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Husband’s insane ex destroying my mental health.

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GettingToTheCrux · 02/11/2024 22:49

Before meeting my husband, I didn’t have any drama in my life. I’m not a dramatic person and anytime I’ve had issues with people in the past, I’ve been able to deal with them quickly and effectively. I’ve never experienced anything like this before.

For the first few years of our relationship, my (then boyfriend’s) ex, was quietly annoying in the background, but didn’t cause any major issues. He mentioned on several occasions that she had mental health issues and this had been the cause of their relationship deteriorating, but I never saw any of that and as I said, was fine for a few years. We both assumed she had calmed down. They share a child, and my husband and I also have a child.

In the last two years, his ex has ramped up her behaviour to the extent it is effecting my own mental health. I feel anxious a lot, angry, upset, and is impacting our relationship. We argue a lot, we never used to. I can’t concentrate on my job well, or our child, I’m irritable.

Some of the things she has done: sending abusive text messages and emails, not only to my husband but to their child who then ends up extremely distressed. She sends highly
manipulative texts to my stepchild, often abusing or being negative about my husband. She has also sent in the past, highly inappropriate messages, including suicidal and sexual messages, these ones aren’t to my stepchild but to my husband. She refuses to cooperate in any reasonable manner, oftentimes blocking my husband or ignoring his messages so it’s impossible to contact her regarding child arrangements or anything else. In the past she has spread rumours about us to shared acquaintances and has told her child outright lies about us. The most recent thing? Opening up a fraudulent case with the child maintenance service so we are liable for huge payments, and the child maintenance service won’t accept that’s she lying without a child arrangement order from court, which will take months if not years to obtain. Not only do we now have the stress of her erratic behaviour which can be set off at any moment, but also now have the financial stress of my husband - and by extension me - having to find hundreds of pounds a month to pay her, which she isn’t entitled to and we can’t afford whilst also supporting their shared child and ours. It feels constant. As soon as one thing is dealt with, she’s doing something else.

I’ve had enough and want to report her to the police, social services, action fraud etc. I’m sick of her and her behaviour, it’s making me unwell and having a negative impact on our whole household. My husband is in constant bad moods and I have told him all of this but he won’t hear any mention of reporting her to the police or any other service as he thinks it will negatively impact their child and their child will hate us. It’s probably true that his child will ‘hate us’ for a time, but I do think one day they would understand as we have all of the evidence of her behaviour. It’s also not fair on me and our child to have to just put up with this. I’m at the point of wanting to leave as I don’t feel I can take this anymore.

OP posts:
Gonk123 · 03/11/2024 15:37

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:35

The maintenance is only the latest issue. Once that’s sorted it will be back to harassment, texts, emails all manner of things. I’m just so fed up, she’s impacting my mental health and wrecking my marriage.

Well tell
himnot to talk to you about any of it then, you don’t need to fall out then…

Woodstocks · 03/11/2024 15:39

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 15:01

I think the husband is rightly not taking the actions OP is pushing for because he knows it won’t achieve much and he’s worried it might damage his relationship with his child. And yes it’s potentially damaging his relationship with OP and their child but OP knew what she was getting herself into when she married someone who was already a father. Not saying nothing should be done - block the woman, he can stop telling OP about her crazy messages, escalate the CMP issue, but calling the police and social services is extreme.

What’s wrong with you?! Of course he needs to take steps to defend himself from this batshit crazy woman!

And what is that about the OP “knowing what she is getting herself into” like it’s her fault that the ex is a nutter and abusive to everyone she should hold dear? People are entitled to a life, no way should OP live like a Slave to the ex, going out to work only to throw the money at someone else, because she happened to be married to the guy first?!

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 16:01

Woodstocks · 03/11/2024 15:39

What’s wrong with you?! Of course he needs to take steps to defend himself from this batshit crazy woman!

And what is that about the OP “knowing what she is getting herself into” like it’s her fault that the ex is a nutter and abusive to everyone she should hold dear? People are entitled to a life, no way should OP live like a Slave to the ex, going out to work only to throw the money at someone else, because she happened to be married to the guy first?!

My God please stop being a bloody drama queen. Living like a slave 🤣 Did I say she should put up with it? No. I said calling the police and social services is extreme and I’ll add to that now that it’s only going to create more DRAMA.

