Poppy on kids sports kits

[HelenHen]

This seems to be a big thing now, but seems very unfair.

How can a kid choose to not wear a poppy if its being handed out by their coach before a game?

Not everybody chooses to wear a poppy, for whatever reason... many people do and that's totally ok... but it seems harder and harder for kids to make the choice.

My point was to all the people telling me I don’t know where Derry is and the Irish stance. Posters acting like it’s not a thing, well it is. I understand people may not agree with it there but it doesn’t mean it’s not recognised which is what everyone was getting at me at.

I had several relatives in both worlds wars. One died. I will be forever grateful to them for what they did.

I don't wear a poppy.

thats not how a lot of posts have read back to me.

Individual preferences absolutely should be respected!!

I just think that for someone to not want to wear a poppy is their choice, but it can be done without making it into a huge think. Respectfully declining. I.e. send your child in with the old kit not make a big deal to the sports coach and make out your child is sad to be in this situation when there was no situation to begin with!

Duh. They were the invading army for some of us.

How are people this politically illiterate?

Even if your family was busy being bombed to fuck by the grandparents of the poppy fans? Or they were in a neutral country/colony being shot or starved to death by the countries that the poppy fans come from?

It’s like a counter demo happening at the same time as remembrance parade. Sadly that did happen in the town I grew up in, on Remembrance Sunday by the war memorial people on mopeds sped by waving flags and slogans which was completely inappropriate on Remembrance Day.

I may not agree with the slogans anyway, but I would accept it on another day. To make the point on Remembrance Day was wrong and not what the day was for.

If you don’t want to wear a poppy don’t. But don’t go making it a big deal.

Of course there was a situation.

The "situation" was that wearing a poppy wasn't presented to the child as a choice.

The "situation" was that the presumption was that of course every kid would wear a poppy.

Well, no. Every kid does not need or want to wear a poppy. They should be asked if they want to: "want a poppy? Here you go", or "want a poppy? ok then".

The kids should not have been told that they have to wear one and then argue their case with an adult.

It's recognised in a UK publication, but a politician who if you read anything before her election differs wildly from th company line. So no I don't believe you have a clue.

You think they fought Nazis in WWI?

My grandfather served in WW2 and my other grandparents were evacuees.

My family has been through enough wars too.

I’ll wear my poppy to be thankful for what my grandad fought for.

I wouldn’t be here otherwise.

No but they did have to wear the black life’s matter badge on their shirt for a time.

amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/10/premier-league-drop-black-lives-matter-badge-from-shirts-for-own-campaign

I didn’t say I was clued up on NI. I did say that Remembrance Day is still marked there which other posters have tried to dismiss me saying.

Right. You don’t like poppies. Got it.

On the ground is very different. Maybe listen to those on the island and not the crap spouted in English usually publications.

Are you seriously saying that supporting the British Army regardless of the harms they've done to peoples around the world is the same thing as wanting black people to have the same rights as white people? Are you really?

Or are you merely making a point about badges and stickers and other things attached to clothes? Because if you are, God help us all.

When given the article you linked stated that it was the first time a SF first minister attended a remembrance event surely you can acknowledge that no, it has nowhere near the same level of recognition in NI as England.

@JaneDoeHere that's not all you said. When someone said do you know where Derry is you said "It is simply ignorant not to wear one in the UK". So clearly you've not a notion of the "Irish stance" as you call it. Nice one referring to 100s of years of oppression as the Irish stance by the way.

Hope all you anti poppy lot will cope just fine on the 11th.

Like I said, I’ll be remembering my granddad who was brave enough to fight in WW2.

I will be grateful that my family survived during the war and that I am here today.

I hope for your sakes, the pot doesn’t end up black one day.

Like I said, I’ll be remembering my granddad who was brave enough to fight in WW2.

My granddad also fought in WW2, if you want to go down that route. I don’t need a piece of red paper to remember him.

And nobody here has said those who want to shouldn’t wear poppies. So how is that anti-poppy?

And one of mine was a groom for the Warhorses of WWI (he never wore a poppy because he believed that poppies and all the pomp and circumstance of parades and marches and services were nothing but the glorification of war). His future wife was hidden in a convent in Belgium whilst the Sisters were having to deal with soldiers of both sides over the period - and the girls were hidden from both sides for very good reason.

Doesn't mean I'm incapable of seeing for a person of Irish, Bengali, German/Austrian/Italian or many, many other nationalities that they might not feel quite so enthusiastic about a literally American import that caught on in the 1920s and the apparently compulsory 'but Our Boys!' stuff that bubbles up every year.

It is still marked BY SOME PEOPLE. That's literally the point. No-one has said that no-one in NI wears a poppy. But a lot choose not to.

Anyone else getting the irony here??
Without their sacrifice you may not have been able to voice "other views"
Im sure your kinds would be less happy in the Hitler youth.

The problem is, it IS a big deal. Haven't certain broadcasters been berated for not wearing one on air?
Poppy wearing should be a choice for adults and children, not enforced.

Honestly your ignorance of the horrors that were inflicted on innocent civilians is absolutely breathtaking.

I strongly suggest you pick up an Irish book and read the real story of the so called heros.

How they shot children in their back, dragged women out of houses never to be seen again.

Maybe with some education you will have the shame to hang your head.

Good for you. You wear a poppy. No-one is saying you can't.

I am not "anti poppy" - you go ahead and wear one. I am anti everyone being pressured - by ill informed passive aggressive people like you - to wear a symbol of support for the British armed forces.