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Women being nasty/body shaming other women

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Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 14:37

Ive just seen an article in the Daily Mail with a headline intending to body shame.
It really angers me.
I know everyone says what do you expect from journalists especially something like the Daily Mail.
But seriously in this day and age with so much focus on being kind and issues surrounding peoples mental health you would think this horrible attitude would stop.

The article is about Lauren from Only way is Essex and is clearly written in a way for people to mock her. Its so nasty especially as Lauren has spoken up only recently about how low she feels.

The fact that its another woman doing this for some reason makes me feel even angrier.

Ive posted the article on here just to show how awful journalists are and hope that Journalists like this will eventually be called out and cancelled.

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vegaspot · 01/11/2024 15:48

Mezzoprezzo · 01/11/2024 15:47

I'm with you OP. I'm not sure if other posters really haven't seen this sort of thing or if they're just being disingenuous. It's a very well known ploy. Post an unflattering picture with a faux supportive headline. And watch the bitchy comments come in

This ,you explained it better than me .

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:48

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:17

Seeing these photos and going "must be bait" means at least some part of your brain went "she looks a mess and everyone will judge her"

That's how I see it too.

There was nothing wrong with how she looked in that photo. Just a perfectly normal woman doing a perfectly normal activity.

People who dont see it that way, assume nobody else does.

Laptoppie · 01/11/2024 15:49

DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 01/11/2024 15:44

Honestly it’s confusing, and why I believe that media literacy should be taught in school. For what’s its worth, the tagline will have been added before the article was posted to website by which point the journalist will have already submitted the final article. She’ll have absolutely no say (and possibly won’t even see) the click bait link the social media team use to promote it.

But you still blamed ‘women’ despite the fact in the screenshots you shared, the only negative comments came from men. The women said positive things. Maybe consider why you were so quick to assume it was women who were being awful? You’ve judged women just as negatively as you’re claiming the last who wrote the article did.

Oh come on, do you really believe this journalist didn't know what was going on? Of course she did. Not necessarily with the social media post tag line, but with the photos and the article - they know how it works and what gets engagement with little thought to the feelings of those they do this to.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:50

@Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast yep thats exactly it 🙄

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:52

Roll your eyes all you like.
I saw an average looking woman doing an every day boring task.

What did you see?

Itiswhysofew · 01/11/2024 15:52

Maybe she's earned a bit of cash from the article.

ChampaignSupernova · 01/11/2024 15:53

I don't understand why it's always women shaming women that is seen as worse than men shaming them. Nobody should shame anybody it's as simple as that but the bar seems set higher for women which is part of the problem imo.

I don't really understand how a minor celeb walking down a road with their child is news worthy. I don't understand what a photo of her arse brings to the pointless news article either.

I think reporters rarely have good intentions and pointless articles are there to start a keyboard war between those who think she looks great and those who think the opposite. I can see how op assumed it was sarcasm and bait because the whole article is completely un-newsworthy but news papers thrive on reactions. I don't think it was specifically aimed at body shaming I think it was equally aimed at body shaming and those who will argue against anyone that does so whilst portraying themselves as supportive writers.

TheLever · 01/11/2024 15:54

I think there is a difference between recognising an unflattering photo and just saying someone looks awful due to their weight or clothing. I am sure none of us would go out of our way to post photos of ourselves, partners friends or family that were unflattering and if someone took photos of me walking down the street I probably wouldn’t find this very flattering. This doesn’t mean Lauren looks awful or a mess just that the photos were not flattering, why so many photos of her too? They were all the same outfit same place so makes no sense. It was just to get all the angles. I felt bad for her not because she looks bad but she clearly wasn’t posing for these photos so they were candid and it makes me uneasy. I wouldn’t like it. Doesn’t matter she sells photos, still doesn’t give anyone the right to really do these kind of articles

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:59

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:52

Roll your eyes all you like.
I saw an average looking woman doing an every day boring task.

What did you see?

🙄

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DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 01/11/2024 15:59

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:46

@DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby because a woman wrote the article

But the article doesn’t comment on her body? The tagline says she looks good, but that wasn’t written by the woman you attempted to name and shame. She also didn’t take the photos. These last two things are as likely to be a man as woman. Your title was ‘women’ being nasty, whilst showing some pretty awful comments from men. Why are you holding a woman to such higher standard? It’s internalised misogyny. Call it out on others by all means, but we need to be able to recognise it in ourselves too.

DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 01/11/2024 16:06

@Laptoppie Oh I think she quite likely did. Although I knew someone who worked for an online gossip site (not as big as the mail) they got given a picture and told ‘write around this’, rather than finding the pics themselves.

