Page 19 | To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

Pineconecollector · 2024-10-23T08:58:14+00:00

I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy? I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

Leniriefenstahl · 23/10/2024 16:04

Daisymay11 · 23/10/2024 15:41

What the f are u on about .
Have you any first hand experience of using them as an easy diet ..
Because if not ,your opinion is worthless
I'm using them currently
Believe me ,it is no easy ride or magic wand .
Literally all it does to help me ,is it stops me thinking about food 24/7
I still get hungry
I still have to buy ,plan and eat 3 balanced calorie counted meals
And it's costing me money I don't have
If I go over my calories,I don't loose weight
It's slightly taken the edge of me wanting to stuff my face with food all f ing day.
So it's just leveling the playing field to those who don't feel the urge to stuff their face all day
To get it
I had to send in my weight,my BMI and my , measurements
I then had to send 3 photos of myself from different angles and give them permission to contact my doctor.
It's highly unlikely someone will a lower BMI is going to get these injections.
Chill , though ,it doesn't effect you ,so don't worry about it

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Oh come on, it’s much easier with these drugs. Many of us think about food the whole time. I eat normal healthy food, I put a few pounds on at the drop of a hat. I have to walk at least 10k steps a day to maintain my current weight, I rarely have chocolate or cake even though I love them. I have massive guilt about overindulging because I put weight so easily. I think you’re over egging your toxic relationship with food tbh. Many of us have it too.

TodayandThursday · 23/10/2024 16:06

@soupfiend yes I thought the culling of posts was strange too!

But the post that had an outright lie was kept!!!

Itsmahoneybaloney · 23/10/2024 16:06

Leniriefenstahl · 23/10/2024 16:04

Oh come on, it’s much easier with these drugs. Many of us think about food the whole time. I eat normal healthy food, I put a few pounds on at the drop of a hat. I have to walk at least 10k steps a day to maintain my current weight, I rarely have chocolate or cake even though I love them. I have massive guilt about overindulging because I put weight so easily. I think you’re over egging your toxic relationship with food tbh. Many of us have it too.

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Good for you. Just to say - we're all different. We can't all do 10k steps a day and we can't all say no to cake etc without a bit of help (which the drugs do) why does any of this even effect you??

Daisymay11 · 23/10/2024 16:06

Leniriefenstahl · 23/10/2024 16:04

Oh come on, it’s much easier with these drugs. Many of us think about food the whole time. I eat normal healthy food, I put a few pounds on at the drop of a hat. I have to walk at least 10k steps a day to maintain my current weight, I rarely have chocolate or cake even though I love them. I have massive guilt about overindulging because I put weight so easily. I think you’re over egging your toxic relationship with food tbh. Many of us have it too.

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Are you currently using these drugs
If your not ,crack on with your life and stop spouting crap on a subject you know nothing about

Bibulous · 23/10/2024 16:07

I think you’re over egging your toxic relationship with food tbh

Would you look at someone with long term depression and think that as you've had down days then their experiences are the same as yours?

Searchingforthelight · 23/10/2024 16:08

This is the crux of the matter
Some people know little about addition, the reward system, compulsions let alone about lepton, ghrelin and GLP-1 etc

No doubt when they get hypertension they'll want treatment for it, but god forbid otherwise with a condition (that they clearly now nothing about) get treatment

They should practice some self reflection. Why do they object to obesity being treated, to fatties becoming normal weight. What is it that they don't like about this? That's a very interesting question, I think

SwingTheMonkey · 23/10/2024 16:08

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 13:57

@poisongreen yes they have!!!

Oh my days. It's like people will find anything to whinge about. These drugs have been in use for decades. Every single researcher is excited by them because they have nothing but good effects on the body. Yet a few on MN think they know more?

It amazing how many specialists there are on this thread, isn’t it?

Searchingforthelight · 23/10/2024 16:09

Daisymay11 · 23/10/2024 16:02

Would you have such little sympathy for an alcoholic or drug addict trying to stop ? Because it's the same
Addiction is addiction, regardless of what you are addicted to .
Have you no sympathy or understanding for your fellow man ,who struggles more than you ????

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Bibulous · 23/10/2024 16:09

It's because we're taking the "easy" way out. Or, in other words, we're not suffering enough.

