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Women being nasty/body shaming other women

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Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 14:37

Ive just seen an article in the Daily Mail with a headline intending to body shame.
It really angers me.
I know everyone says what do you expect from journalists especially something like the Daily Mail.
But seriously in this day and age with so much focus on being kind and issues surrounding peoples mental health you would think this horrible attitude would stop.

The article is about Lauren from Only way is Essex and is clearly written in a way for people to mock her. Its so nasty especially as Lauren has spoken up only recently about how low she feels.

The fact that its another woman doing this for some reason makes me feel even angrier.

Ive posted the article on here just to show how awful journalists are and hope that Journalists like this will eventually be called out and cancelled.

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INeedAnotherName · 01/11/2024 14:59

So the journalist mentions she's happy (beams) and mentions quality time with her child and you immediately think the journalist is trying to knock that woman down?

Maybe it should be you having a SM timeout.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:00

INeedAnotherName · 01/11/2024 14:59

So the journalist mentions she's happy (beams) and mentions quality time with her child and you immediately think the journalist is trying to knock that woman down?

Maybe it should be you having a SM timeout.

Maybe

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Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:03

It want just me that felt that the article was baiting.

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:03

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 14:55

I felt it was used so that people would comment negatively.
I obviously got it wrong and did t realise it was supposed to be a positive story.
My mistake.

Well, you may have got it right. None of us know what's in the writers head.

But I would say theres potentially an issue here with those people commenting about how the article is nasty. Think of it this way.

Is it possible they read the article. They thought - looking good heart? What? She does not look good. She's not super thin and dressed up, that's not looking good. Aha! The article must be having a secret go at her the bastards!

Because in the reader's eye, she does not look good and therefore they assume the writer must not be genuine.

Because if they look at the photo and think she looks fab, would they assume the writer was being disingenuous?

That said, it is absolutely possible they hit the nail on the head and the writer was being a cow.

Or maybe they assumed the writer must be being a cow because the writer is a woman and that's how they think women are about other women?

InformerYaNoSayDaddyMeSnowMeIGoBlameALickyBoom · 01/11/2024 15:04

Women being nasty.... like you putting the name and photo of a journalist up because you interpreted a totally bland article as being nasty?

Talk about being chronically online and getting your kicks from naming and shaming people.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:04

Pap photos are always terrible

If your post was about how terrible pap photos are then that's a different issue

But trying to make this about body shaming, and calling out the journalist who didn't even write the SM tag most likely, is the problem.

bunnypenny · 01/11/2024 15:04

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:03

It want just me that felt that the article was baiting.

They are all comments from men, not the women you’re claiming are tearing Lauren down. Men think women exist only to be pleasing to their eye so who gives a fuck what they think.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:04

InformerYaNoSayDaddyMeSnowMeIGoBlameALickyBoom · 01/11/2024 15:04

Women being nasty.... like you putting the name and photo of a journalist up because you interpreted a totally bland article as being nasty?

Talk about being chronically online and getting your kicks from naming and shaming people.

Edited

Exactly

Talks about being kind whilst attacking a journalist and trying to encourage people to go after them...

TheLever · 01/11/2024 15:04

I also see these articles as having a dig at women they know exactly what reaction they get in the comments. There is no reason for these photos they don’t look staged and this is an article about absolutely nothing. Most of them are like this now

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:05

Also, the person who wrote the piece won't be the person who took the photos and maybe the photos landed on her desk and she decided to make something positive out of the paps being sleezy bastards.

loropianalover · 01/11/2024 15:08

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:03

It want just me that felt that the article was baiting.

So here’s 3 men being rude, yet it’s the female journo who very likely didn’t choose the pics or caption that you blast?! 🤣

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:09

@loropianalover it wasnt all men.

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Foxblue · 01/11/2024 15:10

Am I in another dimension - the Daily Mail has a long history of holding up women to be judged and bodyshamed by posting unflattering photos of them. Just because they have craftily avoided doing that outright in this particular article verbally, they are showing you these photos clearly so you can judge her on her appearance. Because there's no story here, she's literally on a day out with her daughter. But by rigid modern beauty standards that in part upheld by the fucking cesspit that is the media, she is not posed and in an outfit that highlights her body in the way society has deemed 'correct' or 'flattering' and they are using photos where she is mid expression, not smiling etc. What's with all the disingenuous comments pretending that this newspaper has just casually picked these photos, of a C list celebrity, in her private life, because that's newsworthy? I also believe beauty standards are trash, but the Daily Mail do not, so that's why they've posted these - they think she looks bad and they know other people will and that gets them the clicks and the ad revenue. It's not some kind of ultra progressive feminist move to cock your head and act all confused as to what's intended here because you think she looks fine - I do too, but a lot of people won't, and that's what's being sold here. Pretending that exchange hasn't taken place, between the media and it's audience, to make awful people richer, for decades, makes a mockery of the fact we are trying to do better for future generations by not engaging in discourse that will make our daughters think if they look a certain way that's 'good' and anything else is 'bad'
Once again: acknowledging that this woman's photos are being published by this newspaper because they do not meet the 'beauty standards' still lingering in society, in order to make money, does not mean you personally are thinking she looks bad.

