To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

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I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

I don't think people who don't struggle with chronic overeating can possibly understand how much of a game changer these injections are.

Its as if you had a constant itch that drives you crazy, and only goes away temporarily when you eat, but comes back really quickly. The itch is sooo annoying that it you just want it to stop, and you don't have the headspace to make the right choices in how you get rid of it, because you're so fucking itchy.

The injections turn off the itch. They make food a thing you can actually forget about for long periods, and have you feeling satisfied after small portions.

I'm prepared to keep taking (and paying) for these for as long as I need to, potentially forever

Each to their own. It does drive me mad though when people clearly haven’t researched it properly & ask ridiculous questions about it. Or complaining they haven’t lost 6st in a week.

I was on the jabs for diabetes - I was not and am not obese. I’m no longer able to get the jabs but have the ingredient in tablet form.
I do think that as part of reducing obesity, the jabs are a good thing but their use should be tempered with the knowledge that we don’t yet know if there are any long term negative effects.
People are definitely lying to get the jabs, I know someone who eats healthily and works out every day but wants to be thin thin. It’s not really a healthy weight for her physique. However, she has used a photo of when she was heavier and has bought the jabs.
Ultimately the suppliers don’t care about the buyers, they just want the money and those who lie to get them don’t care about possible side effects; they just want to lose weight.

Almost everyone who is severely obese will eventually have weight-related illnesses. The jabs will have risks attached, but I imagine that the logic is that the risks of the jabs are lower than the risks of obesity.

@Bossygal I was really surprised! They're just not that big a deal

The long-term effects will be interesting to observe
The fact that so many people would not have a covid jab 'because it hadn't been trialled enough', yet are happy to use a massive drug that us not yet fully approved for weight loss, is just stupid

Definitely a bad move.
But hey, get on with it!
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For goodness sake. I am 21 stone I've been overweight my entire life, bar through covid when I actually managed to lose a few stone by running myself into the floor (literally, I was running a half marathon every week). Please God just TRY and imagine what life is like at this size. When you have to think about how strong furniture is before you sit down. When nothing fits. When every time you walk into a room you are assessing if you are the biggest person there, and yep. You are. You're out of breath going upstairs, and doing shoelaces up is an issue. You have nightmares about having a heart attack or stroke and leaving your children.
When you feel monstrously huge next to anyone else. When you've tried for YEARS to lose weight and simply haven't the strength.
Yes injections aren't perfect. But they give a small bit of help that is so so important- I've tried going through the NHS. It's crap - Because ironically I'm as healthy as a horse, just fat, there isn't much they offer. I am too exhausted through being this size to exercise over my 3 mile walk a day. I'll take it gladly and I don't care if I have to stay on it for bloody years as long as I can hang on to my health.

I have considered them for myself in the future but I'm not massively overweight...however I am dubious and sceptical of the long term side effects and that's what is stopping me to be honest.

I think they're great for people who are grossly obese and their health is suffering (so the side effects potentially outweigh this) but worry about those like myself who would use them for small weight gain and wonder it the unknown long term potential side effects are worth it...

These drugs have been used for years.

The suppression of the appetite has always been there.

I would be really concerned about her knowledge.

How has she never heard of them, doesnt she work with anyone who is diabetic, its more or less the same medication, isnt she keeping up to date with new developments and advances?

I think they are amazing. People are getting amazing results creating better habits and kicking obesity after not being able to for decades of trying themselves. What is the issue? Surely people who have had such good results and major lifestyle changes aren't just going to undo all that work once they come off the injections. Not to mention the fact that people will unlikely be able to over eat like before given that everything will have shruk now.

Best post on this thread.

so many people who have no clue on this subject think they have a right to an opinion on the weight of others.

It is licensed for weight loss, what makes you think it isnt?

gosh, I have so little insight into other people's lives. I know exactly only one person IRL on Monjaro & she's got me on strict instructions not to tell anyone.

... I'm on the fence. I suspect it will go like bariatric surgery but with much lower risk of any harm, some people will benefit hugely, others will merely stop getting bigger but still be very big, many will find out the rest of their life is still crap and find it unsustainable to maintain jabs. There will be weird and dangerous complications for a very small minority. Like any other medical intervention? MJ/Wgny doesn't fix underlying problems and those problems make people so unhappy, would be better to try to fix them instead, but if that were easy, would be done already.

Bariatric surgery is permanent physical alteration with some awful risks. The jabs are far better option over that.

@soupfiend to be fair it was in A&E so perhaps they're just not seeing the masses of people keeling over with side effects that they're reporting!

They start eating again....

I have anorexia nervosa and sometimes reading about people's experiences with it, it makes me feel someone has created a jab to emulate my disorder.

Which makes me angry because me not wanting to eat had me sent to hospital. So being able to abstain naturally is a problem, not having the desire to eat naturally is a problem, but when it makes shareholders money from an injection it's absolutely fine.

Maybe im being irrational though. Would be very interested to know how many calories on average people on the jab are having per day when its working as intended.

If it's less than the recommended minimum for their situation, and yet thats being applauded, then that would be truly eyebrow raising.

If they're eating reasonably still then I'd relent, but they're losing weight so fast in many cases... which makes me wonder how they could be.

Maybe the difference is once the jab stops, their abstaining behaviour stops, whereas i cannot stop once I start.

I don’t get why the common response on these threads is often ‘we know nothing about the long term effects’. GLP drugs have been in use for decades.

I'm on them.

I'm consuming anywhere between 1200-1600 a day.

It's not that "I don't want to eat" as in it's a conscious choice to not eat. I'm not sat here refusing food. I still enjoy food. I enjoy 3 meals a day. But I don't feel hungry in between meals and I can say no to all the things I couldn't before.

I used to eat 4-5 packs of crisps in one day. That's now 4 across the last 10 weeks.

I ensure I get 5 portions of fruit and veg minimum and 80+g of protein

I am using Mounjaro and haven't ended up in hospital or in bed. On the other hand, I've never used TikTok. I wonder how scientific the survey on TikTok was, or is it just random individuals? I have read in the press that people using fake Ozempic have ended up in hospital - this is hardly surprising. Mounjaro was approved by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency in 2023 for weight loss. There are many potential side effects (as there are consequences for obesity). Likewise, there are potential side effects from taking aspirin or paracetamol, especially if taken incorrectly. So far as I can see, there just isn't any robust evidence concerning hospital admission for people taking weight loss medication according to the guidelines.

Grossly obese? Nice language. What about those of us who are only a little bit obese?
You clearly are not obese so should not be considering misusing this medication. What your opinion on those people who are in the category to benefit from it has to do with anything is not clear.

My discount code for the injections is:

KETO

you get the same effect without spending ££££ - I lost 5 stone last year which was really easy because my blood sugar wasn’t constantly being spiked. Same as the jabs.

Anyway regardless of the method I’m glad obesity is finally being taken seriously.

Honestly, the people who can barely eat on Mounjaro are the minority. I'm eating 3 decent meals a day and I do want to eat, just don't want to overeat and don't spend all day thinking about eating/not eating like I used to. Like everything popular and new, only the extreme examples are discussed in the media. The medication does not emulate anorexia in the vast majority of people.

I dont understand people taking them when they are say a stone or two overweight and would be able to address that in other, less risky ways. And ways that don't potentially store up problems in the future, like you say, when ppl come off them etc

But for ppl seriously overweight, having spent years trying other methods, then I can understand that, because the risks of these meds probably outweigh the risks of being seriously obese.