55

She has. She went out there to not come back and to live there permanently via sponsorship.

hold up

her skills are so in need that she has been sponsored by an oz country

oh man… op you are so clearly green with envy

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 10:05

TerryKirby · 06/11/2024 10:03

Close doesnt mean you have to agree with their decisions.

I have close friends who are totally opposite to me and do things I never would - and I tell them. And vice versa.

The fact OP has posted for advice shows she wants to help but also is fed up. Totally understandable

read the op

the dislike the op has for this person drips off the page

Plum02 · 06/11/2024 10:07

It’s only been a month. There are always struggles moving abroad but it’s generally worth it.

My sister moved to Australia 12 years ago planning to just stay for 1 or 2 years and has never looked back. She’s built an amazing life there with a beautiful house in an idealistic suburb a short walk to the most stunning beach, a short train ride into the city and she’s built a great career and it’s a wonderful place for her DS to grow up. A month into moving she was working in an estate agents having taken a massive step back in her career and renting a 2 bed flat.

I’ve lived abroad twice for a couple of years each time, always planned to be short-term for work reasons. There were times I felt isolated and found it incredibly tough but they’re also the best experiences of my life and I have no regrets.

Good on her for taking the risk. It’s totally normal to have a wobble and doubt whether you’ve done the right thing one month in but she’ll get past that and it will be worth it!

Having said that, you don’t sound like you wish the best for her and I do wonder why you’re friends!

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 06/11/2024 10:07

If you don't like who she is then you are under no obligation to be friends with her. Just wish her well and cut her loose.

Citrusandginger · 06/11/2024 10:09

It sounds like the consequences of living with an impulsive decision aren't working out. Which isn't the biggest surprise. The issue is for her though OP and not you. Your decision is whether you wish to continue the friendship.

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:10

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:32

Your parents sound abusive

Wow. You cannot seriously think parents telling a 25yo to spend 12 whole months trying to make a go of life is abusive.

Codlingmoths · 06/11/2024 10:11

You just say ‘keep trying and something will work out.’

Tittat50 · 06/11/2024 10:12

OP, I wouldn't want a friend like you who came on MN over this. It's really harsh. This really doesn't read as a friend who is concerned.

If you're finding behaviours too much then definitely distance yourself and availability.

Alot of the behaviours you don't approve of will be very much informed by her ADHD.

I agree it's best you just focus on your own life now. It sounds like she's having enough struggles as it is.

When she says things you don't like, as a friend, just tell her that it feels like a dig. See how she reacts if you really do want a friendship.

OssieShowman · 06/11/2024 10:15

Cost of living crisis here, Housing rental crisis, jobs hard to come by.
No surprises that she is not happy here.

sonjadog · 06/11/2024 10:15

You tell her that she has only been there a month, homesickness is natural, and to go out and give it a real chance. Give it 6 months, for example, and then she can see how she feels then.

People live their lives in different ways, not everyone has to do what you think is best. Your friend does not have to take your advice, she is her own person. Your post reads like you think less of her for not taking the choices you would have made.

Apolloneuro · 06/11/2024 10:16

You’ve written nothing positive about her, which makes me wonder why you consider yourselves friends?

If she does have ADHD, it massively causes issues you describe and I take personal offence at you calling it an excuse.

I think I’d spend time looking in the mirror at yourself, rather than others.

Gardendiary · 06/11/2024 10:18

Don’t underestimate the impact that being neurodivergent can have on navigating every day life. You sound quite smug about how sorted you are whilst entirely glossing over this point.

Aimtodobetter · 06/11/2024 10:20

Be sympathetic but emotionally distance yourself / accept that she is not someone really looking for advice. The only person who can turn her life around is her and its not like the answers aren't obvious - work hard and you can build something for yourself, mess around expecting your dream life to fall into your lap and the world doesn't owe you anything. She must know that - she just chooses not to engage with it so don't waste your energy trying to get her to.