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Need a hand hold part 2

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Imbluedalale · 02/11/2024 21:41

Hi it’s Laura ,
Just wanted to add a new thread as I think my other thread is getting full xx

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BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 03:02

Your daughter will come to think of "your house" as our house soon. Once she gets to see it and live in it. At the moment it's an abstract concept so that's why she thinks of it as your place. It will also make it much easier for you to know how things are going when they are at your ex's. You've said he's a good Dad and they are happy there so most likely it will stay the same and the kids will get the best of both parents. Once they see both of you are happier apart and they are loved and cared for, they will adapt to the new idea of two homes.

BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 03:11

Imbluedalale · 15/11/2024 03:02

Ok Thanku for letting me know, I will try and keep an eye on it . Hopefully once she sees her bedroom and new bed she will want to stay more with me xx

I'm quite excited for you actually. You have a lovely new place and you get to choose what to put in it. I think that your kids will enjoy helping you do it too. There's lots of enjoyment in starting afresh and making it the way you like it, just need to pace it so you don't run out of money. It's worth asking around because there's different schemes where you can get things cheaper or even free. In our area there's a Facebook page where people put things that still have plenty of life in them and they want it to go to someone who wants it, rather than landfill. There's also bargains to be found at charity shops. I understand that getting out is very difficult for you at the moment. I'm severely disabled and in a wheelchair myself. So that adds complications, but some charities do deliver in the local area.

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 07:23

BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 00:29

Hi, I'm rather late to your story Laura and I haven't read everything from your two threads but can I say just the first thing that hits me is WOW. You have made such massive progress in quite a short space of time. You should be so so incredibly proud of yourself for turning it around and putting your life back together. You are sounding happy, excited for the future, determined, resourceful and taken on challenges you'd never have been able to before.

I won't talk much about "he who shall not be named" because he's not worth it. Just to remind you that when you have the bad days and the insidious voice sneaks in like the skunk fart that it is, remember he spent years carefully crafting the weak victim he could control and convince they deserved whatever abuse he felt like. It's going to take time for you to get to a place where you truly understand that it's not you anymore. You are already taking the first steps into Laura the survivor, who knows who she is and what she's worth. You will love yourself and see what we, a bunch of random MNers can see, without having met you. A proud, strong woman who fights for her kids like the fierce warrior she has to be.

I'm so happy to hear that you are getting support from your parents and they have seen for themselves that your ex can't keep his halo in place. Abusers thrive in darkness and secrecy, that's why they isolate their victims from any form of support. Being able to be open and honest about what happened will allow your Mum and Dad to start to understand a little bit, but also be prepared for the things that they don't quite get. Until you are there or close to someone who has a similar experience, it can be quite confusing for them. Lots of people think, it can't happen to me. It's only people who are weak or have mental health problems who get abused. They can't understand why someone can still love someone who is cruel and tortures them. All of that is absolutely not true of course but it needs to be seen to be understood and they haven't seen it.

It's wonderful to see that you are starting to rebuild your relationship with your kids too. They are always going to love you and you are showing them all just how much you love them by being so resilient. I'm sure they are going to eventually see your ex for what he is and in some ways with them being older, he's going to have less and less say over them as they will be old enough to decide for themselves. At the moment however, they are reliant on him so will be walking the eggshell dance. Try to forgive them when you don't get the response from them you'd like, it's a difficult thing for them to negotiate. Especially with Mr Skunk wafting his poisonous stink around the place.

You will get through this and so will they. You will get to the beautiful smelling house, full of laughter and hugs, with a glittery tree full of spoon ornaments. You will gain friendship and support from many people and be able to like what you see in the mirror.

Nobody will ever again be able to make you think that you deserve it and you will be able to tell the next person who is taking the first step to get out, that yes it's possible. Not just possible but it's imperative and the future is so much better than they can conceive at the moment.

Sending so much love to you and your kids. Keep on being awesome xxx

This is such a great post 💕💕. I’m so so sorry about your best friend, that’s so awful. But do glad the next friend managed to flee eventually.

