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To be annoyed I’m not in partners will????

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YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 08:23

Backstory
we’ve been together almost 14 years. We’ve got children. Not married. His house we have lived in. He’s 60 I’m 50.

Am I being unreasonable that I’m annoyed now he’s doing his will his intention is to leave everything to the kids?
We have a decade age gap and I can’t help wondering what would happen to me of he died before me?
he sees it as his stuff so he leaves to who he wants to but I think it’s a huge red flag coupled with the fact obviously he’s not popped the question too

feels to me like he doesn’t really see us as an US?

what do you think?

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 03/11/2024 20:49

The only benefit to take from this really OP is that at least you know exactly where you stand now and that enables you to make a decision on where YOU want to go from here and what you want to/have to do to give yourself some financial security.

Standin · 03/11/2024 20:49

How awful @YourRealBiscuit

Did you ask him where you will live if he dies? How does he see this in reality?

Greenkindness · 03/11/2024 20:52

I would feel really sad to be honest, money etc aside I’d be feeling like he didn’t really love me as he seems very cynical. I think a home is not too much to ask for. I think I’d be stashing every penny I could now to get my own property to rent out. All the best OP

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 20:52

Standin · 03/11/2024 20:49

How awful @YourRealBiscuit

Did you ask him where you will live if he dies? How does he see this in reality?

Oh he’s still not going to die before me.
it’s just impossible to deal with that level of wanton ignorance coupled with his clear view of our future

I guess I’d kind of hoped things could take a turn now and I’d start putting money into the house, maybe he’d wind down at work and maybe I could pay bills for a while.

while all the time he had this up his sleeve

OP posts:
GranPepper · 03/11/2024 20:54

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 20:43

I don’t know what a solicitor could possibly tell me? I haven’t contributed anything of value apart from home making and bringing up kids. I think the writing is on the wall with that and I’ve learnt the most expensive lesson of my life.

You might be surprised how a Solicitor could help. You definitely HAVE contributed to your joint life. It's not all about money. You have taken time out to have and mother his children so he could keep working. Your children have legal rights too and it may be your childrens' rights that help you to secure a home (potentially paid for wholly or partially by him) for you and your children. I expect you are feeling pretty raw just now. Try and gather the info by photographing Will and financial documents of his. And really think about seeing a decent Solicitor. You have nothing to lose by doing so.

blueshoes · 03/11/2024 20:58

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 20:40

He said he didn’t realise I was in it, which I’m not sure if I believe, but either way he wants his estate to be left to our children and that’s just what he wants and it’s his stuff to decide upon.
lots of inference to me being “after”
something
lots of “so if I don’t leave you anything you want out” inferring that I’m a gold digger again and totally ignoring the fact of what it means about how he views our future

lots of “so if I don’t leave you anything you want out”

Why do you think he said that over and over again? Do you think that underlying all this he is afraid that you will walk?

AmberAlert86 · 03/11/2024 20:59

blueshoes · 03/11/2024 20:58

lots of “so if I don’t leave you anything you want out”

Why do you think he said that over and over again? Do you think that underlying all this he is afraid that you will walk?

That, or is he pushing her away?

HollyKnight · 03/11/2024 20:59

GranPepper · 03/11/2024 20:54

You might be surprised how a Solicitor could help. You definitely HAVE contributed to your joint life. It's not all about money. You have taken time out to have and mother his children so he could keep working. Your children have legal rights too and it may be your childrens' rights that help you to secure a home (potentially paid for wholly or partially by him) for you and your children. I expect you are feeling pretty raw just now. Try and gather the info by photographing Will and financial documents of his. And really think about seeing a decent Solicitor. You have nothing to lose by doing so.

She doesn't need to waste money on a solicitor. She needs to keep all the money she has. Especially now she has pissed him off. Quitting work, raising children...none of that matters. She isn't married. His only financial responsibility is towards his children. They have a secure home. It is her who doesn't.

AmberAlert86 · 03/11/2024 21:01

Don't jump to any action without thinking!
Take next steps after youve cooled off and considered all options

Mrsttcno1 · 03/11/2024 21:01

GranPepper · 03/11/2024 20:54

You might be surprised how a Solicitor could help. You definitely HAVE contributed to your joint life. It's not all about money. You have taken time out to have and mother his children so he could keep working. Your children have legal rights too and it may be your childrens' rights that help you to secure a home (potentially paid for wholly or partially by him) for you and your children. I expect you are feeling pretty raw just now. Try and gather the info by photographing Will and financial documents of his. And really think about seeing a decent Solicitor. You have nothing to lose by doing so.

Unfortunately not. All of those things, her contributions to family life, her career taking back seat etc are ONLY relevant if they had been married, they aren’t. The only thing he would owe her if he walked away tomorrow would be child maintenance.

GranPepper · 03/11/2024 21:09

HollyKnight · 03/11/2024 20:59

She doesn't need to waste money on a solicitor. She needs to keep all the money she has. Especially now she has pissed him off. Quitting work, raising children...none of that matters. She isn't married. His only financial responsibility is towards his children. They have a secure home. It is her who doesn't.

