To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

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I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

How many cancers are attributed to obesity?
Yup, absolutely loads
Biggest cause of cancer after smoking
But don't let scientific facts get on the way of your misinformation!

@CoffeeAndATwix you're quoting a US source, where they have different rules, processes, guidelines, prescribing practices and legal context. In the UK it is accepted by all relevant bodies that there is no increased risk of thyroid cancer.

Ok you need to link to that, I’m on it and it doesn’t say that, and edited to add never mind a high chance of it.

what nonsense . Why are folks posting made up stuff, it’s going to be rolled out widely on thr nhs, the leaflet says high chance of cancer, so I threw it away, it’s so cringe,

I don't doubt the honesty of her story. I think what the poster and people like her should conclude and preach isn't that WL medication is bad news but to be honest about getting prescription for this medication, get yourself thoroughly informed about it to make the best decision about the medication and wait till you're completely sure you want to go through with it even if it involves numerous consultations with a qualified medical professional.

"WL jabs are bad" is a completely invalid and quite silly conclusion from her experience and obvious terrible/careless decision-making.

This is the problem with people who're anti WLJ. They're rarely people who know what they're talking about and are usually people who're willing to be fraudulent to get it or know frauds who get it fraudulently.

See my above post. That's what I think you should say instead after your story. I'm criticising you for your odd conclusion, not your story per se even though I am also shaking my head at you for your carelessness with this medication.

Even so, on a societal and NHS level, obesity is a far bigger problem than AN and BN

The needs of those individuals don't trump people who are treated by the weight loss injectibles

The medication must be available to those with obesity despite some people fraudulently obtaining it, whatever their motivation

In the same way no one suggests morphine shouldn't be avy because some people abuse it to their own detriment

Typo
'available'

LOL - have you read the side effects listed in paracetamol leaflets? (See attached).

The warnings on Mounjaro are based on the fact that tumours were observed in rat studies. They, on a cautionary basis, bar people with a family history of thyroid tumours from taking it but lots of recent research (see numerous articles including one in Forbes in April 2024 Forbes) have clarified that this effect has not been observed in human subjects - and that there is deemed to be little to no risk. Those of us with thyroid disorders are all allowed to take it and do so quite happily. In fact my thyroid replacement medications have been reduced in dose after my 6st weight loss.

That said, perhaps we should all avoid paracetamol because those side effects seem pretty scary…

This. ^ I agree.

I know some people can't stand it that other people are slating their precious 'miracle' weight loss injections, but the fact is, some people really don't think it's a good idea to be pumping stuff into your veins to help you lose weight. Stuff that you do NOT know the long term affects of!

I'm in my 50s and I've struggled with my weight since I was about 14. I've been between 9 stone and 16 stone and currently am probably about 11 and a half stone. I could get these injections if I wanted to, as I can afford it, (so I'm not 'jealous' FFS!) 😆 But I would never in a million years consider sticking this stuff into my veins to lose weight. And I also think it's sad that people are doing it.

I'm quite entitled to say that and to think it's a bad idea to do it. (And to feel worried that so many people - women mostly - think it's a good idea to be taking these injections.) I'm not apologising for my opinions and thoughts, and nor am I changing them ... It's like I would never in a million years have bariatric surgery or liposuction, or any kind of plastic surgery or botox to try to look younger.

I just don't agree with people having injections to lose weight. I'm not going to change my mind about it. And I am entitled to my opinions. Even if some people don't like them.

I think as the quoted pp said, it's a real sad state of affairs that people are injecting themselves with some random stuff that they do not know the long-term effects of to lose weight, when you really, really can lose it if you eat healthier and exercise more ... YES you can regain it and often do, but you will if you stop taking these injections too. I am exasperated to see that several posters have said that they will be using these weight loss drugs their whole life if necessary. Really..........?!

I just can't get my head around why anyone would want to do this!

That's it, I'm done on this thread! No point in arguing back and forth with a bunch of people who have had their head turned by this 'miracle' weight loss injection!

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You do realise that you actually have to eat less than you need to lose weight even on the meds. The medication is taken one day a week, so it's not possible to "not take it" at the weekend! You can still choose to eat takeaways - it's not a magic drug - if you eat too much you will still put on weight.

That's it, I'm done on this thread.

You always say something like this on every WL thread but still pop around the next one with the same ignorant take, then tell us you're flouncing. I can't tell why.

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway thank goodness you're flouncing. Your comments are devoid of any facts or reasoning about this topic.

"Random stuff" is hilarious,

Anyway, I'm still waiting for the "this is a quick fix" brigade to tell us what other quick fixes they're against besides the WLJ and if the quick fixes/shortcuts they use in their lives for daily and often mundane tasks don't count. There's always crickets or deliberate sidestepping and deflecting when you've put that point across.

Some people think the earth is flat and yes, they are entitled to their opinion, but most of us follow the science...

That poster obviously loves attention and to be contrary so bad, it's hilarious at this point. Nothing gets through to them with the countless WLJ thread they've been on and announced they're flouncing from.

I didn't even read most of the post because i saw the name. I just skimmed and got to the last bit and laughed. As usual.

Its subcut, no one is injecting anything into their veins.

Its not just a weight loss injection, it stabilises blood sugars and allows receptors for the GLP1 hormone to work.

Its been around for 20 years, its not new.

No it isn't. I lost 5 stone last year on keto. My blood tests suggest that all is well, and as I kept working out throughout (esp weights), I lost no lean muscle.

if people find weight loss injections helpful, all power to them. Keto is a very useful tool too, for those who prefer that route.

That’s ok, no one is going to force you to take it, and it’s lovely you could afford to. But you can stay overweight, there is no fat police who will march you down Asda and make you buy weight loss drugs,

and for those who are comfortable with this licenced. NHS approved drug,, we can take it, and get on with enjoying our lives, slim and happy,no more weight related health issues.

each to their own right,

I'm afraid this little tidbit of basic information is going to go in one way and out another way for this poster and many like them. They'll be along shortly on the next thread like this to spout the same bs and decide they won't change their minds no matter what you say. It's a waste of time I'm afraid. They don't care.

It is quite bizarre that this poster is on all the injection threads. @LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway why are you doing this to yourself??

For those concerned about side effects. I researched this medication for 6 months before i made the decision to buy, i researched the science, effectiveness and side effects. I also work as an A&E nurse, and during that 6 months, i monitored, not thoroughly, or scientifically, just kept an eye on, people who came in to the department as a direct result of WLI. 1 person i came across, and it wasnt mounjaro related.

Incidentally, I would need both hands and both feet to count how many people are admitted weekly with weight related or type 2 diabetes complications.

Funny that.

don’t shame him at all. I’m not skinny either, borderline overweight. He doesn’t have ‘a physical make up that makes eating a physical need’. You’re medicalising something for whatever reason. He knows he eats too much, admits he kids himself. Doesn’t say I had a traumatic childhood, am depressed etc. He knows he likes food, that’s it.

Actually no. Look at the statistics for the percentage of obese people who lose weight and succeed in keeping it off long term. How you get there makes no real difference.
To lose weight on the drugs you still need to eat differently and exercise - sadly it doesn't just magically melt fat away. Your diet ultimately would be no different to many diets - you just get less impact from the hormone deficiency that makes you permanently starving and more likely to fail.

@Leniriefenstahl did he have a traumatic childhood and is he depressed?

You don't have to send body photos.