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 07:44

Morning everyone 👋

Massive well done on getting the internet sorted Laura, that sounds a good deal and so handy to have 4 months no payments and Disney plus!

I do think your dc will come round and realise your exs true nature. I hope it’s soon but they may be in a bit of a fog of trying to please him. Once they experience your new house, it’ll feel like home because you’re there💕💕.

im so horrified by him taking your favourite things away from you as some kind of bizarre sport. It’s just evil and so pointless. I hope you get plenty of raspberry tiptree jam in your new place. And just gradually figure out all the things you like and get them all back with a load of new ones on top. Also horrified and so sad about your real dad’s behaviour. I’m so sorry for all youve been through.

but just wanted to say 3 MORE SLEEPS (that’s right isn’t it?!) xx

I have a work from home day then DPs for the weekend with DD. I think we are going to an afternoon tea for somewhere he works on Saturday so that should be a free afternoon out at least 😁.

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 07:55

Hello to all you lovely Spoonies! Friday is finally here.
@BeNavyCrab Welcome to the thread - you speak wise words of caution.
@Imbluedalale I was thinking about you walking past Subway on my way to the office this morning. It will always remind me of you now I bet.
As for @RaspberryBeretxx doesn't everyone sing this to themselves a la Prince every time her name pops up....or is that just me.....
Roll on noon when the working week is done! Have a great Friday 😁

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 07:58

Morning. Welcome to the club @BeNavyCrab

How are you feeling, @spoonfulofmustard? Hope the cold is better today.

Nothing much on for me today, so I will potter.

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 07:59

I’m gutted I couldn’t find the perfume in M&S.

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 08:01

@Apolloneuro you really need to stop as I've got itchy feet to get round to M&S later to look for this perfume!! I never change my scent and haven't in over 20 years but you guys are seriously persuasive 😂

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/11/2024 08:01

Sorry I’ve been missing for a bit spoonies! Just read all the updates what a lovely group you are.
@Imbluedalale the Disney channel is ace.

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 08:09

@PeggyMitchellsCameo Great to see you back, I was thinking about you yesterday as I thought you'd been on the missing for a bit! 😊

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/11/2024 08:11

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 08:09

@PeggyMitchellsCameo Great to see you back, I was thinking about you yesterday as I thought you'd been on the missing for a bit! 😊

Morning @nornironlady and thanks!

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 09:38

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 08:01

@Apolloneuro you really need to stop as I've got itchy feet to get round to M&S later to look for this perfume!! I never change my scent and haven't in over 20 years but you guys are seriously persuasive 😂

Go for it! I can’t be the only person making impulse buys in M&S this week. 😃

spoonfulofmustard · 15/11/2024 09:51

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 09:38

Go for it! I can’t be the only person making impulse buys in M&S this week. 😃

i am very grateful right now my local m&s is food only!

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 10:04

I’ve checked the M&S app and black tulip is out of stock everywhere. I think all the lurking spoonies have been out buying it 😂

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 10:04

Thank you @nornironlady and @Imbluedalale on my MN username! I love that song and also like raspberries and berets 😄 although raspberries are quite expensive and DD just tends to eat the whole thing in one go.

Hi @PeggyMitchellsCameo , I was also wondering if you're OK (hope you are!). Nice to "see" you again.

@Meanwhile33 I'm jealous that you tried the perfume! I think I need to find out where the nearest big M&S to DPs house is 😆. Glad it was lovely and lasted well. That's a lovely sentiment about thinking of women supporting women and of Laura safe in her new home, I love that.

@spoonfulofmustard hope you're feeling a bit better. Your weekend of hunkering down sounds really lovely. I love a bad Christmas film! My DS had a sleepover on halloween and I asked him what they wanted (slightly anxious that it might have been too scary) and they had watched The Christmas Chronicles 😂.

I had a fat face voucher for ages and had a quick look online yesterday and managed to buy 3 lovely things I'd seen in the shop now in the sale so was super happy with that.

