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Husband’s insane ex destroying my mental health.

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GettingToTheCrux · 02/11/2024 22:49

Before meeting my husband, I didn’t have any drama in my life. I’m not a dramatic person and anytime I’ve had issues with people in the past, I’ve been able to deal with them quickly and effectively. I’ve never experienced anything like this before.

For the first few years of our relationship, my (then boyfriend’s) ex, was quietly annoying in the background, but didn’t cause any major issues. He mentioned on several occasions that she had mental health issues and this had been the cause of their relationship deteriorating, but I never saw any of that and as I said, was fine for a few years. We both assumed she had calmed down. They share a child, and my husband and I also have a child.

In the last two years, his ex has ramped up her behaviour to the extent it is effecting my own mental health. I feel anxious a lot, angry, upset, and is impacting our relationship. We argue a lot, we never used to. I can’t concentrate on my job well, or our child, I’m irritable.

Some of the things she has done: sending abusive text messages and emails, not only to my husband but to their child who then ends up extremely distressed. She sends highly
manipulative texts to my stepchild, often abusing or being negative about my husband. She has also sent in the past, highly inappropriate messages, including suicidal and sexual messages, these ones aren’t to my stepchild but to my husband. She refuses to cooperate in any reasonable manner, oftentimes blocking my husband or ignoring his messages so it’s impossible to contact her regarding child arrangements or anything else. In the past she has spread rumours about us to shared acquaintances and has told her child outright lies about us. The most recent thing? Opening up a fraudulent case with the child maintenance service so we are liable for huge payments, and the child maintenance service won’t accept that’s she lying without a child arrangement order from court, which will take months if not years to obtain. Not only do we now have the stress of her erratic behaviour which can be set off at any moment, but also now have the financial stress of my husband - and by extension me - having to find hundreds of pounds a month to pay her, which she isn’t entitled to and we can’t afford whilst also supporting their shared child and ours. It feels constant. As soon as one thing is dealt with, she’s doing something else.

I’ve had enough and want to report her to the police, social services, action fraud etc. I’m sick of her and her behaviour, it’s making me unwell and having a negative impact on our whole household. My husband is in constant bad moods and I have told him all of this but he won’t hear any mention of reporting her to the police or any other service as he thinks it will negatively impact their child and their child will hate us. It’s probably true that his child will ‘hate us’ for a time, but I do think one day they would understand as we have all of the evidence of her behaviour. It’s also not fair on me and our child to have to just put up with this. I’m at the point of wanting to leave as I don’t feel I can take this anymore.

OP posts:
KnottedTwine · 03/11/2024 09:45

What would happen if you just stop paying the amount she has asked for, pending the court hearing? (I have not been in this situation so don't know the legal ins and outs).

Because if you are right and she is not entitled to whatever she has asked for, then when it goes to court and it is found she has had X amount she shouldn't have had, is she really going to pay it back? Or is your DH paying it to keep the peace and because he's scared of what she'll do otherwise?

TheWorthyNewt · 03/11/2024 09:47

Leave and take your child with you. If she's that spiteful she could call social services on you. Remove yourself and child from the situation completely.

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:47

OptimismvsRealism · 03/11/2024 09:38

It just doesn't really make sense as you tell it. He might be hiding some of the details.

What doesn’t make sense?

OP posts:
GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:49

TheWorthyNewt · 03/11/2024 09:47

Leave and take your child with you. If she's that spiteful she could call social services on you. Remove yourself and child from the situation completely.

I have had this thought and it scares me.

OP posts:
TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 09:51

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:49

I have had this thought and it scares me.

Why are you scared? Social services are used to malicious calls. What do you think they could do to you?

jeaux90 · 03/11/2024 09:51

OP. A CAO does not take that long. I went to court for this, it was done within 4 months.

Get legal advice and get it done.

If your DH won't do this then your home is already broken and I'd be protecting myself and my DC from this insane situation by leaving.

TheWorthyNewt · 03/11/2024 09:51

Tell him straight that you're thinking of leaving as you've had enough. Either he reports her or you're gone.

Greentreesandbushes · 03/11/2024 09:51

You can’t reason with crazy. Apply for a court order, tell CMS and the ex that you have done this.

the police won’t give a shit, stop fixating on that. I know that you want some “punishment” to be dealt but most people dealing with her are likely to be treading on eggshells.

