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"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

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OonaStubbs · 04/11/2024 21:02

Just ban all dogs. Then no-one would be killed by dogs.

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 21:03

KoalaCalledKevin · 04/11/2024 21:00

But it's the young Mothers with these 'fur babies' who claim to love their children and seem to be totally lacking in any sort of critical thinking whereby defenceless children and a dog with the potential to kill aren't a match made in heaven. I can't wrap my head round the thinking behind it.

Some people are stupid.

I don't really see any other explanation because there really cannot be any actually thought through sense behind it.

There's so many other lovely breeds out there. Why go for the one that's the most likely by far to kill your children and yourself?! There is absolutely no sense in it which I just can't understand. Why would any Mother put their own children at risk? Or do they really genuinely not see the risk? If so how?!

Ghosttofu99 · 04/11/2024 21:04

This is all terrifying me.

Post lockdown I had a spate of dogs trying to jump on my baby. One had her hand in its mouth (she had food in her hand) This put me off taking her to parks for a long time.

Things have improved recently but I still wonder what I would do if a dog was attacking. Chuck her over a railing maybe…

MammaKel · 04/11/2024 21:05

OonaStubbs · 04/11/2024 21:02

Just ban all dogs. Then no-one would be killed by dogs.

By that logic .. we should ban people? Household appliances? Water?!

Everything has the ability to kill a person but sensible people minimise their risk as much as they can and from what I can tell, XL bullies are ticking time bombs and its a case of when rather than if.

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 21:06

Ghosttofu99 · 04/11/2024 21:04

This is all terrifying me.

Post lockdown I had a spate of dogs trying to jump on my baby. One had her hand in its mouth (she had food in her hand) This put me off taking her to parks for a long time.

Things have improved recently but I still wonder what I would do if a dog was attacking. Chuck her over a railing maybe…

It is awful that we're now trying to think of how we'd defend ourselves against an attack, yet in reality these dogs take a bullet and keep powering on. It really is insane that it's got to this stage where there's so many that seemed to appear within the last year or two- pre Covid I'd never heard of them

McSilkson · 04/11/2024 21:06

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 20:58

The psychology of it is interesting. I get the thug image and why they want a killing machine.

But it's the young Mothers with these 'fur babies' who claim to love their children and seem to be totally lacking in any sort of critical thinking whereby defenceless children and a dog with the potential to kill aren't a match made in heaven. I can't wrap my head round the thinking behind it.

Well, sadly, you get mothers who claim to love their children and yet bring dangerous/dodgy men into their homes, as well.

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 21:08

McSilkson · 04/11/2024 21:06

Well, sadly, you get mothers who claim to love their children and yet bring dangerous/dodgy men into their homes, as well.

Very true

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 21:08

McSilkson · 04/11/2024 20:54

They're about as delusional as those women who write love letters to serial killers (of women) in prison. In fact, I think the psychology is very similar: "I can fix him". "He'd never hurt me."

I've known a couple of women with a history of dating bad men who've been hopelessly devoted to dangerous dogs. Pathological.

Very like the deranged woman that the horse trainer (Buck?) met
She had something like 15 colts and got off on having “Stallions”.

One particularly who disrespected humans as had been raised with a human bottle feeding it.

Buck said “ Lady, this horse tells me a lot about YOU”

The colt attacked a male trainer who put psychological pressure on it.

Hybristophilia (?) the name given to these women who are attracted to dangerous men/ dogs/ horses.

An arrogance that they alone can “Tame” them or nurture them.

HarrisObviously · 04/11/2024 21:10

Well now there's a pit bull on the loose near Spalding in Lincolnshire.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36p5xlnxy3o

Errors · 04/11/2024 21:12

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 21:06

It is awful that we're now trying to think of how we'd defend ourselves against an attack, yet in reality these dogs take a bullet and keep powering on. It really is insane that it's got to this stage where there's so many that seemed to appear within the last year or two- pre Covid I'd never heard of them

After reading this thread earlier I was trying to imagine what I would do to protect my son if we were ever to come across one. I thought about telling him to climb on top of a car if there was one or putting him up in a tree or something. I know, it sounds ridiculous but it’s almost like I’m trying to come up with a ‘plan’ should it happen.
Dont get me wrong, I know that it is statistically unlikely but it’s really got to me!

