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To have frugality fatigue. (Cost of living.)

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KnopkaPixie · 26/10/2024 18:03

Just that really. To do so well with finances for nearly a month then get an unexpected expense out of left field, pretending that lentil dahl is absolutely delicious, to have signed up to do surveys on YouGov and the rest and have made sod all, can't work any more hours, can't cut costs any more, can't claim anything off the state and to be kicking myself for not saving more when I had the chance. Just a moan really.

I never wanted to be that kind of miserable gît that resents every penny or knows, "The cost of everything but the value of nothing" But that's the way the value brand cookie is not crumbling right now.

Perhaps a bit woo but sometimes I wonder whether a real poverty mindset becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and perhaps a more speculate to accumulate mentality might do me better? Not any manifesting flapdoodle but just an idle thought.

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CandidHedgehog · 28/10/2024 15:41

ChishiyaBat · 28/10/2024 14:59

I've just been told we are helpfully getting paid early in December so no UC for me as it means i'm getting paid twice in the 30day assessment period, Merry fucking Christmas😂. On top of that I have to stretch that pay 5weeks instead of 4.

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https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/paying-employees-early-at-christmas/

If this is happening, your payroll department has screwed up (or doesn’t understand the law).

Paying employees early at Christmas - Moneysoft

Paying employees early at Christmas Some employers may choose to pay their employees earlier than usual during the Christmas period. HMRC have asked that If you do pay early, then it is important that you still report the normal payment date on the FPS...

https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/paying-employees-early-at-christmas

ChishiyaBat · 28/10/2024 15:47

CandidHedgehog · 28/10/2024 15:41

https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/paying-employees-early-at-christmas/

If this is happening, your payroll department has screwed up (or doesn’t understand the law).

Thank you. I will ask my manager about that.

@greenday16B they are appalling honestly just wish I could get more hours so I could tell them to shove it, but i've been looking for 6months and there is nothing around me that fits in with the hours I already have and around my caring responsibilities.

SpiritOfEcstasy · 28/10/2024 16:07

I totally understand how you’re feeling OP. I don’t like daal either! I’ve had a tough time financially in the last ten months & I hate constantly checking my bank account and calculating how many days left until the end of the month etc. that feels like a poor mindset! There’s definitely something to be said for making a gratitude list & focusing on that more - such as, I live in a lovely place. The beach is free. I am healthy. My DDs are happy. This too shall pass etc. I’m incredibly grateful that this has somewhat passed for me now but it’s hard going. Sending a hug x

greenday16B · 28/10/2024 16:10

ChishiyaBat · 28/10/2024 15:47

Thank you. I will ask my manager about that.

@greenday16B they are appalling honestly just wish I could get more hours so I could tell them to shove it, but i've been looking for 6months and there is nothing around me that fits in with the hours I already have and around my caring responsibilities.

" Caring responsibilities" I hear you.

ChishiyaBat · 28/10/2024 16:24

greenday16B · 28/10/2024 16:10

" Caring responsibilities" I hear you.

It's tough isn't it, people don't realise how hard it is mentally.

Wantitalltogoaway · 28/10/2024 17:21

Autumnweddingguest · 27/10/2024 07:39

OP you have my utmost sympathy and respect. I remember repairing my own teeth with superglue more than once because I couldn't afford the dentist, having long hair and pretending it was a choice because I couldn't afford a haircut, pretending I wasn't interested in fashion, because what was the point?

I don't regret that (long) period of my life. It gave me a huge appreciation of the wealth of free things in the world - superb exhibitions at galleries and museums, free concerts, even marketing handouts of samples. I also learned to appreciate the riches of nature. You don't need much money to have the best weekend ever. A muddy walk in the woods, looking for different types of mushrooms and moss, or collecting wild garlic or brambles for cooking, watching the seasons change and the sunlight rise and fall in the sky - there's little better. Coming home to the infamous MN roast chicken (that I can still genuinely get three different meals for four adults from Grin).

Life is far better now. I definitely agree that a poverty mindset doesn't help. It isn't woo manifesting to have an attitude to life that leans towards believing you are capable of making enough money to be comfortable. I started occasionally spending what I 'couldn't afford' on things I really wanted and discovered I wasn't poorer as a result.

Stop wasting time on stupid surveys. I never understood that £10 a day thread on MN. Your time is precious and valuable. Don't waste it scrabbling for pennies. Work out what you are seriously good at. The best way to do this is to think of things that others keep praising you for, that you take for granted. Then use that skill to earn above NMW per hour as a sideline. I had three related skills I just took for granted. I turned them into tutoring children, teaching adults and doing some work for local businesses. Within a couple of years this was my new profession and I was earning more than double NMW most of the time and up to four times NMW some of the time, depending on projects.

My advice is: go and buy something small, relatively inexpensive but utterly luxurious that you really want. Do this once a week for the next month. Do the same with recipes. Once a week buy what you actually want to eat, not what you should. You can live on beans the rest of the time. You can be clever about it if you want and go for yellow sticker fresh tuna steaks that need to be eaten that day, for example. But once a week pick up something because you want to eat it or to use/have it. And once a month have a family treat that does seem a bit frivolous. It will stop life from feeling so gruelling.

This is the best post on the thread.

KnopkaPixie · 28/10/2024 18:09

Wantitalltogoaway · 28/10/2024 17:21

This is the best post on the thread.