I don't agree. If it is his home, but he can't look after his children himself (which he hasn't done up til now), it may be probable if it comes to the nub, Court will rule children should stay with their mother at her partner's whole or partial expense for a home for them. I used to work in a bank and saw these situations playing out many times. Unfortunately, the males tended to seek good legal advice and trounce females who didn't, mainly because the women had less money and were fearful of spending on a good Solicitor. I am not a Solicitor but I have seen many times how people who get good Solicitors get a far better outcome than those who don't.

kittylion2 · 03/11/2024 21:11

AmberAlert86 · 03/11/2024 20:59

That, or is he pushing her away?

I think this - for whatever reason, this is his plan. Please see a solicitor OP.

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 21:11

blueshoes · 03/11/2024 20:58

lots of “so if I don’t leave you anything you want out”

Why do you think he said that over and over again? Do you think that underlying all this he is afraid that you will walk?

If he was scared of that, treating me like this wouldn’t help the situation at all would it?I don’t think it’s that, he’s just stressing the fact that he thinks I’m grabbing

OP posts:
GranPepper · 03/11/2024 21:12

kittylion2 · 03/11/2024 21:11

I think this - for whatever reason, this is his plan. Please see a solicitor OP.

I agree

blueshoes · 03/11/2024 21:12

AmberAlert86 · 03/11/2024 20:59

That, or is he pushing her away?

Yes, could be. But why would he push OP away? He has a nice set up if OP will accept his (non-)terms.

FriendlyChattyBee · 03/11/2024 21:13

I know that you’d be hurt and unsure about this, and I completely understand. Fourteen years is a long time to spend together, and not being named in the will may be taking away from your partnership. Perhaps it’s time for an open conversation about both your futures' security and what you expect from the relationship. But of course, there’s nothing unreasonable about wanting some reassurance.

MrsPeterHarris · 03/11/2024 21:14

It sounds to me like he's wanting you to leave Op, so that you'll be the bad guy & not him. Could there be someone else?

Thehouseofmarvels · 03/11/2024 21:15

@YouYourRealBiscuit I would be concerned that he is goading you to leave because he has someone else lined up, and is aware that throwing you out on the street with a few thousand in savings will make you look bad. Why can he not consider putting a clause in that will allow you to live in the house? It seems very clear he wants you out, sooner or later.

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/11/2024 21:16

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 19:14

I looked! The will is in our filing cabinet with a note on it with the original appt struck out!

Get a copy of it now while you can. And any papers showing his earnings, your financial contributions etc

blueshoes · 03/11/2024 21:16

YourRealBiscuit · 03/11/2024 21:11

If he was scared of that, treating me like this wouldn’t help the situation at all would it?I don’t think it’s that, he’s just stressing the fact that he thinks I’m grabbing

Do you know why he is so fixated on you being 'grabby'. Has he said things which indicate he thinks women in general are grabby?

He was 45 when you got together and presumably no kids of his own. Did he have a wife or girlfriend prior to meeting you? If so, why did they break up?

TheaBrandt · 03/11/2024 21:17

The solicitor will tell her she is exposed
here she could make a claim on his estate for reasonable provision but that’s an expensive and not guaranteed route. All she can do now is mirror his ruthless self centredness and hoard all the money she possibly can for own future. Probably this means splitting up and trying to buy her own property. Pushing forward at work. Stepping back from all house and childcare. He can do that now to enable her to earn. His turn.

Mrsttcno1 · 03/11/2024 21:17

GranPepper · 03/11/2024 21:09

I don't agree. If it is his home, but he can't look after his children himself (which he hasn't done up til now), it may be probable if it comes to the nub, Court will rule children should stay with their mother at her partner's whole or partial expense for a home for them. I used to work in a bank and saw these situations playing out many times. Unfortunately, the males tended to seek good legal advice and trounce females who didn't, mainly because the women had less money and were fearful of spending on a good Solicitor. I am not a Solicitor but I have seen many times how people who get good Solicitors get a far better outcome than those who don't.

Again, this is ONLY relevant if married. There is no court involvement here whatsoever, there’s no legal separation to be done at all. It’s very simple and clear cut. All he would ever owe OP is child maintenance.

GranPepper · 03/11/2024 21:18

TheaBrandt · 03/11/2024 21:17

The solicitor will tell her she is exposed
here she could make a claim on his estate for reasonable provision but that’s an expensive and not guaranteed route. All she can do now is mirror his ruthless self centredness and hoard all the money she possibly can for own future. Probably this means splitting up and trying to buy her own property. Pushing forward at work. Stepping back from all house and childcare. He can do that now to enable her to earn. His turn.

Are you a Solicitor?

Thehouseofmarvels · 03/11/2024 21:19

Cherchez la femme.

Pipsquiggle · 03/11/2024 21:20

Reframe his 'grabby' shit.

So you think it's ok to leave the mother of his DC destitute?
He thinks it's OK that you sacrificed so many things to bring up your DC?
List all the people you know who died young and all the men who died before their partner.
Ask him to talk to married men and ask their thoughts on leaving you destitute.
Ask him to ask his solicitor how legally this puts you in a vulnerable position
Ask him how many men would knowingly do this to their wives / partners? Who would knowingly leave them destitute if they died before them?
Name men he respects and ask if they would do this to their wives / partners...........

God he is such a cunt

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