Pinkbendyman · 23/10/2024 16:11

wheo · 23/10/2024 13:26

I've gotten them on the black market for £100 a month. Lost nearly a stone in 6 weeks, I'm absolutely thrilled.

I have severe bulimia and struggled with food noise for as long as I can remember. I really don't care what I'm doing as I think it's levelling the playing field.

People who take issue with it are jealous IMO

I’m genuinely curious as to why you bought it ‘on the black market’ as opposed to via an online pharmacy?

Also, are you receiving any specialist medical help for your bulimia?

I’m not in any way being critical, just concerned.

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 16:12

@Leniriefenstahl who cares if it's easy? Life is short, it doesn't have to be difficult

JohnTheRevelator · 23/10/2024 16:15

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 10:02

YABU.

There is nothing wrong with the jabs. People who use them in an inappropriate manner are the issue.

I'm on them. I still get hungry, I still exercise willpower and I still have to watch what I eat and how much I exercise. But it's just made everything a touch easier for me.

I agree. Without them I'm certain that I would not have been able to lose a stone in a month. I lost 7 stone without weight loss injections but got stuck at 14 stone for a year. I'm now on my way to my target of 10 stone. I have a suspicion that people who critisise them are taking the moral high ground of 'Its cheating! You got yourself in this state with your gluttony,why should you have any help to lose the weight?' You're a fatty so you should suffer!'.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 23/10/2024 16:16

jabbaf · 23/10/2024 10:06

I agree, a bad idea. They restrict people's appetites, so the only long term solution is to have these injections for life? Because as soon as you stop and your normal appetite resumes, you'll gain all the weight back? It's not addressing the reasons for overeating and it's not teaching healthier eating/exercise etc

100% this.

@Pineconecollector YANBU. Weight loss injections are a terrible idea IMO, and I think it's desperately worrying that so many people (women mostly!) are being lead to believe that they are a wonder drug that will fix their weight issues/issues with food, and that they will live a 'happy ever after' life, where they will be forever slim!

The people defending them are coming across (to me) like they're part of a big cult, with the way they've been brainwashed into believing that it's a good idea to have these weight loss injections.

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Kephia · 23/10/2024 16:17

MakeMeATea · 23/10/2024 15:07

Hey if you want to keep excusing your lack of willpower and self control and blaming it on a compulsion, rather than doing the hard thing like everyone else who's lost weight you do you.
Take the easy way out then.

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You sounds like the kind of bright spark who thinks people with anorexia should 'just eat more,' and people with depression should probably just cheer up a bit.

Not sure what's wrong with doing anything the easy way either.

Daisymay11 · 23/10/2024 16:17

Pinkbendyman · 23/10/2024 16:11

I’m genuinely curious as to why you bought it ‘on the black market’ as opposed to via an online pharmacy?

Also, are you receiving any specialist medical help for your bulimia?

I’m not in any way being critical, just concerned.

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Trying to quote the quote you quoted .
Your not meant to have these drugs if you have bulimia,it was one of the questions..
The problem with getting it on the black market,is there could be anything in it .
It could be diluted with cheaper dangerous drugs .

Highly irresponsible to buy of the black market
Money would be better spent on counselling for bulimia.
Assuming the poster saying she is buying of the black market is being honest

Thommasina · 23/10/2024 16:18

brewmetea · 23/10/2024 15:49

My one caveat to people using the injection would be do not use the meds to push your weight loss to the max in the shortest possible time. I work in aesthetics and in the past year or so we have had so many women come in looking for help with their faces and necks post weight loss, we’ve never seen anything like it and almost without fail they are all using the jabs. It isn’t the jab doing it but the rapid weight loss in enables. This women in their 30s onwards going in with loose skin on their necks and facial volume loss that we really can’t fix. Our advise of to leave it a year to see how much the skin recovers then to assess and decide if any tweakments can help or if it’s a surgery only situation. Going slower with weight loss and having good nutrition and exercise does make a difference to how your face and neck copes with weight loss so if you care about your face then go slow even with the medications.

This is what my aesthetician said as well. I suppose it's the same with any rapid weight loss, but my work colleague has lost 5 stone in 6 months and has deep lines from her nose to chin and a very wrinkled neck. She's planning a face lift!

itwasnevermine · 23/10/2024 16:18

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway good to see you again.

