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Nursery incident. Ofsted?

180 replies

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 18:27

My DD nursery has dress up women’s fancy hats and shoes from charity shops. Today she was injured by hat pin that was left inside one. It was a large pin that secured a decoration on the hat. Would you report this to ofsted?

OP posts:
MrsSunshine2b · 18/10/2024 21:10

Glutenfreebread · 18/10/2024 19:39

If a child was injured with a sharp object like that at home and presented to a medical professional I would expect there would be some kind of contact from either a HV and/or SS for a quick follow up to make sure the home environment is safe, don’t see why this would be any different and you could argue that a nursery should actually be safer than a home !

That's a strange thing to expect! This was a pin. Maybe if they'd cut their finger half off with a kitchen knife they'd be concerned but certainly not by being scratched by a pin!

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 21:17

Absolutely pathetic that your first thought is to inform Ofsted.

TennisToday · 18/10/2024 21:19

My God if you think SS are interested in accidental hat pin pricks (!) you have NO idea what some poor children are suffering from in this world.

And no idea how busy social workers are!

BarbaraHoward · 18/10/2024 21:21

SofiaAmes · 18/10/2024 21:08

I would be much more concerned about them spreading lice by exchanging hats. My ds' nursery were doing this type of dress up and couldn't figure out why they kept having outbreaks of lice.

I thought it was a myth that lice can live on clothes and bedding?

Preschoolers stick their heads together all the time, lice outbreaks are to be expected.

GrumpyMiddleAgedCow · 18/10/2024 21:39

I’m sorry this happened to your daughter and hope she feels better soon but it was an accident and your reaction is WAYYYY over the top

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 18/10/2024 21:51

Honestly, would you have expected to find a hat pin?! I wouldn't have.

And no I wouldn't report to Ofsted, assuming they have followed all the protocol required and aren't trying to minimise it.

I am sorry your daughter was injured.

Jammedchakra · 18/10/2024 21:53

I’m a bit torn. If she had poked her eye and punctured it, what then? Oh sorry we missed it.
I would speak to the manager, it is a big oversight, but so niche I’m not sure it reflects too badly on them.
They definitely dodged a bullet though.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 18/10/2024 22:00

A Risk Assessment can't always prevent an injury, just shows what you've done to minimise them happening (or says why you can't do something)

Their RA will now likely be updated to reflect this incident

Unless you have had several "accidents" similar happen or they were dismissive then this is an accident, nothing more

Nazzywish · 18/10/2024 22:04

Well if its poked her eye and caused serious injury I can actually see why your angry op. But I'm not sure what the remedy is your looking for? If they're genuinely sorry and will check thoroughly from now on then you've reached the aim you wanted I guess?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2024 22:26

If you wanted to take it further than the nursery manger the correct response is the lado officer at the local authority. If she required hospital the nursery may have made that referral already

LampHat · 18/10/2024 22:26

What does the Hat Pins section of the Ofsted criteria say? Maybe be guided by that.

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 22:30

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 18/10/2024 20:39

You're joking, surely? They missed a tiny hat pin. Come on.

It wasn’t tiny, it was one of those long, thick ish ones

OP posts:
hockityponktas · 18/10/2024 22:32

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2024 22:26

If you wanted to take it further than the nursery manger the correct response is the lado officer at the local authority. If she required hospital the nursery may have made that referral already

I don’t believe this is appropriate for Lado? Lado is for concerns about a staff member, not health and safety.

NotSoHotMess24 · 18/10/2024 22:34

Why would you gain by reporting it?

sunonthetrees · 18/10/2024 22:34

as other have said - not a chance Ofsted will be interested! Make sure it’s fully recorded in the accident book and then forget about it (assuming this isn’t part of a pattern…)

Savingthehedgehogs · 18/10/2024 22:37

If she had lost an eye, yes.
Otherwise no.
I haven’t seen a hat pin in forty odd years! I doubt they even knew to look tbh!

Dearover · 18/10/2024 22:43

Have you applied to a new nursery yet? It's only a matter of time before you will need to. You should be working with the people who care for your DC, not creating a whole host of issues for them after a genuine mistake

EnfysHeulenEira · 18/10/2024 23:11

Absolutely ridiculous. Take her out and look after yourself op

Copperoliverbear · 18/10/2024 23:59

No

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/10/2024 07:31

SofiaAmes · 18/10/2024 21:08

I would be much more concerned about them spreading lice by exchanging hats. My ds' nursery were doing this type of dress up and couldn't figure out why they kept having outbreaks of lice.

That doesn't happen. Headlice walk from head to head. Dressing up clothes have always been a feature of nurseries.

LlynTegid · 19/10/2024 07:42

No.

DragonGypsyDoris · 19/10/2024 07:43

Of course not. If you want to complain you use the nursery's complaints procedure.

2boyzNosleep · 19/10/2024 08:23

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 19:26

Ok, maybe odsted was over reaction. But they state that they check and risk assess everything but this has been missed and it could have caused a bad injury

As I mentioned in a previous post,

Throughout this hat's journey:

The pin wasn't noticed by the person that donated the hat.

It wasn't noticed by the charity shop staff when they were handling it.

It wasn't noticed by the staff when they were handling it.

This hat may have been used a few times or hundred of times, before someone got poked with the pin.

I see that as the pin must've been really wedged into the hat for NO ONE, to have seen or felt it. Be honest OP, before this would you have even considered a pin to be in a hat?

I agree that it could've been a serious injury, but I fail to understand how it could have been prevented, when this hat would've been handled by many people before being put onto your daughters head.

TumbledTussocks · 19/10/2024 09:38

OP kindly, you haven't mentioned how and the injury was or how the nursery handled it.

Did they treat the injury, call you? Did you have to collect, did you go to hospital? What did nursery say to you? Did they volunteer a plan to ensure this isn't repeated?

Also what would you want OFSTED to do? What process would you be hoping to set off? If you think the setting is unsafe then do report it of course, but if so I'd also probably start looking for alternative childcare.

For the record, from what you've said so far, I think OFSTED is a massive over reaction. Do say if there's more to it.

The kids of frequent OTT complainers end up getting treated differently as staff become very risk averse around them and supported / managed risk taking is an important part of child development.

Bs0u416d · 19/10/2024 21:55

Jesus Christ.