To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

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I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

Bit of superiority going on there with your slim lives 😂 but there’s a difference between employing self control and restraint, forcing yourself to exercise etc, and not just an easy fix which does the work for you.

@Leniriefenstahl why is that difference important? When employing self control clearly takes an extraordinary amount of effort for many people, when stressful lives get in the way and that control is lost? Why is it necessary to only do it through total self control at all times, when there is an available solution that makes achieving that control doable regardless of life stress and other disrupting factors?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but factually you are incorrect. Thd injections are not into your veins. Into muscle. Don't take them if not for you. Some others wish to though.

I was coming to say they are not vein injections, you just find a fat bit and stab it into that. No veins involved.

Soon they will be in pill form though.

Oh crikey! I'm sorry, I need to clarify a few things because people seem.a.bit.unhappy with my.post

1. The side effects scared me. I wasn't meaning to.imply that everyone else should be scared by the side effects. I personally read some stuff about thyroid cancer and it scared me. I panicked myself. That's ok

1. I am sorry, I didn't mean to.imply weight loss jabs are 'bad' for everyone. I just came on to share my story. For me these jabs have been bad news. The talk about them, media reports and documentaries on them, celebs using them, have all really triggered me and led me to inject (once) when I really really should not have.

1. I totally understand these injections might help some people who are obese. I'm sorry if I said or implied otherwise.

1. I didn't mean to say that the needs of people with AN or BN or who are recovering or recovered from these disorders trump those of people who are obese. I just came on to share my own story.

1. For me, and I would think many others, the ease with which you can get these injections, the constant media discussion of them, the celebs using them etc.. led me down a path that is not healthy and was not wise. I think the injections are bad news for me and people.like me. But that doesn't mean I don't think they should be available to people who need them. Maybe we just need more sensible media and I do firmly believe these should not be given by anyone except a GP who is registered, who has seen and evaluated the patient, and who knows the patients medical history. An online pharmacy distributing these is not a great plan (in my opinion but that's just my opinion and others may disagree and that's fine).

Sorry for any offence or confusion caused by my post

Not traumatic really, just a normal for the time 60s childhood. He likes food, he eats too much. Love him to bits, not judging him at all, but it is interesting to compare how my ex partner (skinny as anything) treated food (small portions, knowing when full) and how DP does, picking at it, missing meals then eating in the evenings, feeling full then 2 hours later making a sandwich. Maybe there is a psychological issue there, who knows.

If I’m honest I suspect many people (probably like myself who’s always had to work hard to stay just within a healthy weight) are envious. It seems like a quick easy fix whilst the rest of us are having to restrain ourselves. And many couldn’t afford it anyway.

@CoffeeAndATwix that all sounds like a very specific "you" problem and not a basis for a general view point.

Just as a correction, the online prescribing is done by doctors. They review each application, communicate with the patient if necessary and ask for further information. It's the same process as for all the other prescription-only medications that you can access online. There is a possibility with all of the available medications that someone could lie and obtain prescriptions that they shouldn't be able to. It's not a weight loss injection specific issue.

@CoffeeAndATwix don't feel bad- I think it's really helpful to hear from people about how eating disorders, even if you are recovered, might be affected by these jabs, and it might be something worrying for them, although my feeling is that for those who binge-eat/bulimics, it may end up being a treatment pathway for them, under supervision and with counselling on the side.

There are very few treatments for eating disorders, almost none really, and it has a very high MH and mortality rate, higher than for most other psychiatric conditions, and so we do need to think about how this might work out for some.

I think it was just the stuff about it seeming like you were saying it had a high cancer rate, rather than the cancer rate worried you that people were querying. There is not a high cancer rate in humans, that is demonstrably shown so far, anyway. We don't know over the very long-term, like with lots of slightly newer medications.

Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's here. That was your reaction, and many will think similarly.

@Leniriefenstahl my point was why would he say he had a traumatic childhood or was depressed if that wasn't true. That doesn't apply to him. People are different! You can't decide that because you and your partner are easily able to lose weight without help, that everyone else can and should.

But it wouldn't? You need to understand more about it. It doesn't speed up weight loss?

Yes you do. Holding up a piece of paper with today’s date.

Maybe we should have another AMA thread about Mounjaro myths?

Sure, be overweight and do it what you perceive as the hard way. Genuinely. No one is going to make you take the drugs, being overweight and doing it the hard way if it makes you happy. I wish you the best of luck on your journey. I will happily do the “easy fix”.

can I ask why you’re all over these threads. If you don’t want to take medication snd wish to struggle why not go on the weight loss threads instead.

Incorrect.

Go to Chemist4U and can order them with popping in information and no body pictures. Go try it.

@Toomanywars I wouldn't choose to use a pharmacy that didn't do adequate checks and I would report them to the GPhC too. Why would you advertise poor quality care?

I had to send a photo - I wore 4 pairs of jeans and employed a few other tricks. When people r desperate they take desperate measures. I believe a doctor should physically see you before the medication is prescribed. That would have stopped me from trying to get hold of this injection.

Back at the height of my eating disorder, when I was young, id have done anything to get this 'magic' cure (as I'd have seen it). A photo is easy to produce and easy to fake. I do worry for people with eating disorders currently. Especially young people who are desperate. There is no way these injections will not be falling into the wrong hands. Ways to get it will be all over pro-ana websites too.

There are no long-term studies for the use of these drugs as weightloss injections. I know you are just going to argue regardless, but that is also a fact.

I don’t need to. I’m not morbidly obese. BMI is about 25/6 but I struggle.
You’ll just pile it all back on though so go ahead..

Gosh if only there weren’t hundreds of weight loss jab bashing threads you could have read and contributed your invaluable opinion on already

YABU

You absolutely do for licensed providers with your bare body showing too!

I did have to send a photo - but not my bare body!

@poisongreen stop posting nonsense. There have been many large scale long term trials for tirzepatide and semaglutide. The SURMOUNT trials for tirzepatide for instance, SURMOUNT-4 most recently which was specifically for obese people without diabetes and weight loss.

I use the same Pharmacy where I also receive my NHS prescriptions. They contacted my GP via letter to let them know I've been prescribed Mounjaro so that it would be on my record. I also spoke to my GP and the surgery pharmacist about it to ensure it didn't interfere with any of my medications and to get advice. I have an 'open door' to contact my GP should any issues arise from it.

If you don't do the necessary checks, go with pharmacies that do the necessary checks, are willing to lie and trick to get it, it's on you, not the medication. Adults should be responsible and take accountability for their actions.

People are being asked to do this by my provider now - also when there medication is reviewed. I think because people were trying to cheat with clothed photos! Just stomach from the front and side though - no rude bits haha!

88 weeks is not long-term.

Yes it is. And it's only one of the trials. Stop chatting shit.