KhakiShaker · 03/11/2024 16:05

35Emma · 03/11/2024 14:48

We had some similar issues with my partners ex when she first heard he had a new partner (me!). I won’t go into detail but my partner reported her to the police eventually for harassment. They took him seriously and popped round to see her for an informal chat. The harassment stopped instantly. It has been the most powerful thing he has done to curb her behaviour.

We then went on to get a child arrangements order to secure contact. It was a long road but we could not continue the way things were. The ex has never once mentioned the police visit to us nor their child. The police implied that she was absolutely mortified by their visit. I would highly recommend it. If you don’t get taken seriously by the police, play devils advocate and ask whether they would respond differently if it was a man doing this to a woman. That soon got things moving.

This.

@GettingToTheCrux My partner has a similar batshit ex who is/was abusive. He reported her for harassment, the police took it seriously and reviewed all evidence. They offered to go and speak to her but couldn’t charge her at the time as the threshold hadn’t been met. My partner didn’t think this would work but in hindsight we should’ve done it.

He now has a CAO and all comms are through her mum. DP has offered to use the wizard parenting app too. But he’s not dealing with her abuse anymore and neither am I. Neither of us will unblock her. I assume you have blocked her even if your DH hasn’t?

CMS. They are idiots. Why is your DH not putting in his own claim for child benefit? Surely he can make his own claim for maintenance too?

Cantalever · 03/11/2024 16:42

GettingToTheCrux · 02/11/2024 23:40

@Viewfrommyhouse He will ‘challenge’ her, but it’s always softly softly in my opinion. For example, she will send a torrent of abuse, he will just won’t reply and won’t take it further. Then she does it again a few months later and he does the same again. I suspect it’s because this is how he behaved when they were together. The final straw is this child maintenance case. It’s fraud and theft, I want to report to the police and action fraud but he’s just going through the motions with child maintenance which will take months, in the meantime agreeing to do what they say which is to pay hundreds a month. I’m sick of it and just want some real action against this woman who is ruining our lives.

What would happen if you don't pay, but simultaneously report it as fraud?

TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 18:08

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 16:01

My God please stop being a bloody drama queen. Living like a slave 🤣 Did I say she should put up with it? No. I said calling the police and social services is extreme and I’ll add to that now that it’s only going to create more DRAMA.

Calling the police and social services is also likely to achieve precisely nothing 🤷🏼‍♀️

TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 18:09

Cantalever · 03/11/2024 16:42

What would happen if you don't pay, but simultaneously report it as fraud?

Report it to who?
you can't report a child maintenance claim to the police as fraud. The CMS need to determine who has to pay what, that's their remit, not the police.

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 18:35

TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 18:08

Calling the police and social services is also likely to achieve precisely nothing 🤷🏼‍♀️

Exactly.

TiredEyesSoreHeart · 04/11/2024 05:49

OP your husband is not having your back, he is seeing you completely stressed, and choosing not to do anything about it. You don't deserve this. Your husband may be thinking about himself and the kids. But, he's not thinking about you. You're his wife and he needs to protect you too. I would give him an ultimatum. Say he needs to go to the police, or you want out and want a divorce. Tell him then he'll have two 'baby mummas' who he will have to arrange custody with; does he want that? Tell him that. He chooses to have your back, or you'll walk.

Seashellssanctuary · 04/11/2024 06:25

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:58

Yes. You’re correct. I’m telling my husband to do these things and he’s refusing or doing them in his ‘own time’…

Post after post you have criticised the CMS.

They have told you (your husband) what is required and you say he is refusing. You can't help someone who won't help themselves.

Juststopamoment · 04/11/2024 17:53

If you have their son for more weeks than her why are you having to pay her 00s of pounds? Surely she should be paying you?

Weald56 · 04/11/2024 18:07

Give your husband an ultimatum to protect you and your child from his ex (e.g. by reporting her to the police or going to a solicitor to see about getting an injunction etc), or move out as he's a waste of space.

Sleepytiredyawn · 04/11/2024 18:19

GettingToTheCrux · 02/11/2024 23:40

@Ladyzfactor We have him for 3 weeks, she has him for one, then she also sees him every other weekend.

So why isn’t she the one paying Child maintenance?

