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To be convinced I’m going to have a child with autism

159 replies

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 16:21

Sorry if this offends, i really don’t mean it to.

Im pregnant, at 40. I have adhd and DH has probably adhd / autism. He has a lot of Autism in his family, some quite severe with neices not being able to go to school etc.

we wanted this child but now it’s a possibility I am so scared the child will be profoundly autistic like his family members. I just can’t see how I would cope, and even though it sounds mean, I just don’t want to live like that - they are now adults and unable to live independent lives, it’s hugely worrying and stifling. I don’t think the pandemic helped. All they do is play video games and they have no interest in human interaction at all.

being ND myself I get easily overwhelmed and worried about things and I know I wouldn’t cope well.

on top of this the enormity of motherhood has me very anxious too, what if I miss my life? I like my life! And my alone time - a lot of it.

on the other hand I love children and have felt for a while that I won’t feel fulfilled without one. Like life is sort of pointless even tho I do enjoy mine. Having the closeness of being a mum looks lovely. All these thoughts have disappeared with my anxieties tho and I am just filled with dread and fear.

I am honestly considering a termination because of this anxiety and being convinced I will have an autistic child.

am I being silly?
how do others cope with these worries?
are there any specific kinds of counsellors I should see? It seems generic counsellors can’t help.

im at a loss of what to do.

yabu - you are worrying too much
yanbu - you are right to be worried

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Cheshireicecream · 04/11/2024 16:53

bryceQ · 04/11/2024 16:44

I have a severely autistic child. It's hard work and our life has changed beyond measure but not once have I ever wished he hadn't been born. He is a joy and my beloved son despite how hard it is. The love I feel for him is the strongest feeling in my life. It's made DH and I's relationship really strong and we are happy despite the daily struggles.

I found the opposite tbh. Having DC with additional needs wrecked my marriage. Most of my friends with disabled children are divorced/separated. I think it's a far more common scenario.

x2boys · 04/11/2024 16:54

bryceQ · 04/11/2024 16:44

I have a severely autistic child. It's hard work and our life has changed beyond measure but not once have I ever wished he hadn't been born. He is a joy and my beloved son despite how hard it is. The love I feel for him is the strongest feeling in my life. It's made DH and I's relationship really strong and we are happy despite the daily struggles.

Me too and I love him more than life itself but these threads are frustrsting as they rarely acknowledge how disabling autism can be for some people.

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 16:54

Honestly I was terrified of having a child with autism, and it was a roll the dice situation. So YANBU.

Devilsmommy · 04/11/2024 16:54

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 16:49

Oh shut up. Of course I thought it though. ‘Waited for 40’ - how about started trying 8 years ago and had given up thinking it wouldn’t happen?

No need for the aggressive shut up. If you really did think it through then you wouldn't all of a sudden be wondering if your child would be ND with that family background or questioning to get a termination. I'm sorry you tried for so long and it only just worked out but maybe you need to have a real talk with your DH about whether he's also ready for a child who could quite possibly be autistic too. I wish you all the best as I know it's a shit situation to be in

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 16:55

I think there is a need

accusing someone of ‘waiting till 40’ deserved a ‘shut up.’

Falalalalah · 04/11/2024 17:00

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 16:49

Oh shut up. Of course I thought it though. ‘Waited for 40’ - how about started trying 8 years ago and had given up thinking it wouldn’t happen?

But surely this gave you even more time to think through the implications, both for you as a parent to any kind of child, and of your likelihood of bearing a child with autism?

Nobody can reassure you that you will cope with motherhood, or that you will give birth to a child you can cope with. There's no test.

Do the reasons that you wanted a child in the first place, and spent eight years trying to conceive, stack up against your fears? I was 40 when I had DS and my father is autistic, plus my best friend is married to an autistic man (only diagnosed in his 40s when his two sons were) and the mother of two autistic sons. I thought about the risk before TTC, and decided I would be able to cope with what came.

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:00

caylamm · 04/11/2024 16:45

I feel like everyone is going to pile on here but I see if that you're just being honest and seeking support, so please ignore some of these replies!

Becoming a mother is hard enough and many people are loaded with all of these same worries about missing their life etc. For some this is extreme and their mental health takes a real nose dive during pregnancy. Antenatal depression and anxiety are real and deserve support. It sounds like you're suffering from both. You can't see the positives anymore despite this being a previously much wanted child. And you're completely overwhelmed with anxiety.