Yes it is! Funnily enough I'm having a breaded chicken breast sort of cheat's Weiner Schnitzel tonight with some real live pigeon heart mini tomatoes in the raw that have never been in a tin.
I can feel the protein and vitamin c coursing through my veins.
I have to put the oxygen mask on myself before trying to help other passengers sometimes.
Thanks Mumsnet collective. X.

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KnopkaPixie · 28/10/2024 18:29

KnopkaPixie · 28/10/2024 18:09

Yes it is! Funnily enough I'm having a breaded chicken breast sort of cheat's Weiner Schnitzel tonight with some real live pigeon heart mini tomatoes in the raw that have never been in a tin.
I can feel the protein and vitamin c coursing through my veins.
I have to put the oxygen mask on myself before trying to help other passengers sometimes.
Thanks Mumsnet collective. X.

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I just walked round the supermarket and thought €2.84 for some actual meat with real breadcrumbs and herbs. Sod it, I'm having that. €1 packet of tomatoes. And why not?

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greenday16B · 28/10/2024 18:53

Suggest you write a blog and make money.

Teach Chinese students on line.

Eat protein

Step away from the Dahl/ dahl.

Gnomy · 28/10/2024 18:54

KnopkaPixie · 28/10/2024 18:29

I just walked round the supermarket and thought €2.84 for some actual meat with real breadcrumbs and herbs. Sod it, I'm having that. €1 packet of tomatoes. And why not?

Good for you OP, hope you enjoyed it 🍻

Seaside3 · 28/10/2024 21:54

Thank you @Autumnweddingguest I think we are singing from the same page.
It's not wrong to want better, to imagine a life which doesn't revolve around lentils. It's OK to say 'I want to earn money. To live my life rather than scrape through it.'
Use the best crockery, wear your favourite clothes. Because even Dahl can be a little better when served in your favourite bowl.

Ukrainebaby23 · 28/10/2024 22:09

Goodness yes, long term frugality, particularly that has no apparent end, only worsening, is wearing, depressing and miserable.

I think we are heading back that way after a few years of easier times and I'm hurting already.

Wantitalltogoaway · 29/10/2024 06:40

I think there are two types of people on this thread. It’s very interesting.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 08:40

I'm getting scared about the budget. I know it's a massive luxury but I don't want to get rid of the car. It keeps me sane.
What a shit show really.

ByMerryKoala · 29/10/2024 08:50

Yes, it does feel like everyone is on tenterhooks. I'm really worried about what it means for my dm if there are any other swipes at pensioners. It puts knots in my stomach.

Isitjustmeoranyoneelse · 29/10/2024 08:53

I'm worried about them going on the middle earners (the 35-55k bracket) . 2 middle earners in a home will manage, but 1 on their own will soon run the risk of losing their home if squeezed much more.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 09:06

Isitjustmeoranyoneelse · 29/10/2024 08:53

I'm worried about them going on the middle earners (the 35-55k bracket) . 2 middle earners in a home will manage, but 1 on their own will soon run the risk of losing their home if squeezed much more.

I think I can just about understand the pressures on people but 70K or 110 K coming into a household?

It seems an unbelievable amount of money to me. ( pensioner)

Isitjustmeoranyoneelse · 29/10/2024 09:08

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 09:06

I think I can just about understand the pressures on people but 70K or 110 K coming into a household?

It seems an unbelievable amount of money to me. ( pensioner)

You'll see I said my concern is towards single income households in that bracket. Dual income will manage.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 09:10

OK probably not thinking straight. Thanks

Katemax82 · 29/10/2024 10:35

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 09:06

I think I can just about understand the pressures on people but 70K or 110 K coming into a household?

It seems an unbelievable amount of money to me. ( pensioner)

70k keeps our family of 5 (nearly 6) and I get dla and Carers allowance so more like 78. But our rent is really high and we live rurally so have to drive (my husband works an hours drive away) but I thank my lucky stars every day that we have his job.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 11:13

@Katemax82 That's interesting. The last thing I want is an on line scrap but that seems an absolutely huge amount of money.
Maybe I'm just hopelessly out of date, quite possibly.
Granted our home is paid for ( Thank God) but there's nothing surplus.

Katemax82 · 29/10/2024 12:13

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 11:13

@Katemax82 That's interesting. The last thing I want is an on line scrap but that seems an absolutely huge amount of money.
Maybe I'm just hopelessly out of date, quite possibly.
Granted our home is paid for ( Thank God) but there's nothing surplus.

Yes our rent is 1600 a month

Londonmummy66 · 29/10/2024 12:55

@greenday16B I'm afraid that it depends where they live - a family in London say a nurse and a retail worker or a nurse and a teacher - might well fall into that bracket. But after tax they won't be seeing anything like that amount of money and then they need to find rent transport etc and they'd be lucky to find anything to rent for a family that's less than £2500. Then there's probably wrap around care for the children (or nursery that can easily equal rent for 2 children), school uniform, etc

It's not a race to the bottom but I suspect that with your mortgage paid off and presumably grown up children you may well have a similar amount in the kitty at the end of the month.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 15:33

@Londonmummy66 No. it's not a competition for sure. Things have changed so much, so quickly.
Until fairly recently somebody saying , " Look your house is paid for and you have XXX per month extra" would have seemed pretty decent.
It goes nowhere.

Thanks for your incites, I am horribly out of date.

greenday16B · 29/10/2024 15:44

insights.

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