However it irritates me beyond measure to see / hear people criticising ‘women’ for doing xyz, while standing around watching men doing the exact same thing, yet doing and saying nothing. The op has literally posted screenshots of men being awful about Lauren’s appearance, and yet all of her frustration is reversed for the ‘women’.

Laptoppie · 01/11/2024 16:07

I suspect it's because a lot of women have higher hopes for other women than they do for men. It doesn't mean people find men acceptable or are claiming they wouldn't dare body share; but I do think there's a difference.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:09

A woman wrote the article which is why i talked about women body shaming others. The tone and headline of the piece was aimed at trying to body shame Lauren by getting people to comment.

Lets agree to disagree.

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Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:11

DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 01/11/2024 16:06

@Laptoppie Oh I think she quite likely did. Although I knew someone who worked for an online gossip site (not as big as the mail) they got given a picture and told ‘write around this’, rather than finding the pics themselves.

However it irritates me beyond measure to see / hear people criticising ‘women’ for doing xyz, while standing around watching men doing the exact same thing, yet doing and saying nothing. The op has literally posted screenshots of men being awful about Lauren’s appearance, and yet all of her frustration is reversed for the ‘women’.

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@DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby i am absolutely frustrated at men as well. But this article was written by a woman. I think its worse when a woman body shames as we all understand how judged we are by men and society.

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MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 16:11

CreationNat1on · 01/11/2024 15:40

Yes, men are not photographed like this, it's an absolute invasion of that woman's privacy and that of her daughter too.

Incorrect

Brendan Fraiser, for example, was hounded for ages when he put on weight with unflattering photographs and snide headlines. He became severely depressed because of it

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 16:18

"Women shouldn't judge other women because they know what it's like being judged by women.. so let's judge this women who's name, profile and picture I posted saying they should be called out and cancelled"

Still not getting the irony are you?

nomorehocuspocus · 01/11/2024 16:19

Using the word 'beams' as a caption to photos where the person clearly does not have a beaming smile, and where one of the photos is of her arse, is obviously intended to denigrate and poke fun at someone's appearance.

We all know what 'broad in the beam' means, and they have deliberately used the word 'beams' to describe her back view.

YANBU @Autumnlovelove - that rag is a disgrace.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:20

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 16:18

"Women shouldn't judge other women because they know what it's like being judged by women.. so let's judge this women who's name, profile and picture I posted saying they should be called out and cancelled"

Still not getting the irony are you?

Im 'judging' the journalist for making a nasty body shaming article about another woman.
There is no irony.

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5128gap · 01/11/2024 16:21

I agree OP. The woman's bottom in those trousers is obviously a long way from what our society and media typically present to us as 'looking good'. I've seen it before, with older women quite obviously looking their age, in an unflattering light in swimwear, with a headline calling them 'age defying' or some such nonsense. It's just fodder for mysogynists (internalised and otherwise).

CharlotteLucas3 · 01/11/2024 16:25

Crikey there are some naive people on this thread. This passive aggression has just replaced the obvious shaming.

And they get away with it because of all the gaslighting flying monkeys 🙄

Your perception is completely correct op.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 16:27

nomorehocuspocus · 01/11/2024 16:19

Using the word 'beams' as a caption to photos where the person clearly does not have a beaming smile, and where one of the photos is of her arse, is obviously intended to denigrate and poke fun at someone's appearance.

We all know what 'broad in the beam' means, and they have deliberately used the word 'beams' to describe her back view.

YANBU @Autumnlovelove - that rag is a disgrace.

I've literally never heard "broad in the beam" used so I think you're wrong that it's an obvious connection

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 16:29

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:20

Im 'judging' the journalist for making a nasty body shaming article about another woman.
There is no irony.

Yep

You are completely missing the irony

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:29

Ive heard of it before.

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5128gap · 01/11/2024 16:29

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:52

Roll your eyes all you like.
I saw an average looking woman doing an every day boring task.

What did you see?

What I saw were some extremely unflattering photographs of an average woman with a head line that misrepresented her as 'looking good', in a tedious and typical attempt to encourage comments disagreeing she looks good. The woman does not look good in those pictures. If they were taken by her mate on their phone they'd have deleted them and gone again. A professional photographer could have used angles and taken shots that made this average looking woman look great had that been the intent behind the article. It was not.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 16:30

@MartinCrieffsLemon i'm 'missing' the irony because there isnt any.
Anyway lets agree to disagree 🙂

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