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 10:05

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 10:04

I’ve checked the M&S app and black tulip is out of stock everywhere. I think all the lurking spoonies have been out buying it 😂

😱😱😂😂. that's so funny. I bet it's this thread. M&S will be baffled (unless they have people combing the internet to see what we're all saying about them).

BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 10:41

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 07:23

This is such a great post 💕💕. I’m so so sorry about your best friend, that’s so awful. But do glad the next friend managed to flee eventually.

Thanks for saying that. I miss her so much and it breaks my heart to think about what she must have gone through. How her poor Mum survived I don't know. The guy was really disturbed and had a very long history but nobody knew that.

Thanks for the welcome fellow Spoonies. Can I just say how heartwarming it is to see a MN thread that's full of love, hope and solidarity. I've seen a few where there's been a few awful posts that jump on someone who needs help and victim blames. Thank goodness that Laura has some kind genuine people who are cheering her on.

I was really saddened by hearing about her real father. Addiction is such a horrible thing and it hurts everyone around it. As a child your parents are your world and you want their approval and affection. Its especially hard to have a glimpse of it, only to see it snatched away. It's human nature to think that maybe if I was just a bit better, then it wouldn't have happened etc. My cousin had parents who were addicted to drugs and they had very few times where it showed that they thought about him or did something nice. He would live for those moments but suffered the majority of the rest. It's really traumatic and shattered his belief in himself.

It's impressive that Laura has been able to stop it from ruining her ability to be a loving parent to her children. Sadly it often does reoccur in the next generation. My cousin struggled with it. He equated giving money as love, because that was the only thing he saw from his parents. It took him a fair while to break the cycle and learn to be present for his kids.

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 11:50

That’s a good point @BeNavyCrab Laura has been able to break the cycle.

Munchyseeds2 · 15/11/2024 12:07

@Imbluedalale How are you doing today?
Those new sleeping tablets sounded a bit intense....did they work at all??

Happy Fri everyone, i hope you are all well (or at least feeling better @Apolloneuro @spoonfulofmustard

I'm having a lazy day, just put a squash in the oven to make soup later
Wonder if any of us will get snow next week?? Xx

Apolloneuro · 15/11/2024 12:08

I won’t, down in the south. Haven’t had since 2018.

Munchyseeds2 · 15/11/2024 12:12

I'm South East and we don't usually get it thankfully
Last time was The Beast From The East

AdmittowearingCrocs · 15/11/2024 12:16

Imbluedalale · 15/11/2024 00:19

Hi @AdmittowearingCrocs . How’s your day going? Or I should say evening now.
Ive managed to get internet sorted and you get the Disney channel free with it . The 4 months is free and then after it goes to £24. They can’t come until next Friday but that will be ok won’t have to wait too long . I’m baffling myself this afternoon and nearly went to reception and asked , how’s stompy Pete got the exact same as last week?
Oh when you it like that I makes more excited xx

Well done for sorting out internet and to get Disney for four months is fab. Once you get a sofa you can snuggle up on it with your son and watch a film, all cozy in your own home with no one telling you what to do.
Yes it’s weird that stompy Pete managed to get the same room above you. Hope he didn’t keep you awake all night. 💐

Imbluedalale · 15/11/2024 15:50

BeNavyCrab · 15/11/2024 03:11

I'm quite excited for you actually. You have a lovely new place and you get to choose what to put in it. I think that your kids will enjoy helping you do it too. There's lots of enjoyment in starting afresh and making it the way you like it, just need to pace it so you don't run out of money. It's worth asking around because there's different schemes where you can get things cheaper or even free. In our area there's a Facebook page where people put things that still have plenty of life in them and they want it to go to someone who wants it, rather than landfill. There's also bargains to be found at charity shops. I understand that getting out is very difficult for you at the moment. I'm severely disabled and in a wheelchair myself. So that adds complications, but some charities do deliver in the local area.

