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AIBU to feel frustrated with my friend who’s moved to Australia expecting a miracle?

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sunshinerainbowsgalore · 06/11/2024 08:13

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some perspective here. A close friend of mine recently moved to Australia, and I’m struggling to feel as sympathetic as I think I should. She moved without ever visiting, thinking it would solve all her problems. She used to say how awful England was and how amazing Australia would be. My other friend and I did warn her she might be disappointed, but we didn’t want to be too negative.

Here’s the context: she’s 29, has been to university twice but has never stuck with a job for long. She finds most jobs difficult and often blames her ADHD for why things don’t go well. I do wonder if it’s more about not wanting to commit to work, rather than just ADHD. She’s been very sheltered—never paying her own phone bill and never contributing financially when she lived at home, despite her parents’ struggles.

She’s also made snide comments about the lives me and our other friend have built for ourselves. We both worked hard for our stable incomes, partners, and homes, and she’s been bitter about it at times. In reality, she’s in a much less secure position, having made poor choices along the way. We’ve tried to give her advice for years on how to make better decisions, but she hasn’t listened.

Before moving, she even criticised my home, saying new builds were “rubbish” and that she could never live in one. She always dreamt of a big detached house, but I think she’s starting to realise how much hard work and financial stability are required to achieve that.

She’s already spent her £30k inheritance, which was supposed to be for a house deposit, on this move. She thought Australia would be cheaper, that she’d easily find a good admin job, and that everything would just fall into place. But after just a month, she’s homesick, financially struggling, and realising how expensive things really are. Now she’s asking me and our other friend for advice, but honestly, I’m not sure what to say anymore. She thought moving would solve everything, but now she’s learning that life doesn’t work like that, no matter where you are.

One of the impulsive things she did before leaving was spend £500 bleaching her hair, only to realise she didn’t like it. Now her hair’s ruined, and she doesn’t even know where to find a good hairdresser in Australia to fix it. It’s just another example of how she doesn’t always think things through before making decisions.

She’s even said things like, “Mum and Dad will buy me a place, so it doesn’t matter,” which feels frustrating to hear, as she’s not facing up to the reality of hard work and responsibility. Now, she’s likely to come back broke, jobless, and without a clear plan. I’m really not sure how to help her at this point because it feels like she’s expecting things to work out without putting in the effort.

Am I being unreasonable to feel frustrated, especially when I’ve tried to give her advice for years? Has anyone else had a friend who makes impulsive decisions and never seems to learn? It’s hard to watch someone you care about keep making the same mistakes, but I do want to be there for her, even though it’s tough.

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flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:36

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/11/2024 08:35

Two largely unrelated points but:

a) you clearly don’t like her much and your post is dripping with schadenfreude.
b) you’re probably correct but it might shock some sense into her.

Chances are she will be home in a few months will tail between legs. If she does, don’t tell her you told her so. She’ll have worked that out for herself and you rubbing it in will end what’s left of this friendship.

i think that maybe the op is jealous of her

the op clearly can’t stand the “close friend”

Miffylou · 06/11/2024 08:37

MaggieBsBoat · 06/11/2024 08:25

Totally NBU.

Silly people do silly things. I would be tempted to give it to her straight to be honest. Ask her exactly how she thought her life would magically sort itself out on the other side of the planet?

"NBU"?

mnreader · 06/11/2024 08:37

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LameBorzoi · 06/11/2024 08:39

Also, of course she's miserable, she's been there long enough for the shine to have worn off, but not long enough to have found a groove..

sprigatito · 06/11/2024 08:39

MaggieBsBoat · 06/11/2024 08:25

Totally NBU.

Silly people do silly things. I would be tempted to give it to her straight to be honest. Ask her exactly how she thought her life would magically sort itself out on the other side of the planet?

How pointlessly vindictive. Why not just leave her alone?

SpanThatWorld · 06/11/2024 08:40

Lovelysummerdays · 06/11/2024 08:36

I went to oz on a backpacker visa for a year. Easy to get ( if under 30) you can work. Although I did bar jobs etc. a few people I know got proper jobs and managed to get sponsored and stay. Then eventually got married, Facebook tells me at least two are still out there.

Two of my uni mates did the same.

A third went out to visit and also married an Australian guy but she brought him back here.

Pottedpalm · 06/11/2024 08:41

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:23

you don’t like her
she doesn’t like you
you now live on the other side of the world

quit navel gazing about her 🤷

I agree

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:44

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:32

Your parents sound abusive

Is it a slow morning for you? If I wanted comments on my parents, I would have started my own thread

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:44

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:35

@Catza

* my parents categorically told me I will not be welcome* if you didn’t give it a year

would you say this to your children?

