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AIBU?

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About DD's name

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user873628 · 20/10/2024 17:21

DH and I have a 9 month old DD. We chose the name Lottie for her, but wanted her to have a formal name so her BC is Charlotte. We always intended to call her Lottie and never call her Charlotte. When she is bigger she may choose to go by Charlotte/Charlie but for now she is definitely Lottie.

In laws hate the name Lottie and always have. They say it sounds like a Victorian servant and is ridiculous and refuse to use it. I find this rude, DH doesn't. In laws do a lot to help us out and are kind people at heart but there is a lot of history between us. Won't go in to what but it's important for the sake of this thread as a small issue ('please call her Lottie') could descend in to absolute chaos quite quickly.

DD is at the age where she should be learning her name, and so I've asked DH to ask in-laws to call her Lottie whilst she is learning it, so as not to confuse her, particularly when they have her for an hour or two without us. DH said he would but they've just come to take her out and repeatedly called her Charlotte and DH said absolutely nothing. I've asked him why now that they've left and he said it's going to cause a huge issue and he doesn't want to get involved. AIBU to want her called by the name we use at the moment?

Just to add, I have no issue with them using Charlotte when she's bigger, but right now she is learning her name and I want to avoid confusion.

OP posts:
user873628 · 20/10/2024 18:31

thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 18:29

Aren't you concerned that the decision to have Charlotte on the birth certificate was your DH's when you wanted Lottie on there and that he is not asking his parents to stop calling her Charlotte which they are deliberately doing against your wishes?

To be honest yes, but that's a whole other thread I think.

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Notreat · 20/10/2024 18:31

BibbityBobbityToo · 20/10/2024 18:02

I would ignore it but when they ask 'How's Charlotte' just keep asking 'Who?' in the most annoying way.

Do some passive agressive high pitched baby talk "Oh Lottie, silly old Grandma keeps forgetting your name doesn't she? Yes, she does, what a sillybilly Grandma is.. maybe silly old Grandma has been on the sherry "

But her name is Charlotte so surely it's better for her to get used to that now than when she is asked at some time in the future to give her formal name. Telling her that her grandparents don't know her name when they are calling her by her actual name would be much more confusing for her

ShillyShallySherbet · 20/10/2024 18:32

user873628 · 20/10/2024 18:30

It isn't free childcare!! They see her for an hour or so a few times a week when it suits them (they always ask, I never do). We pay for full time childcare at nursery.

Well if you’re there when they are looking after her then just keep correcting them.

Posithor · 20/10/2024 18:32

I'd really not worry about it my 2 year old goes by Spidey, Spiderman, gecko, around 7 variations of his actual name and the different ways my family (English) and my husband's family (not English) say it.
Im 7m pregnant and occasionally call him by his father or sisters name as well...

housethatbuiltme · 20/10/2024 18:32

My DD has a different nickname from basically everyone she knows.

Example: Say her name is Dierdre but she gets Dee, Didi, Dido, Deely, Deer, Dearie, Didum, Devil, Dilly, Dids, Deeda, Dre, Bibi etc... some of them have literally nothing to do with her name really. She just started school and still proudly introduces herself to everyone by her full name when someone asks despite literally everyone (even her teachers) calling her by different pet/nick names all the time.

Shes not confused at all about who she is, I think its kind of cool that as she ages she will have so many options to shape her own style though.

BunnyLake · 20/10/2024 18:32

Year’s ago when I was at primary my friend’s brother went by two completely different names. Think something like Michael and Jamie. It was unusual and I’ve no idea why so sometimes I’d call him by one name and sometimes the other.

Needmorelego · 20/10/2024 18:33

@user873628 to be honest I would laugh it off and just let them do it.
Your daughter won't get confused if everyone else calls her Lottie. I assume her nursery already does. When she starts school there will be a bit on the form for "Known As" and her peg label etc will have Lottie on it.
Loads of people have an "official" name and no one usually ever thinks anything odd about it if they say "actually everyone calls me Jimmy not James".

Brieandcamembert · 20/10/2024 18:33

I thinkbthey are being disrespectful to your choice BUT a lot of people don't like nicknames, preferring formal names.

We have an Indiana, she's indi to us and Indiana to family. Mixed at pre school, some imitate us, some use her formal name. She answers to Scout too as she's a fearless risk taker!

Cattyisbatty · 20/10/2024 18:33

We had loads of nicknames for our DC as babies, plus DS has the sort of name - like Charlotte - that has many permutations. I do remember getting a bit uppity w the ILs as they called him the long version when we preferred the diminutive. In the end when he was about 2.5 he turned to me and told me the name he preferred and it’s been that way ever since. Occasionally I’ll call him by his full name - when he’s annoying me 😂but never the name we preferred when he was born.
What I’m trying to say is what seems like a big deal when they’re a baby ends up not being a big deal when they’re older.

Dotto · 20/10/2024 18:33

Yeah, sorry, if you didn't want people to call her Charlotte, you shouldn't have called her Charlotte. You don't really have a leg to stand on, unless you change her birth certificate.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 18:34

user873628 · 20/10/2024 18:21

He appreciated my concern that it would confuse her (although PPs have assured me it won't so that's now a non-issue) but doesn't like to potentially upset his parents. It wouldn't be a "mum, please just call her Lottie", but a huge tear-inducing row, apparently. I don't see why it would cause such issues but there have been other things that I saw as small issues which apparently are huge, world-ended atrocities so I clearly just don't understand them.

Don't let then bully you on this, just because your PILs will make a huge tearful scene if they are not getting their own way. She is your child, not their's.

