Thoughts on the 1 year vaccinations please ?

[Ellamaee]

Positing on aibu in hopes to get more of a response .
my 1 year old has her 12 month vaccines on Wednesday, I wasn’t overthinking it until I seen TikTok’s of reactions to the vaccine , then all the comments saying how after the vaccine their child was having seizures, gave them health issues etc etc and how it is “literal poison” and that “they don’t make money if you’re not poorly, the vaccines are poison” also multiple stated they’ve never vaccinated their kids and they’re really healthy and never sick compared to those who have been vaccinated . My one year old is up to date with hers and now I’m absolutely dreading these one as obviously there’s 2 new ones she’s never had , am I massively overthinking this? I knowwww if she doesn’t get vaccinated she can get really sick, but then people telling me that it’s going to cause health issues, seizures, possibly Sid’s ? Is making me too scared to do it , I’m wondering if anyone has any experiences, and in hopes to reassure me that I’m doing the right thing by getting her vaccinated . I don’t want anything bad to happen to her I’m so scared . (Before anyone asks , yes I have bad anxiety as you’ll tell from my other threads lol) I don’t wanna pass it on to my daughter I just wanna do the right thing , thanks in advance

So you have looked up side effects of the vaccines. Now go back on tiktok and look up results on measles, mumps, rubella and the other very nasty illnesses your child may get from not being vaccinated.

TikTok is full of misinformation OP. If the 1 year injections actually caused side affects like this, do you think the NHS would continue the programme? There is a lot of conspiracy theory stuff online and weird people with agendas.

Perhaps if you suffer from anxiety it would be a good idea to give TikTok a wide berth.

TikTok is full of all sorts of crap. The bad thing is that once you’ve sat and watched one (probably bullshit) TikTok on vaccines you’re going to get inundated with them.

Tiktok is not a reliable source of information. Do not get medical advice or information from it.

Also, and I say this as someone with bad anxiety as well, please stop doomscrolling, get of TikTok and stop feeding your anxiety. One of the best things I did for myself

If it’s any reassurance, out of me and all of the other mums I know, none of our children have reacted to the one year vaccines

(in fact it’s one of the few that DD was 100% herself the whole time after)

Strangely, TikTok isn't full of people telling others how their kids have died of Measles, Diptheria, Tetanus, Polio, Meningitis, Whooping Cough, RSV, or how they lost babies due to in utero Rubella. No 'inspiring' 'Look how brave she is in her iron lung' or 'walking on her prosthetics due to both legs being amputated inn emergency surgery as a result of sepsis from meningitis (a far too common thing in the press in the 1990s prior to the meningitis vaccines becoming available) or covered with scars from Smallpox posts, either.

You know why? Because

a) most people get their kids vaccinated so they don't have these diseases,

b) most people get their kids vaccinated and herd immunity means the ones that aren't are less likely to come into contact with them/in the case of smallpox, it's been eradicated through vaccination and most of all,

c) there's no money in showing the consequences of antivaxxers' rhetoric, but shitloads in monetising scaremongering bollocks about one of the major factors in reducing infant and child mortality over the last couple of centuries.

Nah I reckon OP should go and watch lots of lovely baking, travel, bit of booktok, some good comedians and basically reset the algorithm with nice things.

He's an anti vaccine activist and conspiracy theorist.

Sadly, some children will have seizures or other health issues. In some cases, that will happen for the first time when they are about 12-14 months. That does not mean that they were caused by their 12 month vaccines.

I split them with mine as otherwise it would’ve been 4 injections in one go which seems brutal to me.

Waited a month or so for the other 2.

I am much older than you and a science related MSc and I still have a bit of vaccine anxiety for my kids. I know logically it is the best thing to do for them but obviously there are very rarely side effects and I worry in case we are the unlucky ones who have a bad reaction. Have a weird fear of flying since having them as well even through logically i probably but them at greater risk driving everyday. Humans are really bad at understanding risk properly basically and I hope you can find a way to manage your anxiety and not pass it on and make the sensible health choices for your DC. Also my DC had no adverse reactions and even a temperature at the 1 year vaccinations - my youngest didn't even cry at the injection!

Did you not post the exact same thing about the three year jabs? It's getting very boring now

Step away from TikTok.

Vaccines have made the world a dramatically safer place for our children. They are an amazing invention, and while not risk free, very very safe.

Have you ever seen someone with the effects of polio in childhood? It's heartbreaking and life changing. And that is someone that has lived. Measles kill.

It is your choice, but please get your information from reputable sources, not TikTok influencers who make money from views.

No I didn’t post about 3 year jabs before because my child is only 1🤣

Thank you to everyone who was nice and helpful . I know some people have said to spread it out , am I better to do that? Or is it better to give her all 4 at once?

4 all in once. Also by asking us that you're basically relying on strangers on the internet for medical advice - we could be anybody really! Please save stuff like that for asking your doctor, they will be able to tell you everything you need to know.