Dont get involved in any communication, if your DH starts talking about an abusive message/email ask him to stop, unless he will call her out on it you don’t want to hear about it. How much contact does there need to be? Surely just timing of collection and drop off?

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 09:55

mumda · 03/11/2024 00:11

It's forever.

It’s not forever. When the child is an adult there will be no need for contact whatsoever.

SnakesAndArrows · 03/11/2024 09:57

Post after post telling the OP to go to court, go to her MP, make a counter claim, claim CB. She can’t do any of these things - that’s the problem. Her DH has to take the lead, and he won’t.

The OP has some entirely separate decisions to make about her future; that’s what this thread is about.

Halfemptyhalfling · 03/11/2024 09:58

You and ex likely to be in . perimenopause making things more emotional. Why is 13 year old living mostly with dad? Does ex think this is a mistake? Ex probably lonely without child. Also child growing up and maybe pulling away from.her if she is difficult

GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 09:58

SnakesAndArrows · 03/11/2024 09:57

Post after post telling the OP to go to court, go to her MP, make a counter claim, claim CB. She can’t do any of these things - that’s the problem. Her DH has to take the lead, and he won’t.

The OP has some entirely separate decisions to make about her future; that’s what this thread is about.

Yes. You’re correct. I’m telling my husband to do these things and he’s refusing or doing them in his ‘own time’…

OP posts:
GettingToTheCrux · 03/11/2024 10:03

I am scared because we are dealing with someone who is, in the words of another poster, batshit. I’ve no idea what she will do next, hence my anxiety. What’s stopping her, even if I leave, from redirecting her harassment to me and my child? My husband doing very little isn’t protecting us.

OP posts:
Moanycowbag · 03/11/2024 10:03

The ex wife isn't ruining your life/marriage your husband is, with his inability to sort this mess out.

Clarabell77 · 03/11/2024 10:05

Greentreesandbushes · 03/11/2024 09:51

You can’t reason with crazy. Apply for a court order, tell CMS and the ex that you have done this.

the police won’t give a shit, stop fixating on that. I know that you want some “punishment” to be dealt but most people dealing with her are likely to be treading on eggshells.

Dont get involved in any communication, if your DH starts talking about an abusive message/email ask him to stop, unless he will call her out on it you don’t want to hear about it. How much contact does there need to be? Surely just timing of collection and drop off?

I agree with this. I think your husband is right to ignore her abusive messages etc. The money situation will come right in the end, deal with it through the agency. I think you need to stop wanting to get back at her and talk to your husband about what you can do to make life better for you both. Part of him being in a mood is probably because you’re (rightly) making it clear how it’s impacting you but your suggestions of how to deal with it aren’t sitting right with him because he wants to protect his child too, and rightly so. Regardless of how much of a nutter she is, she is his child’s mother..

She shouldn’t have any way of making contact with your child or you though so I’d be making sure that can’t happen.

I would also say that in even 3 years his child will be a young adult and there will be very little need to be in contact with her. A couple of years after that it will pretty much be zero as the child will be an adult.

moose62 · 03/11/2024 10:06

I would give your DH an ultimatum...either he sorts this out once and for all, or you will leave. Give him a timeline and mean it. Things will only get worse as the ex assumes she can do anything she wants. If he still won't I would leave but make sure your DSS knows this is not his fault but that of his mother and his father refusing to deal with it. That might seem cruel but the ex will no doubt will say all manner of things once you have gone.

Thingamebobwotsit · 03/11/2024 10:08

@GettingToTheCrux this sounds a horrendous situation and I am so sorry for you.

You will get lots of advice here to leave, threaten to leave etc, but right now you are operating from a place of "ignorance" and you first need to understand and map out all the facts.

(1) has this woman had a formal diagnosis of mental health issues and does she have an MH team around her? If so, then because thungs are escalating my first port of call would be to alert the social care MH team and/or GP of your concerns around more erratic behavior etc. This needs to be positioned from a place of concerns about her welfare. Not from a place of "payback" as this could be used against you at a later date. However for someone with the history you describe I would seriously question whether she is currently well enough to have you step child for part of the time.

(2) you need to get legal advice - either as a couple or you as an individual. As this is impacting you and your child, your DH either comes along for the ride with you or you - as an independent adult - seek to understand your own legal position.