Nearlyamumoftwo · 20/10/2024 18:34

@user873628

I suspect if it was your parents who wanted to call her Charlotte and not Lottie you wouldn't be as upset 😉 also, I think if it was your parents, you wouldn't want to fall out with them over something like this, the same way your husband doesn't. You're happy to get cross with them because any sort of damage isn't as important.

YABVU- she absolutely will not get confused and it's a shame you're using this as an excuse

You shouldn't have given her a name which can have many variations.

Mirabai · 20/10/2024 18:34

user873628 · 20/10/2024 17:48

Thanks for the perspectives! It's good to know she is unlikely to get confused- that was my main concern.

I'm more pissed off with DH than with them refusing to use Lottie, although I do think their comments about the name have been rude.

For those asking, no, I don't like Charlotte at all. DH and I have very different taste in names and Lottie was a huge compromise from me at nearly 6 weeks old when we had to pick something. It was the only one we could sort of agree on.

Well that’s the real problem then isn’t it. Why did you call your DD a name you don’t like?

You should have held out for something you liked instead of caving.

whatsthatwordagainfeet · 20/10/2024 18:34

Duckmamahere · 20/10/2024 17:32

I might be the only one here who thinks YABU.

Her name is Charlotte according to her birth certificate

PIL’s are calling her the name you gave her and you have an issue

Lottie is a lovely name if you wanted to call her that, should of named her that

It is a nice nickname but it might be good for her to learn both.

I agree, her name IS Charlotte so I don’t really see the issue.

Jammedchakra · 20/10/2024 18:34

My DH godchild is Lottie. She is currently studying her PhD in a neuroscience at a world renowned uni… Victorian chambermaid name or not 😂

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 20/10/2024 18:35

Just let it go. Officially her name is Charlotte and all her life there will be some people who call her that. Officially naming her Lottie would have been safer if you hate her being called anything else.
Children often have nicknames from a young age and they respond to all of them quite happily. If Lottie gets fed up with it when she's older, she'll soon say which name she prefers.

Mumofoneandone · 20/10/2024 18:36

Too outing to use actual name but DS has a traditional first name but is always known by a more unusual nickname. Which is a name in it's own right anyway. (We do have some family pet names for him too.....)
He loves his nickname and it really suits him. If anyone calls he by his full name, he corrects them.
I'm always known by my middle name, so I understand the official name v everyday name but it's fine!
Obviously it is tough for you to have been forced to put one name on the birth certificate (which you don't like) whilst actually wanting to use the pet name version. Think it's such a shame and you maybe able to change it in time but just reinforce that she is known as Lottie. The PIL should respect your choice of name.

BunnyLake · 20/10/2024 18:36

Charlotte is a beautiful name. My son has always been known by his diminutive but if his GP had wanted to use his full name it wouldn’t have been an issue at all.

Kinneddar · 20/10/2024 18:36

They're potentially doing you a favour. Other people will call her Charlotte too, she might as well get used to being called both from the start

thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 18:36

Gamechangers · 20/10/2024 18:25

If there's a lot of hurt, go LC or NC and get paid childcare. You can't really get free childcare and dictate much to them really. I can totally see why this is not a hill your dh wants to die on. Probably doesn't want to risk all that money you're both saving from getting free childcare from them and/or upsetting them just because you are hung up on what they call your dd (which actually happens to be her legal name). I suspect the issue is not really the name. You probably feel a lot of resentment due to the past, and your dd's name is just the bone you've picked to fight for. You need to either get paid childcare or move on.

Edited

OP has said they don't do child care. They see her for an hour a couple of times a week.

RandomMess · 20/10/2024 18:36

Lottie will put them right on her name once she's older.

Sounds like DH doesn't stand up to his parents and that is why he wouldn't discuss names or compromise with you.

Gamechangers · 20/10/2024 18:37

user873628 · 20/10/2024 18:27

I'd love to go LC but DH doesn't and so I try my best to keep the peace for his sake. They don't do childcare, we pay for it full time.

Fair enough. But they are calling her by her proper/legal name though. Even you and DH didn't want 'Lottie' to be her legal name! You could have if you wanted to, but you didn't. It does come across as if you are being awkward. Her name is Charlotte and so she'll be learning her correct name. It'll be you and DH who are confusing her by calling her Lottie, if anything, but little children get used to being called all sorts of names and nicknames, so I am sure she won't get confused. She's only 9 months, you'll probably have a lot of issues to deal with in future, I'd pick my battles if I were you.

Needmorelego · 20/10/2024 18:39

@MrsSunshine2b by the time she is old enough to have supply teachers she'll be old enough to say "I'm known as Lottie" and the supply teacher would most likely say "oh ok".
A girl in my daughter's primary class had an English name but also a traditional Chinese name - which was het name on the register. I was helping out with the class once and the teacher was a supply one. She read off the register the Chinese name and the whole class (30 little 7 years olds) simultaneously called out "no miss..... she's (English) name".

CharlotteLucas3 · 20/10/2024 18:39

Some ridiculous comments on here. What sort of people cause complete chaos over a simple request like this? Ask the people on the Stately Homes thread and they'll tell you! Her name is Lottie...they should get to decide. However, it'll turn into a huge drama so maybe just get her used to being called Charlotte by them.

It'll be fine...I was always known by my middle name and then I changed it. My family still use my middle name and everyone else uses my first name. I don't notice. I only notice when someone uses the name that they don't usually use!

ShillyShallySherbet · 20/10/2024 18:39

thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 18:36

OP has said they don't do child care. They see her for an hour a couple of times a week.

So I really don’t see the problem if they’re seeing her for such a short period of time. I also thought from the OP that they were looking after her while the parents were going out/to work and it’s a bugbear of mine when people moan about anything grandparents do when they’re so generous with their time to look after their grandchildren.