I think the chances of you having a child with such severe autism that they can't enjoy any part of their life is slim. People with autism can, and do, live very happy & meaningful lives. I'm so sorry your DH has found things hard. But that isn't always the case.
I think when you meet your child you will just absolutely adore them, no matter what, and you will be ready to be there for them and support them, no matter what. If they do have autism, they will have the perfect parent who understand being ND and therefore know how to provide real support. Maybe that way they would find it less hard.
Parenting is hard always, so I'm not trivialising that. But if you have wanted to be a mother then I think you should go for it. However, I think you should be referred for support for anxiety ASAP.
If you refer to pregnancy decision making team then you get your discuss your worries with a psychologist and maybe that would benefit you? They can help you decide how you want to proceed? Then hopefully if you go ahead with pregnancy you could get a referral to health psychology asap? Or your local IAPT service? I think you need to talk all of this through with a professional asap.

I think posting on here will sadly only mess with your head more and make you feel ashamed to share your worries!
I really wish you the best of luck whatever you decide

Thank you. This is very sage and accurate advice. I am already being piled on by the usual ppl who just like to be nasty, I will ignore! But you’re right, professional counselling is the way. I’ve already self referred to iapt and spoken to my employee assistance line. Have also asked a fertility counsellor to let me know availability for private sessions.

I have PMDD so I get very stressed with hormonal changes. I think this might be behind my anxiety as I was feeling fine a week ago when I found out!

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EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:02

Falalalalah · 04/11/2024 17:00

But surely this gave you even more time to think through the implications, both for you as a parent to any kind of child, and of your likelihood of bearing a child with autism?

Nobody can reassure you that you will cope with motherhood, or that you will give birth to a child you can cope with. There's no test.

Do the reasons that you wanted a child in the first place, and spent eight years trying to conceive, stack up against your fears? I was 40 when I had DS and my father is autistic, plus my best friend is married to an autistic man (only diagnosed in his 40s when his two sons were) and the mother of two autistic sons. I thought about the risk before TTC, and decided I would be able to cope with what came.

This was my attitude before conceiving - I knew the risks and felt DH and I were well placed to manage them.

but now it’s actually happening I’m terrified - pregnancy hormones not helping I’m sure, I have an extreme reaction to hormones at the best of times.

hence asking for reassurance here but of course the usual suspects start the nasty pile-ons!

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EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:05

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 16:55

I think there is a need

accusing someone of ‘waiting till 40’ deserved a ‘shut up.’

Yea this @Devilsmommy. you should think more carefully before trying to make someone in a really horrible situation feel even more shit.

I felt fine with the prospect hence trying - tho as it hadn’t happened for so long I assumed it wouldn’t and was looking into adoption.

Pregnancy hormones are not helping, and I feel different now to before we fell pregnant.

I think I have been triggered by seeing DH’s neices yesterday and being reminded of how difficult things are for them. We are all so concerned for them and it’s horribly worrying.

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flipdiddle81 · 04/11/2024 17:06

has your husband always been keen for a child OP given how you describe his extreme struggles with his mental health over many years

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:06

ThatsNotMyTeen · 04/11/2024 16:34

Oh dear, bless you!

pregnancy wobbles are normal and yes you may miss elements of your old life but you can get a lot of it back as they get bigger.

and you may have a child with autism - tbh I never considered that I might, but guess what I do. We’ve had some struggles with him I’m not going to lie but he’s in mainstream school
and quite independent and doing well. I certainly don’t wish I’d never had him.

I am sure you’ll be OK

Thank you.

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TinyBlueHoe · 04/11/2024 17:08

My friend was in the same position, she decided to continue with the pregnancy.

Her son does have autism which she expected, he is quite affected and goes to a special school. I don't think he'll ever be able to live independently but she's really glad she had him, he is her world!

She worries about who will look after him when she's gone, though.

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:08

MammaKel · 04/11/2024 16:38

I have a child with a genetic condition and ASD - he's easier than my non autistic child (although I have my suspicions).

Every child whether they have ND or not are different, some are hard, some are chill and everything in-between.

Your life will absolutely change, alone time becomes more challenging especially in the earlier years.

If having a child isn't something you think you can cope with then a termination might be the right choice for you because once they're here, that's it, you have to just get on with it.

That being said, I wouldn't change anything about my life and I was very similar to you.

It’s something I definitely felt ready for before falling pregnant, so I suspect this anxiety is somewhat hormonal.

I’ve also been super fixated on having a miscarriage, go figure!

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flipdiddle81 · 04/11/2024 17:09

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:08

It’s something I definitely felt ready for before falling pregnant, so I suspect this anxiety is somewhat hormonal.