Gettingolderandgrumpier60 · 04/11/2024 18:45

Sadly, I think that for the sake of your mental health, and that of your child, you need to leave DH. This looks like this is going to be only way he will be ‘shaken’ into doing something to stop this awful woman. If you have the stepchild 3 weeks out of 4 (75% of his care) shouldn’t she be paying you maintenance? Your husband needs to be given a reality check. Wouldn’t be giving grasping w*tch any of my money.

toxic44 · 04/11/2024 19:04

DH 's ex is breaking your marriage, which probably her aim. It's almost impossible to reason with someone who has MH issues. Log every contact and consult a lawyer. Good luck.

BlueFlowers5 · 04/11/2024 19:24

A lot of people go through this during pre divorce, divorce and post divorce.

It just has to be gone through.
A suggestion might be get a PAYG phone and only contact her through that.
Only switch it on to receive messages at a time that you and your husband decide.

Give your StepD the PAYG phone to contact her DM at a time she asks and you decide.

Block her on all your other phones.

HappyMe6 · 04/11/2024 19:25

Totally agree with MSLRT

Bernardo1 · 04/11/2024 20:20

If your husband will not deal with this appropriately, take professional legal advice and act on it.

If not resolved satisfactorily, for your own health and well being, consider leaving him.

Londongirlx · 04/11/2024 21:31

Make a counter claim for child benefit, stating you're the primary carer. Payments will be put on hold until it's investigated

Owl55 · 04/11/2024 22:23

My daughters ex just refused to pay any maintenance for his children , nothing has happened to make him pay!!! Just refuse to pay it !
keep a written diary and record all her abuse particulary to their child . Contact social services for advice or contact the police as she is harassing you , they will visit her and that may be enough to get her to stop .
I would be very concerned for your stepchild’s mental health , this woman is abusive and dangerous .

rosyAndMoo · 04/11/2024 23:33

Agree with the posts saying you need legal advice.
As someone with mental health problems myself, I’m wondering if she has come of her medication, since you were amicable with her for a period of time and it now seems like she is acting erratic again. I think you need to speak to your husbands child as they are 13 and ask them when they want to happen and then support their wishes going forwards. If the text messages to your child together are consistent in a negative nature and persistent you may have grounds to obtain a non-molestation order to at least protect your child.

campertess · 05/11/2024 18:58

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:21

The problem is, my husband won’t do these tough things and whenever I suggest them he gets angry with me and we end up arguing.

He will just need to get angry because you will end up having a breakdown, and where will he be then? I think it's time for some home truths even if it hurts his feelings, he obviously isn't thinking about you or your son. He's being a coward and letting a rocket ruin your lives. His son must feel the tension and hear you arguing. It's time to act. Tell him the bottom line. You are no longer paying his ex and you are going to end up leaving because you have reached the end of the line. It must be impacting your lives to the point that money is tight, and he has no right to expect you and your child as well as his son to do without because he doesn't have the guts to fight back.

DidIMissSomething · 06/11/2024 09:55

Hi OP,
I’m so sorry you’re experiencing this - it sounds just awful.
Domestic abuse has been mentioned and this behaviour absolutely does fall into the definition. Instead of police reports etc which are tough to do unsupported I’d suggest your husband seeks advice from a domestic abuse specialist charity. His son is also being subjected to emotional abuse - your husband needs to put the long term needs of his son first and get help.
Services exist that specialise in male support e.g. https://mensadviceline.org.uk/
I hope you manage to find a solution.

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Caroparo52 · 06/11/2024 10:06

You have a weak husband who is afraid to stand up to his ex. He's also prepared to let his wife and dc be abused by his ex. You have the choice to leae to protect yourself and dc. That's what I would do.

Hello0102 · 07/11/2024 16:59

@GettingToTheCrux They don’t by default just accept what the mother says. When they get a claim they should be contacting to verify. It’s also a finable offence for her to put in a fraudulent claim, so I would suggest making sure you gather as much evidence of this, even if it’s time stamped photos etc to show your step child’s whereabouts and keep a diary , or text evidence to confirm what the care arrangements are etc. What I would suggest is you simply go on the CMS site and raise a claim yourself with the complete and honest information. (You will then see what I mean about warning about putting in a false claim) .Who is down as the resident parent? Who is in receipt of child benefit? Whilst it doesn’t help with financial discussions, it will only be a couple of years where you will find you will just be going directly through your stepchild about anything else as they gain more independence anyway

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