Poppy on kids sports kits

[HelenHen]

This seems to be a big thing now, but seems very unfair.

How can a kid choose to not wear a poppy if its being handed out by their coach before a game?

Not everybody chooses to wear a poppy, for whatever reason... many people do and that's totally ok... but it seems harder and harder for kids to make the choice.

"It’s disrespectful not to wear a poppy"

Is that not a direct quote from one of your posts?

Feel free to not go and read up about Ireland, but don't come on this thread calling people disrespectful and making passive aggressive comments about how we only have freedom/a voice because of the British Army, when you can't be arsed to even do the slightest bit of research as to why people might not want to wear a poppy. You're the one being disrespecful to be honest.

Yes she also said she feels sorry for our children being brought up by us non-poppy wearers and various other insulting things, but sure, we’re the bullies.

I suspect I may be the reason she's decided we're bullying her because I called her "ill-informed" and "passive-aggressive" but her posts very clearly evidence both those things...!

Don’t be so daft.
It’s simply ignorant not to realise that wearing a poppy is very controversial in parts of the UK.

Poppy fascism

Update:

Anyway she chose not to wear it. She was immediately harassed by her team mates calling her disrespectful. The coach told them to stop and said everyone is allowed to choose. She explained to one girl later who said 'fair enough'.

I was really proud of her though. Not even to do with the poppy, but for learning about something, choosing to do the opposite of everyone else and having strength in her conviction.

It was a very powerful lesson to teach her about peer pressure.

Reading about the annual criticism of James McClean... it just made me even prouder of her... but also worried for her team mates who are not being taught that it's OK to be different.

She sounds great, well done OP. Glad the coach intervened.

Well done @HelenHen it will stand to her but completely appreciate it is challenging as a parent to see.

Thanks guys. Yes it's always worrying when you teach your kids to not be a sheep and go against the societal norm if its what they want to do. It seems these days it has become less and less acceptable.

I love that she is her own person and can speak for herself... but sometimes wonder if it would make for an easier life if I just teach her to go with the flow 😳

Strange times!

I had messaged the coach in advance to ask if she could make it clear that they have a choice. She agreed!

The opposing team didn't wear a poppy. Nor did any of the other teams in our club that I can see. It's just unfortunate that it had to be hers 🙁

Have some respect - because of the people who lost their lives fighting for your freedom you’re able to spout your nonsense. And stop foisting your views onto children who may just choose to respect the sacrifices people made.

Stop foisting your views on other people by mandating how people should perform respect.

You aren't respecting the sacrifice people made to give us our freedom if you deny it to people.

I’m sure OP would have been OK if her child chose to wear a poppy of her own volition.

Perhaps the “must wear poppies” people should stop foisting their views onto children as well?

Have some respect yourself@chocolatemademefat.

There are a lot of very valid reasons for not choosing to wear a poppy (you can look them up) and they’re absolutely nothing to do with not respecting those who died in the WWs.

People should absolutely be free to choose.

It's been discussed at length on the thread, so perhaps read it. But in short, you have no idea why OP's DD doesn't want to wear a poppy (and any reason is acceptable, including "I don't want to"). And you have no idea who died for her freedom.

They didn't give everybody their freedom, though - for many in/from other countries, British Forces were the tools of oppression, colonialism or were actually on the opposite side/occupiers/dropping incendiary bombs on them.

Maybe they did your ancestors. But not everybody is the same as you.

Not bad for something that was an entirely American Import, though. They're normally detested on MN.

Well done @HelenHen and daughter, good parenting and important life lesson!

Over the past couple of weeks, my child has had the poppy forced on her from all angles.

I simply gave her some alternative information... and allowed her to make her own choice... which she did!

Had she chosen to wear the poppy, once she had all the information, I made it clear to her that I would have respected her choice to do so.

Don't presume to know who died for my freedom! Why would you presume that we all share the same history?

Ah, I do wish people would feck off with that bollix. The U.K has a lot to answer for in conflicts all over the world, before and after WW2 which have sod all to do with freedom.

This

What hypocrisy exactly? The charity supports veterans of ongoing horrible conflicts who suffer ongoing physical and mental torment.

Why are you waking up year old threads? Are you seaching 'poppy' to have a good gammony froth?

You're a year late, but well done for agreeing with someone 😁 it was worth the wait.

I’m just surprised some team has the money or a sponsor for a special kit TBH. Though no, of courses kids shouldn’t be made to wear them.

Well, it's still a live issue tbf

Why would they not want to wear one ? Perhaps from you ? I would be distressed if my child did not want to think of all the people who have made the ultimate sacrifice. If you feel strongly remove your kids from the team easy.

maybe as ex services I am biased.