I’ve also been super fixated on having a miscarriage, go figure!

yes you did

but your husband given how you describe his struggles?

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:10

x2boys · 04/11/2024 16:54

Me too and I love him more than life itself but these threads are frustrsting as they rarely acknowledge how disabling autism can be for some people.

Edited

Yes. This. I have two sets of friends who are shadows of their former selves because life is just so utterly hard for them. They can’t leave the house, go on holiday, invite people round, will have to look after their children forever (one is non verbal and unable to be in school, the other not so bad but still has severely affected my friends mental health)

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EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:11

TinyBlueHoe · 04/11/2024 17:08

My friend was in the same position, she decided to continue with the pregnancy.

Her son does have autism which she expected, he is quite affected and goes to a special school. I don't think he'll ever be able to live independently but she's really glad she had him, he is her world!

She worries about who will look after him when she's gone, though.

Yes my friends have this worry. I would really struggle with that.

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EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:12

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 16:54

Honestly I was terrified of having a child with autism, and it was a roll the dice situation. So YANBU.

How did it work out?

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IVFmumoftwo · 04/11/2024 17:13

Isn't it a risk that any child could have a disability when you are pregnant? They could have a disability as a result of birth. You just have to cross your fingers really and hope for the best. I get quite cross at the "Autism is a super power" brigade as for a fair few people it significantly affects everyday life but many others have normal lives. My husband is definitely on the spectrum but has a job and family. My nephew on the other hand is unlikely to completely independent.

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:13

Cheshireicecream · 04/11/2024 16:53

I found the opposite tbh. Having DC with additional needs wrecked my marriage. Most of my friends with disabled children are divorced/separated. I think it's a far more common scenario.

Or trapped in marriages where neither feel they can leave as life would be so hard solo parenting. I know one couple in this situation.

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TinyBlueHoe · 04/11/2024 17:14

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:11

Yes my friends have this worry. I would really struggle with that.

To be honest though all parents feel that!

Seeing it through my eyes, I wouldn't want a child that struggled so much, who would? (she has had to fight and fight for help) but I think when they're yours, you love them and would do anything for them.

So yes, it might be really hard, but you won't mind! And equally it might not be as difficult as you think.

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 17:14

I think a lot of posters don’t understand how antenatal depression can be a real thing. In my pregnancy i fixated on not wanting a boy which I feel awful about now but those feelings were very real and at the time very scary.

The whole point of feelings is that’s what they are - you feel a certain way and they don’t always respond to logic. And attempts to make people feel bad for feeling them are futile as mostly the person already feels bad but they still feel the feelings.

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:14

IVFmumoftwo · 04/11/2024 17:13

Isn't it a risk that any child could have a disability when you are pregnant? They could have a disability as a result of birth. You just have to cross your fingers really and hope for the best. I get quite cross at the "Autism is a super power" brigade as for a fair few people it significantly affects everyday life but many others have normal lives. My husband is definitely on the spectrum but has a job and family. My nephew on the other hand is unlikely to completely independent.

Yes, any birth is a risk 100% which is why I feel my pregnant hormones may be doing a number on me.

were you worried about autism if you tried for a baby?

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EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:15

Itdidgetabitmuch · 04/11/2024 17:14

I think a lot of posters don’t understand how antenatal depression can be a real thing. In my pregnancy i fixated on not wanting a boy which I feel awful about now but those feelings were very real and at the time very scary.

The whole point of feelings is that’s what they are - you feel a certain way and they don’t always respond to logic. And attempts to make people feel bad for feeling them are futile as mostly the person already feels bad but they still feel the feelings.

Yes, this!!

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InterIgnis · 04/11/2024 17:16

It’s a legitimate worry to have. Only you can decide whether to go ahead with the pregnancy or not. Even if planned, you’re not wrong if you change your mind now it’s out of the realm of the purely theoretical.

EalingLucy · 04/11/2024 17:16

TinyBlueHoe · 04/11/2024 17:14

To be honest though all parents feel that!

Seeing it through my eyes, I wouldn't want a child that struggled so much, who would? (she has had to fight and fight for help) but I think when they're yours, you love them and would do anything for them.

So yes, it might be really hard, but you won't mind! And equally it might not be as difficult as you think.

My friends mind tho. I think that’s what scares me. They’ve been badly affected by it.

my sister in law and her partner handle it better I think. But they are so on the spectrum themselves I think it suits them to have children who also don’t like change etc.

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