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 21:15

Ghosttofu99 · 04/11/2024 21:04

This is all terrifying me.

Post lockdown I had a spate of dogs trying to jump on my baby. One had her hand in its mouth (she had food in her hand) This put me off taking her to parks for a long time.

Things have improved recently but I still wonder what I would do if a dog was attacking. Chuck her over a railing maybe…

For an awful minute I thought “ My baby” was a dog you were referring to being jumped on by other dogs

But dogs were attempting to get to your CHILD-
That’s absolutely appalling.

My friend was pushing her toddler and baby in a buggy and an English Bull terrier came barrelling out of a park and flew at the baby, overturning the buggy.
Both children had injuries.

She said it was like grappling with a pig 🐖

It’s owner came up and beat it off with a chain he was carrying.

He was on a ban for keeping dogs ( dog fighting)
at the time.

Her children are teenagers now, but even now she keeps a weather eye out for that type of dog.

icelolly12 · 04/11/2024 21:16

Errors · 04/11/2024 21:12

After reading this thread earlier I was trying to imagine what I would do to protect my son if we were ever to come across one. I thought about telling him to climb on top of a car if there was one or putting him up in a tree or something. I know, it sounds ridiculous but it’s almost like I’m trying to come up with a ‘plan’ should it happen.
Dont get me wrong, I know that it is statistically unlikely but it’s really got to me!

I feel the same way. I feel sick with fear at the thought of coming across one in the street, and no doubt it would sense my nerves which would be a recipe for disaster. Awful for anyone living next door to one. Really can't fathom people keeping them as pets, I do think the parents should be charged with manslaughter to set a precedent.

Probsnot · 04/11/2024 21:17

The difficult thing compared to driving is the monitoring.

In order for a car to be worth having you have to have it in public. You drive it on public roads where there is always the possibility of cameras, remote operated things that scan thousands of cars a day.

You might be able to get fake plates etc which people do but it's a lot of hassle and not really something your typical ambivalent person can be bothered to do. Most cars are taxed and insured. Things like the right person driving and, not driving under the influence are far more common because you have to physically stop a car to check

I've never been breathalysed or had my insurance checked and know lots of people who risk it because they know the chances of being stopped are tiny. Equally things like motorised escooters are completely illegal on public roads but completely common despite being blantent because there's no real interest in them (especially in estates like mine!)

Things like dog laws are much harder. If you licence dogs, how would it ever be checked when current laws are so definitely broken?

You don't want to have people avoiding vets when animals need it. Checking in Things like vets or parks just encourages people to hide sick animals or rarely walk and train them

Toastandbutterand · 04/11/2024 21:20

DopeyS · 04/11/2024 20:59

@Toastandbutterand they don't often bark. As they are derived from fighting dogs basically they've been bred to hide the fact they are going to attack. There are lots of videos of attacks and a lot to attacked people say that they suddenly snapped and it's like they go into a zone. They don't growl, bark or display warnings often. Although a lot of videos with people hugging you can see "whale eye" which is when they show the whites of their eyes. There was a man in his 50s who was killed protecting his mum when his neighbours dogs escaped. There's a video of him being attacked and it is absolutely heartbreaking.

They also hyper fixate and despite other moving targets will continue after their target. There are videos of bullies and pits attacking horses, being kicked and continuing.

So many attacks, not just here but globally from pitbulls and their derivatives and yet there's a loud section of people who scream and wail that it's "doggy racism" that th government is doing it because they don't want people having dogs that can protect them. That pits used to be nanny dogs and they only attack because they're abused. There's a woman in America that had two as pets from puppies and at 8 years old they flipped and killed both of her children. Yet the pit lovers ask how the children triggered the attack. It's just gross.

I'm glad you're all telling me this stuff!

I literally had no idea, I thought that because their dog was quiet it was placid!

Toastandbutterand · 04/11/2024 21:23

Errors · 04/11/2024 21:12

After reading this thread earlier I was trying to imagine what I would do to protect my son if we were ever to come across one. I thought about telling him to climb on top of a car if there was one or putting him up in a tree or something. I know, it sounds ridiculous but it’s almost like I’m trying to come up with a ‘plan’ should it happen.
Dont get me wrong, I know that it is statistically unlikely but it’s really got to me!