How does this pertain to the OP's question?

OllyBJolly · 06/11/2024 08:45

You sound very smug, OP. So much false angst about a "close friend".

As a PP said, she's probably on a working visa. DD2 did this - once she settled in she had a great time.

Perhaps in a few years OP will look back on her life and regret not doing something bold and adventurous when she was younger.....No doubt when the working visa expires and the "close friend" returns OP will be all "I told you so".

tuvamoodyson · 06/11/2024 08:46

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:35

@Catza

* my parents categorically told me I will not be welcome* if you didn’t give it a year

would you say this to your children?

Mine were the polar opposite! ‘Whatever happens, there will always be a bed for you here!’

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/11/2024 08:47

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StudioFocusTricky · 06/11/2024 08:49

Yabu to be obsessing about this person's life to the extent of making a mumsnet post about it. Don't you have enough worries of your own? Live your own life.

Don't get sucked into giving her more help or advice than you can easily spare if she starts asking. She's not your responsibility.

BuzzieLittleBee · 06/11/2024 08:50

It's fairly easy for under 30s to work in Aus for up to 2 years. She might be using 'emigrate' to describe the move, but she is more than likely on a short term visa.

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:50

I dunno why my post got deleted, but just to reiterate.

your friend would no way have been allowed to stay in the country for an admin job.

you sure she’s not over there on a holiday and pulling your leg?

GoldenPheasant · 06/11/2024 08:51

No point giving her advice, since she didn't listen to your advice before.

TheShellBeach · 06/11/2024 08:52

Chickennuggetjules · 06/11/2024 08:50

I dunno why my post got deleted, but just to reiterate.

your friend would no way have been allowed to stay in the country for an admin job.

you sure she’s not over there on a holiday and pulling your leg?

You were troll hunting. It's against the TGs.

TheShellBeach · 06/11/2024 08:53

GoldenPheasant · 06/11/2024 08:51

No point giving her advice, since she didn't listen to your advice before.

🤣🤣

lechatnoir · 06/11/2024 09:03

@Chickennuggetjules as many posters have already pointed out, if you're under 30 you can get a 1 year working Visa which many young people do and then stay if their employer sponsors them.

OP it really doesn't sound like you care for your 'friend' one bit and disapprove of her lifestyle. Either cut ties now whilst she's the other side of the world, or be a friend and encourage her to stay, get settled, make new friends, secure a job and have fun out there. If she comes back so what, she's done something more adventurous than many people would ever dare to.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 09:03

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:44

How does this pertain to the OP's question?

oh the irony 😆

you posted about what your parents said to you

and now me asking a follow up question about info you provided about your specific situation has you asking relevance

you seem to think that what your parents said was… well something you’d say to your children.

to me? it is the antithesis of what i’d want ringing i. my children’s ears as they head off to the other side of the world 🤷

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 06/11/2024 09:04

TheSandgroper · 06/11/2024 08:29

“You are there because you want to be. I can’t help you from here”. What’s the point of being someone’s lifeboat if they keep jumping out of it? She needs to grow up and you can’t do that for her, adhd or no adhd.

And Australia should be no one’s idea of a magic wand.

I agree, but the person I always bailed out got comfortable in my life boat. Would've been great if they jumped out and swam a bit, but nooo, it was comfy and warm and dry in my boat.

It took me a while to realise that I cannot keep saving her or giving advice.

Someone else suggested that you ask her what solutions she can think off. Just turn it around to her every time.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 09:05

Catza · 06/11/2024 08:44

Is it a slow morning for you? If I wanted comments on my parents, I would have started my own thread

maybe don’t refer to what your parents said to you on a thread started by someone else? 😆

Sethera · 06/11/2024 09:07

Sometimes, you have to sit back and let people make their own mistakes.

It might yet work out for her; but if it doesn't, it might still be better than having lifelong regret about never trying a new life in Australia.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 06/11/2024 09:12

I'm not sure why her choices are causing you so much distress.

You've also said she has ADHD. She won't make decisions the way a neurotyoical person does.

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/11/2024 09:13

TheShellBeach · 06/11/2024 08:52

You were troll hunting. It's against the TGs.

To be fair, MN seem a bit over-enthusiastic with the deletions this morning. My post said that I wasn't sure whether it was genuine but if it was then XYZ. I've seen that wording on many, many posts elsewhere and it's not usually a problem.

But it's been zapped. Seems a bit over-zealous tbh.

I really can't be fucked writing the rest of the post out again so I'm not going to bother.