(3) I don't know whether the situation is sufficiently bad enough that your step child would be considered a safeguarding risk, when with their mother, but you can discuss this anonymously and I would consider checking this out.

(4) you need to sort the CMS thing ASAP. If your DH feels they want to still contribute more that is a separate issue. And this can be agreed via your relevant solicitors. What should not be happening is a fraudulent claim, if nothing else the CMS/your DH may want to claim it back at some point and then your step child actually misses out. Much better to have a formal legal agreement which puts money aside, or supports the ex (proportionately) with a bit extra for the time your step child is with them as needed.

Finally for your DH to have the bulk of the contact there is a strong chance that someone along the line felt the ex was not the best place for the child. You both sound like you are trying to make the most of an awful situation but for me the issue is more about the safety (physical and psychological) of your step child and the welfare of their mother right now. The legal wheels need to be set in motion, but you need to act now on the MH issues rather than wait for a major crisis.

And one last thing... if the ex has repeatedly made threats of suicide to your DH you need to encourage him to seek out someone to speak to. It is awful to feel so totally responsible for another person's MH and he may be deeply frightened of making the wrong decision with tragic consequences. I really feel for him, but he needs to put some sensible space between his emotional response and the practicalities of the situation.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

HollyKnight · 03/11/2024 10:23

CB goes to the parent the child lives with. If your husband has allowed his ex to claim the CB, despite her having the child less, then that is proof to the CMS that she is the primary parent.

WorldKeepsSpinningRound · 03/11/2024 10:38

@GettingToTheCrux you have two choices:

  1. continue as is (which will be miserable)
  2. calmly sit your husband down and lay it all out - this situation can’t be allowed to continue. Either he steps up to address all this nonsense with the relevant authorities or you and your child will leave him for the sake of your own sanity.

If he can’t step up and address this he is not worth being with. I had a similar situation with my husband’s ex and he went out of his way to protect me and put an end to it. He had my back and I love him for it.

AffableApple · 03/11/2024 10:41

I don't understand why you're paying the money if you don't have it? Is your husband hiding income? I've sorry if I've misunderstood, I've no experience of this. Why isn't your husband just laughing in her face and showing the authorities there's no such money available? Apologies for my ignorance.

MilesOfCarpetTiles · 03/11/2024 10:46

Absolutely @Thingamebobwotsit the priority should be the wellbeing of the stepchild which sounds like it's not being prioritised.

TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 10:51

AffableApple · 03/11/2024 10:41

I don't understand why you're paying the money if you don't have it? Is your husband hiding income? I've sorry if I've misunderstood, I've no experience of this. Why isn't your husband just laughing in her face and showing the authorities there's no such money available? Apologies for my ignorance.

If the parent who is due to pay maintenance doesn't pay it, the CMS can attach an order to their earnings so it gets deducted at source. You can't just ignore it.

FfsBrian · 03/11/2024 10:54

SnakesAndArrows · 03/11/2024 09:57

Post after post telling the OP to go to court, go to her MP, make a counter claim, claim CB. She can’t do any of these things - that’s the problem. Her DH has to take the lead, and he won’t.

The OP has some entirely separate decisions to make about her future; that’s what this thread is about.

This. It’s her DH inaction that’s causing the issues.

Hr is right not to respond to her as it will only add fuel to the fire. And he is right that he shouldn’t involve the child - as it’s not his fault and it’s damaging to kids to have to deal with adult issues. Plus it could also lead to an accusation of parental alienation.

BUT there is a lot that her DH isn’t doing and that’s the issue.

OP, I’d be sitting down with your DH and tell him that if he doesn’t start to take control of the situation and protect his family then you’re going to leave.

AffableApple · 03/11/2024 10:59

TheSilkWorm · 03/11/2024 10:51

If the parent who is due to pay maintenance doesn't pay it, the CMS can attach an order to their earnings so it gets deducted at source. You can't just ignore it.

She's not the parent though? Why is she allowing her money to be used from the joint account? If CMS can take it from his account, then he's earning it, so fine. (Of course there's the issue that she's apparently not the RP and not entitled, but that's another problem.) How is money that allegedly doesn't exist being demanded?

Purplewarrior · 03/11/2024 11:01

Viewfrommyhouse · 02/11/2024 23:31

Leave. If he can't be arsed to do anything to challenge her, that's his problem. I wouldn't hang around to make it mine too.

I agree with this. You have to prioritise yourself and your DC.