Have you got any sources for your claims yet?

SilenceInside · 23/10/2024 16:20

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway why are you desperately worried? What are you desperately worried about on my behalf?

Alifemoreordinary123 · 23/10/2024 16:20

They are much better than the CVD risk soooo many people are living with and the impact this has one healthcare services that we’re all spending our taxes on. There are considerations in terms of how people come off, and there may also be some people that don’t come off, but the spend and side effects are probably less than they would be without it.

wellIguessitwouldberice · 23/10/2024 16:20

AnonymousBleep · 23/10/2024 11:11

I think they need to be tightly controlled. The temptation to use them to get from a size 10 to a size 6 (or smaller) will be very strong for a lot of women, and they're easy enough to get hold of so long as you're prepared to pay. I just don't want my teenage daughter and her friends thinking that you can use drugs to turn yourself into whatever is looking hot on TikTok right now, and there's loads of pressure (social media and peer pressure) on young girls to be 'hot' which still means being skinny.

I get your point that it’s not supposed to be used by people with a normal BMI. But I’m wondering what is the risk of taking it to get from a 10 to a 6? Genuine question if anyone knows.

doodleschnoodle · 23/10/2024 16:24

The good news is that weight loss is only the tip of the iceberg. These drugs are being studied for a whole range of stuff, including reducing the risk of heart attacks, kidney disease and strokes in healthy BMI people, reducing the risk of some cancers, reducing the effects of some brain disorders, a potential treatment for fatty liver disease, sleep apnea. Very exciting medications for a whole range of people.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 23/10/2024 16:26

Pinkbendyman · 23/10/2024 16:11

I’m genuinely curious as to why you bought it ‘on the black market’ as opposed to via an online pharmacy?

Also, are you receiving any specialist medical help for your bulimia?

I’m not in any way being critical, just concerned.

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Yeah I wondered that too. As the OP said, there appears to be some people using them who don't need to lose weight. I have recently heard about some women using them when they're not even overweight. One was like 5 ft 5 - and 9 and a half stone - and a size 10. But she wanted to lose a stone to a stone and a half, and get to a size 6.

I mean, WTAF? These injections are not being policed, and it's terrifying. It's a ticking time bomb IMO.

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Daisymay11 · 23/10/2024 16:26

doodleschnoodle · 23/10/2024 16:24

The good news is that weight loss is only the tip of the iceberg. These drugs are being studied for a whole range of stuff, including reducing the risk of heart attacks, kidney disease and strokes in healthy BMI people, reducing the risk of some cancers, reducing the effects of some brain disorders, a potential treatment for fatty liver disease, sleep apnea. Very exciting medications for a whole range of people.

I was just going to type something similar
You saved me the bother

Thommasina · 23/10/2024 16:27

wellIguessitwouldberice · 23/10/2024 16:20

I get your point that it’s not supposed to be used by people with a normal BMI. But I’m wondering what is the risk of taking it to get from a 10 to a 6? Genuine question if anyone knows.

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I think if you are bimbling along happily at a healthy bmi at a size 10 that would be perfect wouldn't it? Especially for teens. If they are a healthy weight size 10, why encourage a mindset where they can risk side effects to get to just above the underweight category?

If adult women want to do it, and lots do, that's sad but on them.

JaceLancs · 23/10/2024 16:27

People who don’t experience food noise have no idea - I think about food or drink most of the time
I also have many food intolerances and due to IBD am currently following a FODMAP diet, many of the few things I can eat are making me gain weight as I can’t fill up on salad, fruit or vegetables, a lot of GF and dairy free foods aren’t that nice or healthy - so I end up eating too much of the few things I can have
I’ve not tried weight loss injections although did lose weight on SW a few years ago - I have put quite a lot back on but over a period of 5 years
If it was possible to flick a switch and never have to think about food, shop for it, cook it etc I would be there in an instant
I found it much easier to give up smoking as it was best to go cold turkey and eventually the cravings went and I never even think about it now (over 20 years a non smoker) but the food cravings are always there
I manage to overcome a lot of them with willpower numerous times a day otherwise I would be an awful lot fatter than I am
However this is not easy and is a constant struggle that I could do without as an extra burden in my already stressful life