To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

[Pineconecollector]

I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

Cheating, dangerous, we should wait decades apparently as two decades aren’t enough, we should do it the hard way. So many bitter little comments.

but the fact remains, scientists have cured obesity, and that is a huge breakthrough with enormous benefits to society.

and I for one am very grateful to that smart person or persons who did created these drugs. They should get the Nobel peace prize or whatever.

Since a drug was banned after approval, we should then be afraid or say No to any drug approved for the same purpose. I wonder what other commonly-used drugs this wise concept can be applied to or if it's just for WLI.

It's like all the other quick fix stuff . Time for some self discipline.

Totally feel this way too
So grateful that scientists have cured obesity
So grateful that drug companies poured money into researching this condition and have funded the scientists who have found the cure

They sure should get Nobel prize

InductionHobRocks, rubbish, anybody over a size 12/ 14 was considered plump in the seventies. Evolution hasn't moved that fast! Lack of discipline and laziness underpins this obesity crisis. Now they're looking for a quick fix which STILL does not include self discipline or moving more!!!

Not sure if that poster means any of these:

The FDA has requested the withdrawal of weight loss medications due to safety concerns, including:

Belviq (lorcaserin): The FDA requested that the manufacturer of Belviq voluntarily withdraw the drug from the market after a clinical trial showed an increased risk of cancer.

Sibutramine: The FDA withdrew sibutramine from the market in 2010 after the SCOUT trial showed an increase in cardiovascular events.

Fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine: These drugs were withdrawn due to the potential to damage heart valves.

Rimonabant: This drug was withdrawn due to significant psychiatric adverse effects.

Was it one of those @ poison

Indeed. Drugs are trialed and discontinued or other drugs stopped and replaced all the time

Or you could always try the science? Just a thought.

I actually feel second hand embarassment for you.

As much as I think it’s kind of you to try to help the poster come up with a drug, they said it was decades ago. So can’t be, and one of those was repurposed for epliepsy. Forunately science has moved on,

I could (and have on other threads) detailed my 9 stone weight loss over two years on Ozempic and then Wegovy. my lack of side effects, the myriad physical and mental health benefits. The decades of yo-yo dieting, pain, mental anguish and white-knuckle effort on a series of increasingly restrictive diets that preceded my current success.

I could tell these people about the huge changes that I have made to my diet and my life. The 4 times a week heavy weight training to preserve and build muscle, the walks, the spin classes, the improvement in my arthritic knee. The absolute miracle that these drugs TOGETHER with my own efforts have produced in my life but what is the point?

They have their agenda, they aren't interested in us losing weight and getting healthy and slim for whatever twisted reason and logic.

My friends, remember the words of George Bernard Shaw
“Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”

That’s just fantastic @DareDevil223 😊

As an aside, I too love heavy weight training, it’s very empowering!

I guess I'd be worried about long term effects though. Like maybe taking this drug causes cancer but you won't find out for another 10-20 years. That's what would concern me

And for the second time on this thread....

@Angrymum22

''So many people are suspicious of routine vaccinations but are queuing for miles for a relatively ne drug that takes the effort out of weight loss"

Why do you assume anti vaxers are also the ones taking WLI?

Isn't the assumption those that those who are on WLI, are happy to ram any old concoction into their bodies, so infact are more likely to have the vaccinations too?

Or are you just making shit up?

Obesity is the no 1 highest cause of cancer. after two decades, and decades before in research, there is no indication these drugs cause cancer. And science has come a long long way now in terms of testing. But we know obesity does. And heart attack, heart disease and stroke. That’s what obesity does.

taking these drugs isn’t about vanity for most of us. It’s because of the very real risks of serious illness we face today. Anyone who thinks well just keep trying to do it yourself just in case in a couple of decades there is a slight but unlikely chance it has a slightly increased risk of cancer. And stay with the overwhelming risk of serious illness you face today , needs to think about their risk assessment criteria.

and do we say it ro women who take hrt? Don’t take it, or the very many other drugs that may slightly increase the risk. No we don’t/

but we say it to fat people.

www.roswellpark.org/cancertalk/202409/ozempic-thyroid-cancer#:~:text=While%20researchers%20have%20found%20no,to%20warrant%20a%20boxed%20warning.

"as with most things, people will game the system and not use it for its true purpose. Doesn’t make it inherently bad."

Isn't that a bit like what the drug companies were saying about oxycontin? Can't say that one worked out.
They absolutely have a place and could potentially be a game changer for a lot of people but they should NOT be available to buy online and relying on people telling the truth.
You should need to be seen, in person, suitability assessed and then monitoring periodically.

here is no indication these drugs cause cancer.

the earliest laboratory research identifying a correlation between semaglutide and medullary thyroid cancers was strong enough for the FDA to warrant a boxed warning.

Whilst hopefully the drugs will reduce cancer cases as obesity is a large cause of cancer - its untrue that there is no indication these drugs cause cancer

Ah I see. Drugs come and go all the time. I personally think the weight loss injections are a great help. Prevention of future problems linked to being overweight has to be good.

Indeed. Very valid points. WLD obviously help so giving people access to them to improve overall health sounds good to me

I’m talking mounjaro, and for the others it is a very slight increased risk as opposed to it absolutely causes cancer.. Like hrt. and thousands of other drugs.

and the drugs out today are just the start. New ones are moving to patient trial now. We are only at the start of this Journey,

In 20 years I’ll be in my 70s. I’ll take my chances on using the drugs to help me get there. It’s a lot less likely I will if I stay morbidly obese.

Bossygal, please don't because I'm saying what no-one wants to hear.

The view of the “antis” on these threads is always crystal clear. They are in no way concerned about the health implications of the drugs on the fat, lazy people they’ve berated and felt superior to all these years. They’re just pissed off that we might now have something to help us be more like them and want to rubbish it. It’s so transparent.