Hi @BeNavyCrab , How are you today?
Thank you very much for joining my thread.
I really can’t believe time moving in date is so near now, I have to pinch myself that’s it’s real. This will be my last weekend in the hotel . No more fast food, no more stompy Pete , no more knicker washing in sink but most of all I’m closer than I have ever been to getting my children back.
I will definitely have to pace it and it will probably take me about a year or so to get everything I need but that’s ok and it will make whatever I get more worthwhile because I will know it’s mine and that I’ve bought it .
I don’t have Facebook but I’ve been looking on gumtree and next week I’m going to some charity shops that do furniture and see what I can find xx

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Imbluedalale · 15/11/2024 16:06

RaspberryBeretxx · 15/11/2024 07:44

Morning everyone 👋

Massive well done on getting the internet sorted Laura, that sounds a good deal and so handy to have 4 months no payments and Disney plus!

I do think your dc will come round and realise your exs true nature. I hope it’s soon but they may be in a bit of a fog of trying to please him. Once they experience your new house, it’ll feel like home because you’re there💕💕.

im so horrified by him taking your favourite things away from you as some kind of bizarre sport. It’s just evil and so pointless. I hope you get plenty of raspberry tiptree jam in your new place. And just gradually figure out all the things you like and get them all back with a load of new ones on top. Also horrified and so sad about your real dad’s behaviour. I’m so sorry for all youve been through.

but just wanted to say 3 MORE SLEEPS (that’s right isn’t it?!) xx

I have a work from home day then DPs for the weekend with DD. I think we are going to an afternoon tea for somewhere he works on Saturday so that should be a free afternoon out at least 😁.

Hi @RaspberryBeretxx , Happy Friday . Oh your weekend sounds like it’s going to be amazing , I love afternoon tea . Make sure you take a pic for all us spoonies.
I thought it was a good deal on the internet too, there was a lot that didn’t do my postcode not sure if it’s because it’s a new area but Virgin did and I love Disney channel too so I’m pleased with that.
I think deep down is what’s happened is that I’ve had such a terrible 6 weeks with being homeless and then having a breakdown and having to go to the crisis house to then being homeless again so I’m so very excited to getting a house and I was expecting my children to share that excitement but to them they’ve been warm and safe and loved the whole time whilst I’ve been going through that so I need to realise that they are not going to share that same excitement as me . And that it’s going to be a big change for them but hopefully once they see our new home and their bedrooms I’m hoping they will start to come round .
When I do my first food shop I’m definitely going to get some raspberry tiptree jam and for my first breakfast there that’s what I’ll be having on toast.
That’s one of the reasons I kept what was happening away from my mum and step dad because my mum has already been through so much trauma in her life and I didn’t want to upset her or bring back any bad memories. I don’t like to talk about my ex with my parents too much but my mum said yesterday she didn’t realise until now how manipulative ex is , I didn’t ask her to explain but I think she means from him texting and ringing them he must have said things that’s made her realise and he also pretended he didn’t know where I was but he did as my sister told him. I think he did that to make sure nobody could help or support me .
3 MORE SLEEPS! @RaspberryBeretxx can you believe it ? xx

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Imbluedalale · 15/11/2024 16:10

nornironlady · 15/11/2024 07:55

Hello to all you lovely Spoonies! Friday is finally here.
@BeNavyCrab Welcome to the thread - you speak wise words of caution.
@Imbluedalale I was thinking about you walking past Subway on my way to the office this morning. It will always remind me of you now I bet.
As for @RaspberryBeretxx doesn't everyone sing this to themselves a la Prince every time her name pops up....or is that just me.....
Roll on noon when the working week is done! Have a great Friday 😁

Hi @nornironlady , I’ve got that song in my head now , I can’t remember the words but they go ‘it’s Friday’ and start dancing. 🕺
Does your subway smell too? I’m just not a fan I’m afraid I can’t put my finger on the smell but it’s like hot cheese , gherkins and onion . It’s a no from me 😂.
I hope you’ve enjoyed your afternoon , what’s on the menu tonight for tea?xx

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