Yes, that's what I'm trying to do!

I don't have a lot to do with dogs but I see more and more of them and I'd like at least a little plan if I see one turn.

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 21:25

LadyGabriella · 04/11/2024 20:59

The child’s family needs to be tried for manslaughter/murder. They have let that girl down so badly.

I agree. At the same time all this post event stuff is really getting to me

We KNOW what they can do. How many deaths do we need to change the fact they can be unpredictable weapons

This isn't directed at you, just in general. I feel so frustrated by these deaths

DopeyS · 04/11/2024 21:36

I genuinely fear what would happen if I bumped into one. I have a chihuahua and he got attacked by a German shepherd last year. Luckily I read the body language of dog and owner and had moved the side he was on. The dog ran into me and got his teeth in my dog's puffy coat. It shook me up so much. I reported to police but heard absolutely nothing and they said it was classed as a dog attack. The photo wasn't a bit it was the German shepherd running into my leg and me blocking it to protect my dog. I dread to think what that impact would have done if it had run directly into my 4kg chihuahua. I think a lot of dog owners are getting fed up of having to worry about their dogs being attacked as well. These dogs always seem to be escaping too and running loose.

"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death
mildlysweaty · 04/11/2024 21:42

This account is terrifying

www.instagram.com/meko_xlbully?igsh=d2ZvczA3enoweGcx

All comments are positive towards the wonderful loving xl bullies

Chilling!!

Gloriaamericanfamily · 04/11/2024 21:48

Poor girl, how terrified she must have been!
I don't believe a word that comes out of her mum's mouth (that the dog was loving),agree the parents must be prosecuted for at least manslaughter.
I don't think there is one small child wanting that kind of pet, must be "bright" parent/s idea
Edited for typos

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 04/11/2024 21:57

Anyone who has these things at home alongside kids are negligent.

Fizbosshoes · 04/11/2024 22:02

There are all the ones who insist their dog would never hurt a fly, or was just a gentle giant and it's so out of character etc etc

...but occassionally (worse) you get owners who knowingly take on a dog with a history of aggression. There was fatality a year or so ago where the owner had got a dog from a pub, that was known to be aggressive. He then asked a friend to look after it (why tf they agreed is another matter) and within days of the owner getting it, it killed a young child who visited the house, or was playing in the yard. In this case the owner was jailed for not very long

Errors · 04/11/2024 22:06

mildlysweaty · 04/11/2024 21:42

This account is terrifying

www.instagram.com/meko_xlbully?igsh=d2ZvczA3enoweGcx

All comments are positive towards the wonderful loving xl bullies

Chilling!!

Oh wow, that’s ridiculous!! Just saw a video of it sitting while kids are waving sparklers around. Yep, stellar parenting choices 🙄

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 04/11/2024 22:07

I thought the advice was the strangle these dogs to release the jaw grip. Wrap something around the neck and suffocate it.

Errors · 04/11/2024 22:12

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 04/11/2024 22:07

I thought the advice was the strangle these dogs to release the jaw grip. Wrap something around the neck and suffocate it.

Yes people have suggested twisting the collar until they let go but I’m not sure this works with this dog breed. Their neck is pure muscle and it’d be hard going to do it if you were the one being attacked

Blueballinthegarden · 04/11/2024 22:14

There are two of them who live on our estate. The owner (one of them anyway) seems to be on a mission to convince people how wonderful the dog is and how sad it is that it has to be muzzled. If I lived next door to them I’d put my house up for sale, it’s bad enough feeling judged by the owner when I cross the street with my kids and I have no interest in being lectured how loving and soft his dog is. Your dogs life isn’t as valuable as my children’s. Social media is frightening enough when everyone jumps on the xl bandwagon. A few weeks ago someone in a nearby town had two xl’s that broke out of the garden and were freely wandering the streets and were publicly posted on Facebook words to the effect of ‘the little rascals are back home now’ blah blah blah. The dogs/owner should have been reported and the dogs destroyed because clearly the owner can’t keep them!