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:10

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 15:05

Also, the person who wrote the piece won't be the person who took the photos and maybe the photos landed on her desk and she decided to make something positive out of the paps being sleezy bastards.

Her name is on the article so she is ultimately responsible for it.

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purplebeansprouts · 01/11/2024 15:11

There's nothing in that article that is negative about her appearance. It reads like one of those "where are they now?" Articles. However, there are A LOT of photos so the article does seem a bit random.

purplebeansprouts · 01/11/2024 15:13

Foxblue · 01/11/2024 15:10

Am I in another dimension - the Daily Mail has a long history of holding up women to be judged and bodyshamed by posting unflattering photos of them. Just because they have craftily avoided doing that outright in this particular article verbally, they are showing you these photos clearly so you can judge her on her appearance. Because there's no story here, she's literally on a day out with her daughter. But by rigid modern beauty standards that in part upheld by the fucking cesspit that is the media, she is not posed and in an outfit that highlights her body in the way society has deemed 'correct' or 'flattering' and they are using photos where she is mid expression, not smiling etc. What's with all the disingenuous comments pretending that this newspaper has just casually picked these photos, of a C list celebrity, in her private life, because that's newsworthy? I also believe beauty standards are trash, but the Daily Mail do not, so that's why they've posted these - they think she looks bad and they know other people will and that gets them the clicks and the ad revenue. It's not some kind of ultra progressive feminist move to cock your head and act all confused as to what's intended here because you think she looks fine - I do too, but a lot of people won't, and that's what's being sold here. Pretending that exchange hasn't taken place, between the media and it's audience, to make awful people richer, for decades, makes a mockery of the fact we are trying to do better for future generations by not engaging in discourse that will make our daughters think if they look a certain way that's 'good' and anything else is 'bad'
Once again: acknowledging that this woman's photos are being published by this newspaper because they do not meet the 'beauty standards' still lingering in society, in order to make money, does not mean you personally are thinking she looks bad.

I think you are on to something. There is no reason for them to have posted so many photos from so many angles for a trip to the theatre.

bunnypenny · 01/11/2024 15:13

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:09

@loropianalover it wasnt all men.

The women you’re quoting there are supporting her. The men you quoted above aren’t.

TheLever · 01/11/2024 15:14

I also see it as baiting and they have done this for years. They can’t get away with putting circles over lumps and bumps now so they just leave it open to the comments. It was either the DM or another outlet that published photos of Kim K on the beach (papped) that were really unflattering and although they didn’t say anything in the article, all hell broke loose online about her cellulite.

KoalaCalledKevin · 01/11/2024 15:14

Foxblue · 01/11/2024 15:10

Am I in another dimension - the Daily Mail has a long history of holding up women to be judged and bodyshamed by posting unflattering photos of them. Just because they have craftily avoided doing that outright in this particular article verbally, they are showing you these photos clearly so you can judge her on her appearance. Because there's no story here, she's literally on a day out with her daughter. But by rigid modern beauty standards that in part upheld by the fucking cesspit that is the media, she is not posed and in an outfit that highlights her body in the way society has deemed 'correct' or 'flattering' and they are using photos where she is mid expression, not smiling etc. What's with all the disingenuous comments pretending that this newspaper has just casually picked these photos, of a C list celebrity, in her private life, because that's newsworthy? I also believe beauty standards are trash, but the Daily Mail do not, so that's why they've posted these - they think she looks bad and they know other people will and that gets them the clicks and the ad revenue. It's not some kind of ultra progressive feminist move to cock your head and act all confused as to what's intended here because you think she looks fine - I do too, but a lot of people won't, and that's what's being sold here. Pretending that exchange hasn't taken place, between the media and it's audience, to make awful people richer, for decades, makes a mockery of the fact we are trying to do better for future generations by not engaging in discourse that will make our daughters think if they look a certain way that's 'good' and anything else is 'bad'
Once again: acknowledging that this woman's photos are being published by this newspaper because they do not meet the 'beauty standards' still lingering in society, in order to make money, does not mean you personally are thinking she looks bad.

Completely agree

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:15

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:10

Her name is on the article so she is ultimately responsible for it.

No
No she's not
She didn't caption on SM
She isn't writing the comments underneath
She probably didn't even pick the photos

Laptoppie · 01/11/2024 15:15

I agree with you OP, they know what they're doing, all they're worried about is engagement though and don't care.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:16

And stop posting open pictures of people's FB accounts....

Autumnlovelove · 01/11/2024 15:17

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:16

And stop posting open pictures of people's FB accounts....

Why are you so at me? Do you work in media because you seem to know a lot about how it all works.

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MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/11/2024 15:17

Seeing these photos and going "must be bait" means at least some part of your brain went "she looks a mess and everyone will judge her"

Mlanket · 01/11/2024 15:18

Of course they are having a dig but I think people don’t help themselves when they post very airbrushed photos.