Any vaccine has a risk of side effects. The risk of severe side effects like you mentioned in your post is very low. The risk of health complications or death from the diseases the vaccines prevent against is much higher.
The stories on TikTok of health problems following vaccination may be completely unrelated to the vaccine (eg. They have epilepsy and the first seizure randomly coincided with the timing of the vaccination).
As for making money off sick people - we live in the UK. The vaccines are provided by the NHS, as are the disease treatments. The NHS saves money by people not getting sick, hence why they advise vaccination.
We are very lucky that we live in a country that has had widespread vaccination for long enough that most of us will have no memory of what life was like before vaccines.
You sound really anxious; you should speak to your GP or self-refer to mental health services. I had CBT through the NHS and it really helped me. X

Look up SSPE. If the thought of that doesn't scare you more than some idiotic manipulative TikToks, there's no hope for you.

There's usually no harm in giving the vaccines as per the schedule, except, I suppose, in particular medical circumstances which you'd already be aware of if they affected you.

Do whatever is recommended to you by health professionals. You can ask them questions though! If it puts you at ease, when you take her in for her vaccines ask whether it’s okay to have them all at once and the doctor/nurse will be able to reassure you.

Just to drive in the message and make it crystal clear OP. If you see anything like this on tiktok or any other social media, run a mile.

Yes, he was pretty rough.
Whenever he coughed, he would struggle to catch his breath to the point where he would then retch and bring up food and any liquid. It didn’t help that he has asthma too.
Lasted for about three months but completely better now (hence why they call it the 100 day cough).

His asthma nurse explained that the whooping cough vaccine is good for about 10 years which is why he and the children in his year and above were all less immune and catching it.

Interestingly, it’s supposed to be super contagious but my 4 year old daughter and I managed to avoid it, presumably because of her immunisations and the vaccine I would have had during my pregnancy with her.

Definitely one to avoid.
I hope all goes well on Wednesday. Get your Calpol and cuddles ready xx You may find as it’s more of a booster this time, she’ll breeze through it xx

There will always be some anti vaxxers online OP. They tend to be the ones who believe essential oils cure all illnesses and that the world is flat.

The 99% of people who do vaccinate don't go around making videos about it usually, so you're seeing a very small minority posting.

I'd trust the medical professionals who have years and years of training on this one. I do get that these videos can cause some doubt, but if your baby ends up being one of the ones who dies or gets permanently ill as a result of not having the vaccine, you'll never forgive yourself

The right question is not “is there a risk of an adverse reaction to a vaccine” - yes, but it is really small - it is “is the risk of vaccine higher than the risk of disease against which the vaccine protects”. The evidence is overwhelmingly that having the vaccine is much lower risk.

It’s lighthearted and a few years only. but I really like this as an explanation:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo

I’d look up the side effects of getting meningitis / the long term health issues if you survive that is.

coz that’s what vaccines do- reduce likelihood of death or long term harm.

there isn’t a big conspiracy that everyone working in the NHS wants to harm the general public.

its totally normal to worry and do due diligence but you’re not going to retrain as a medical researcher and check formulations of vaccines. So at some point you need to trust medical research. Maybe slight YABU for potentially letting your own issues (anxiety / OCD) affect your child’s access to healthcare (if that’s what you do).

im sure the number of adverse reactions are recorded bY MHRA so probably you can view them? But keep in mind people can report anything eg if I had the medicine and had a sore throat during the trial, I could say it was due to the medicine, so it would be recorded as an adverse effect.

Vaccines go through rigorous testing. They are proven to work, not just on an individual level but on a society level as well. Look at the rising levels of polio since people started to refuse vaccinations. It doesn't only affect your child it also affects children who for valid reasons cannot receive vaccines.

Everything on this earth carries risk and of course as parents we want to protect our children from this risk. But the risks of your child getting seriously unwell from not being vaccinated are going to be much greater than risk from the vaccine itself. Otherwise we wouldn't have them available. Also you need to consider things like children do get ill, sometimes children can spike temperatures and if those aren't managed properly seizures can happen. Is that the vaccines fault? Or could these things sometimes happen by coincidence as childhood seizures are not totally uncommon.

Anyone can go online and spout misinformation and I'd also think it's important to say that while big pharma is absolutely an issue in countries like the US its not an issue in quite the same way here in the UK. Whereas much of the info online is not UK based in its origin.

There are many different types of vaccines so you need to speak to your hv and gp if you really want legitimate information on this.

I know what you mean OP. I went to see my GP and she told me some stuff. All well and good, but I couldn’t help noticing that she had a mouse pad with a drug company name on it. That made me want to do some other research of my own.

So…I went on TikTok, then Insta, then had a look on the David Icke forum, then I read some Facebook pages called ‘Tin Foil Hat Truths’, then I asked a homeopath, and finally I took some advice from a few hippy cult leaders.

Very eye opening. I’m really undecided. But I’m not an antivaxxer. Honest.