King charles Heckled in Australia

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Did anyone see that King Charles was heckled in Australia this week by an Australian senator, Lidia Thorpe.

She shouted at him "you are not my King, this is not your land, you have stolen our land".

Any thoughts?

I didn't see any thread on it, so I started this one.

You have a flippant dismissive excuse for everything...

After centuries of it being physically beaten out of them?

Thats not how inter generational trauma works.

The Irish could fight back by lobbying and influencing and electing politicians who would give Northern Ireland back to the Republic, as long as the people of NI agreed with that. As far as I'm aware, the majority of the people there don't want to be part of the Republic. Again, it's a small minority who have chips on their shoulders about the past.

You seem OK with the Irish blowing up English people who had nothing to do with the history between Britain and Ireland, instead of effecting change via politics. And that's where your line of thinking leads - to continued bloodshed down the generations because of the past. You want to talk about disgusting....

Youre a liar. Which everyone can see.

Dont put words in my mouth. Where did I say that i was ok with the irish blowing up English people.

If you read back, I said that their actions of the IRA were wrong.

Those were my exact words. You can't twist my words to suit yourself.

Many nations were involved in the slave trade, and Britain was involved for 300 years, so the people that ended it weren't the people who started it. And of all the countries that were involved, it was Britain who did the most to end it, and did it first.

@noisydenimshaker i can't understand your point of view at all.

It's kind of a "who cares what the UK did in the past, fuck them all" attitude.

It's an immature defensive attitude.

You also said, "Did you think the Irish weren't going to fight back?" which sounds like you're condoning Irish violence against people today for the sins of 100-200 years ago. Actually no, I don't "expect" the IRA to "fight back" by blowing up people in 1984 for something that happened in 1801.

@noisydenimshaker what about what the UK did to India?

I already said that what Britain did in the past was terrible. But no one alive today was responsible, and I don't get this thing about living in the past. The only reason to do so is to use it as a stick the beat modern Britain with.

For something that happened in 1801? Are you serious. Another flippant nasty answer. Do you know your history at all?

Ireland were controlled by the UK well into the 1900s,

not the 1800s.

Read your history. The Republic of Ireland got free from the UK last century, in the 1900s, not the 1800s.

I've already told you why - because it's history. How about people focus on where we are today and making the world a better place from here?

You don't need to personally apologise though do you.

The UK government and the royal family do.

It would help the whole world.

We are still waiting though

Tell the Sinn Fein PR guy to read his history. He cited the 1801 act as one of the reasons for the IRA's bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton. The 40th anniversary has just passed, and the Beeb has done a new documentary on it. It's available on BBC iplayer, if you have access to it.

But People don't just get over genocide if it happened to them in history. It leaves an impact .

I have a Jewish friend. Her and her family still talk about the holocaust, as it was very important to them, even though it happened nearly one hundred years ago.

Right. Well the IRA were obviously wrong to do what they did. And I don't condone it.

The same as when the British army shot innocent people in Northern Ireland on the street.

None of it was right.

Loss of life is never right.

For all we know, Charles might want to apologise. But he has to do what the Prime Minister says. I suppose William will be similarly bound. So I think people should blame the government instead of yelling at Charles. There is literally nothing he can do about it.

Well he could do a few things though.

Like when the German prime minister went to visit Poland, and apologised for his country's past actions. It was nice and appropriate.

Charles could have mentioned a few things about people's suffering in Australia, while he was there

The Holocaust is still in living memory and actually does affect people of today, unlike the potato famine of the 1850s.

Well, maybe all countries should just issue massive apologies to all the countries they've wronged, and then we can all move on.

Well, at least we can agree on that.

Maybe William will do it. Perhaps Charles is just too old to think that way.

I don't know. It's quite possible that there were some incredible minds in Ireland that didn't get to blossom because of poverty, yes.

The Irish have contributed some incredible writers to the world though.

Yeah only once it used slavery to build and immeasurably enrich its empire. Give over.

I think there is a law against that give people have been arrested for silent prayer.

It's terrible but it's in the past.