To hope that Donald Trump doesn’t win the election

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….it’s getting closer.
I was hoping that Kamala would be a shoo-in for the presidency, but looking at the betting odds, I’m feeling quite pessimistic.
It’s incomprehensible to me that a convicted felon, racist, rapist, liar and misogynist who spurred on an insurrection - after everything that’s happened - is running for office again and may very well win.
It’s comforting to read though that fellow Brits DON’T support him.
Apart from Reform. Obviously.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50752-who-did-britons-want-to-win-the-2024-us-presidential-election

It's worth reading the book. It explains a lot of things you are asking about.

One of the valid reasons to dislike him is presumably that he lies constantly? In which case, you might want to think about the fact he's lying about that?

This is pretty comprehensive
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/22/us/politics/project-2025-trump-heritage-foundation.html?ogrp=ctr&unlocked_article_code=1.VU4.Tme7.lWWkiztGpkpV&smid=url-share

Are you seriously suggesting that someone on 100k shouldn’t have a better standard of living than someone earning 20k?

In many ways that is the crux of the problem. If the differential between the standard of living you have at 20k and 100k isn’t significant enough then many people simply won’t bother earning more.

People at all levels of income need to be incentivised to try and earn more. The current system fails to that in many instances.

Of course I'm not suggesting that. You currently have a much better standard of living than someone earning £20,000 and I'm not suggesting that you should pay more income tax than you are already. I'm saying that the person earning £20,000 shouldn't be taxed more, which is what you are suggesting.

Dementia. He used to just be a narcissistic idiot. Now he's a narcissistic idiot who needs to be in a memory care facility. He's absolutely not fit for public office of any kind. Anybody who thinks somebody who babbles like a lunatic and spends 40 minutes of a town hall dancing to his Spotify list should be President could also use a mental health check-up.

Amongst other things - if he wins I will have a lot of empathy with those Democratic world leaders who may have to interract with him. Total cringe fest.

Yes. Who can forget this. Trump pushing aside the PM of Montenegro at NATO

He has the manners of a truculent 3 year old that no other kids want to play with.

No. They won't need to. Because they'll win... 🤦‍♀️

Whatever happens, I wish the people of the US good luck. They're gonna need it.

So embarrassing 🙈

This would be funny if it wasn't for the subject matter.

Amazing a country run by a bunch of loony tunes, he is horrible lowest if the low, come on he wants to become a dictator, he worships them not your God, he is most like the devil in disguise , he has a distaste of invalids, people of colour, women and Lbgt community's. HE IS A VERY DANGEROUS MAN .

As long as you keep an open mind about things 🤣

There's a Trump rally going on right now at Madison Square Garden. It's all a bit reminiscent of the Nazi Rally that was held in MSG in 1939.

A comedian called Tony Hinchcliffe just told this joke:

'There's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.'

There are 1 million Puerto Ricans in New York and 1.1 million Puerto Ricans in Florida. Let's hope they all hear this and remember it when they vote.

@saltinesandcoffeecups well @Brinny 's not wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️

@thepariscrimefiles let's hope 🤞

And that Hinchcliffe man said even worse about Latinos. It's so bad I honestly do not want to repeat it.

Another man speaking actually said 'this is the first time I've been asked to speak at a Nazi rally'

Those on the fence need to look and listen.

I have an open mind those voting or worshipping Trump have tunnel vision and are delusional 😶😂

A weird dangerous organisation, let's hope 🙏 people turn their backs on this vitriol foul mouthed idiot and the clowns he endorses, a clown makes you laugh these clowns are not funny ,insulting yes by degrees.😡

Yes, it was disgusting. None of the jokes are funny though. The audience is cheering at the racism and spite but they're not really laughing.

Someone reporting from outside the venue said there is a very menacing atmosphere. It's just a hate fest directed at minorities and Democrats.

From the BBC overage

The speakers so far have adopted a range of tones and shared several different ideas and anecdotes, but some of the dark commentary that I’ve heard this afternoon - including jokes that border on or cross into outright racism - is quite notable.

He's not passionate about the US or Americans. His only passion is himself.

Well it says it all, hate, disgusting humiliating jokes the Trump supporters think are worth a laugh, they are whipping the racism taunt, are they hoping for civil unrest,if he wins the last one out turn the light switch to off, who would want to live in a country that hates people who are different in looks ,ability, sexuality and relugion , no disrespect but are the American citizens relising they are dealing with a nazi activist .

Jesus wept. Noones suggesting that at all. Just that you can afford a higher rate of tax.

"People at all levels of income need to be incentivised to try to earn more"

I am not sure if that's even true anyway. It is good to incentivize wealth creators, innovators etc. But if everyone is trying to earn more that means no-one is working as a care assistant, garbage collector, food processing worker, nurse etc etc. Maybe those jobs should be better paid, but realistically some jobs will always pay more than others, and how much jobs pay doesn't depend on how important they are. We could make it so all jobs pay the same or the government could mandate wages for different sectors but that would be actual communism. So actually, I don't want the nurse looking after my sick mother to be so incentivized to earn more that she leaves to become a silicon valley tech bro. I would rather she stayed to look after my sick mum and that requires her being able to afford a decent home, with decent education for her children, a decent retirement plan etc. She might not have chosen a career that lets her buy a Tesla, but she shouldn't be punished for that altruism by worrying about how she pays the electric bills. I also don't want the only people doing those jobs to be people that are incapable of doing anything else.